CANKICKER wrote:
The probelm with most people who subscribe to the leftist propaganda and limp wristed bleeding hearts is that they themselves have never encountered one of these lowlifes like those throwing bottles, etc and therefore they feel that for some reason these people don't have the where with all to pull them selves out of the gutter and make something of their lives.Fact remains so much opportunity is given to these people and they outright piss all over it and who's stuck footing the bill, guess who ?????? Did you guess yet??? None other than the poor slobs like myself that get their ass out of bed early in the morning and come home late in the eve just so that enough taxes can be taken out of my paycheck to accomodate "SCUM" .

PEOPLE REALLY THINK THERES NOTHING WRONG WITH THIS PICTURE ????

BTW, I'm neither Mule or Elephant, because both partys have seriously failed us and continue to do so until some politician with Balls the size of Jupitor steps up to plate and starts to say it like it is and not pander to "SCUM"!!!

Thanks for allowing me to Rant.

CK

jc73 wrote:
This is not the first time an incident like this has happened in that nieghborhood, they need to sweep the entire area. Everyone needs to be involved, the police , DEA , Immigration, DYFS, State Police. They need to do repeated drug raids, all people arrested should have thier children taken from them , they should have the IRS come in an examine the tax returns for these people and sieze thier homes if they can't prove the income they are bringing in supports the life style they arre living, take thier cars, let immigration DEPORT anyone that is not legally here. I'm not just saying this about this nieghborhood in particular they should do this in all areas where there is a high drug problem. Take the money they conficate and put it to good use , use it towards supporting the now homeless children, forget about the drug rehab centers they want to kill themselves give them the option either jail or or quit and get a jog and make yourself useful to this world. If you choose jail then make them work in jail that will be productive not just sit around all day wasting my money. Why should my taxes go towards hepling people get off drugs. I am so tired of hearing about the less fortunate people of this city and how they have no opportunity to advance, they have plenty of programs out there to help them get an education, training for jobs for free, meanwhile the rest of use are putting ourselves in debt to get better educations so we can get better paying jobs. On my days off when I in the city all I see are pepople sitting around on street corners day after day, you can't tell me they are all off that day. I left the house one day and saw this group of guys, young mid 20's early 30's, sitting outside of a house I left work early that day around 4pm and saw the same gruop still sitting there this time they were all drunk. I have to be honest here I go to work everyday even when I don't feel like it, and we've all had a job in our lives that we didn't like but went to it because it was all we had and needed to pay our bills, but we did it anyway. So why can't they I've heard people say they won't work in a fastfood resturant or pump gas because it's beneath them, well when you don't have an education what do you want, h*ll at least its honest money. I've some of the worst paying jobs in the world ,I've had some of the best paying jobs in the world I tell you this me personally I have never made fun of someone for the position they hold in life as far as I am concerned as long as you are legally working you are OK in my book. So for all that are reading this do us all a favor and get off your butts and become a productive part of this society and if you can't read then ask a friend to read it to you. Everyone has something to say about the immigrants coming to this conutry and taking jobs, why complain you aren't doin them anyway, at least they are willing to work. I think we should have an exchange program take all the people of the world who want to work and be productive and bring them here, then take all the people who want to sit around all day and have things handed to them and ship them off to an island, a barren wasteland and let them fend for themselves. That will make them alittle more appreciative of what they have here.

I have a good friend of mine who came to this country as a child, couldn't speak english. Managed to learn the language,left home at the age of 14 because he didn't agree with his fathers way of thinking, his father didn't like the american culture, worked at night while he went to high school during the day, had to work two full time jobs while he was putting himself through college because he made too much money for financial aid, so he had to take out loans to pay for school. Took him seven years to get his degree. So if he could do with all things against him then so can others.

So before we get into a great debate on the social economics of the nieghborhood and they are disadvantaged and how the people there are uneducated that is why they reacted the way they did when the police showed up on a DRUG raid, lets stop and just leave it as some,not all, of the people there just don't care they don't care how they live, they just want to do whatever they want when they want and don't belive they have to be responsible for or held repsonsible for anything. Some of them believe that they shouldn't have to follow the rules because its thier nieghborhood and nobody should be able to tell them how they have to live in it. And its not just that nieghborhood, there are others just like it. Well to that I say too bad if the rest of have to follow the rules then so should you.

Thank you for your time.

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nikkiinnj wrote:
What exactly is the "rat's nest" that you're referring to and how do you plan on rooting it out?

The "rat's nest" is the open air drug market that has infested this neighborhood. These dealers and their customers/supporters are so brazen that they would attack local police with bottles.

What does one expect to find in a Jungle?These Sub-humans have no boundries regardless if your a person of authority or not.

Its the bleeding heart liberals in Gov't that have fermented this enviroment and allowed for these low-lifes to exist in this manner.

The DNC should of held their convention in the heart of this neighborhood, would love to see Michele get on her High horse and talk about how proud she really is....

What a Joke !

CK

This is kind of a waste of time, I know, but I'm going to say it anyway.

There is no question that the conditions in the neighborhood in question are bad, like unlivably bad, and that the behavior of some of the people in that neighborhood contribute to that condition, even cause it.

I do not question that there is a antisocial element that is downright dangerous. I avoid those areas myself, which pisses me off.

The other side of this argument has to do with racial and socio-economic profiling. I don't know what this particular person's problem was. From the description, it sounded like he was going for suicide by cop. Who knows what that's about.

My point is that the language we use to talk about this is significant. People who are in the process of killing each other and themselves don't need further dehumanization. It's no antidote to any ill.

OK, you're venting. But let's not pretend it's an argument of any sort. That's just weak.

jc73 wrote:
I ain't quoting his ridiculously long argument.

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nikkiinnj wrote:
What exactly is the "rat's nest" that you're referring to and how do you plan on rooting it out?

The "rat's nest" is the open air drug market that has infested this neighborhood. These dealers and their customers/supporters are so brazen that they would attack local police with bottles.

What does one expect to find in a Jungle?These Sub-humans have no boundries regardless if your a person of authority or not.

Its the bleeding heart liberals in Gov't that have fermented this enviroment and allowed for these low-lifes to exist in this manner.

The DNC should of held their convention in the heart of this neighborhood, would love to see Michele get on her High horse and talk about how proud she really is....

What a Joke !

CK

This is kind of a waste of time, I know, but I'm going to say it anyway.

There is no question that the conditions in the neighborhood in question are bad, like unlivably bad, and that the behavior of some of the people in that neighborhood contribute to that condition, even cause it.

I do not question that there is a antisocial element that is downright dangerous. I avoid those areas myself, which pisses me off.

The other side of this argument has to do with racial and socio-economic profiling. I don't know what this particular person's problem was. From the description, it sounded like he was going for suicide by cop. Who knows what that's about.

My point is that the language we use to talk about this is significant. People who are in the process of killing each other and themselves don't need further dehumanization. It's no antidote to any ill.

OK, you're venting. But let's not pretend it's an argument of any sort. That's just weak.

heights wrote:
I'm sure if you needed a cup of milk or a cup of sugar they would accomodate your unexpected needs.

bolew wrote:
Was sure OP was referring to British interns.....

CANKICKER wrote:
Its the bleeding heart liberals in Gov't that have fermented this enviroment

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nikkiinnj wrote:
What exactly is the "rat's nest" that you're referring to and how do you plan on rooting it out?

The "rat's nest" is the open air drug market that has infested this neighborhood. These dealers and their customers/supporters are so brazen that they would attack local police with bottles.

What does one expect to find in a Jungle?These Sub-humans have no boundries regardless if your a person of authority or not.

Its the bleeding heart liberals in Gov't that have fermented this enviroment and allowed for these low-lifes to exist in this manner.

The DNC should of held their convention in the heart of this neighborhood, would love to see Michele get on her High horse and talk about how proud she really is....

What a Joke !

CK

jaah37 wrote:
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nikkiinnj wrote:
What exactly is the "rat's nest" that you're referring to and how do you plan on rooting it out?

The "rat's nest" is the open air drug market that has infested this neighborhood. These dealers and their customers/supporters are so brazen that they would attack local police with bottles.

GnomeGeneral wrote:
Not people - vermin. Quit reading into shit so much. Why are white people so self loathing in Jersey City?

nikkiinnj wrote:
What exactly is the "rat's nest" that you're referring to and how do you plan on rooting it out?

nikkiinnj wrote:
What exactly is the "rat's nest" that you're referring to and how do you plan on rooting it out?

caps wrote:
on google street view, that area looks like a set right out of "the wire"