DanL wrote:
simple question - Do you support permitting restaurants/bars/coffee shops to host live entertainment as long as city noise ordinances are fairly and consistently enforced?

elsie wrote:
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jaah37 wrote:

Safe to assume you didn't like my course of action recommended in post 106?

I don't think that would be effective for two reasons:

1) They know about the trash - if they are doing anything, it's obviously not working
2) I have contacted them twice on two unrelated issues and never heard back from them

And why go to the middle man, why not just go directly to the source?

I am up for collecting trash and taking it to city hall :)

I don't blame you for moving. I love the location and I love my apartment but I'll move too before I'll clean up other people's filth every day. It's depressing seeing all this trash.

blockwatcher wrote:
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What can we do that would actually be effective?

Move. Jaah did. (Right?)

elsie wrote:
Perhaps we photograph the litter bugs and post to a web site? Would these people be ashamed to be caught littering? Might work with the pizza guy, if the first result on Google for his restaurant is his trash all over the streets, he might decide to clean it up.

I don't think it's all the residents fault though. I have lived in a lot of cities - never seen trash on the street like this. I remember reading some studies long ago about how if an area is kept clean, then the residents are more likely to keep it clean. When it's dirty, they care less and are more likely to litter.

OK, so let's think about it. Obviously there a are a lot of JC residents that are disturbed by the amount of trash on the streets. It looks like we have several causes that need to be addressed:

1) "Trashy" residents
2) Ineffective city policies
3) Lack of enforcement
4) Lack of decent sanitation department or management of sanitation dept. (includes lack of trash cans)

What can we do that would actually be effective?

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jaah wrote: ENFORCEMENT or lack thereof in Jersey City is THE biggest obstacle to a better quality of life. Laws and ordinances become meer words on a paper without politicians, police officers or govt agencies to support them.

Agreed but who is supposed to be enforcing this? JCPD? Should this really be the responsibility of the JCPD when all they have to do is put in some trash cans and empty them regularly? Obviously someone needs to pay that pizza guy a visit but what about all the other trash? This city is overrun with garbage, someone is not doing their job. The sanitation dept? Who is responsible for keeping the roads clean?

I, like a lot of other posters here, think trash cans would go a long way towards solving this problem - who is in charge of that?

blockwatcher wrote:
I've reported him numerous times -

cue Jaah on ENFORCEMENT

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Roslyn wrote:
Trash can be a very frustrating issue for some people.

In defense of the city, it is the responsibility of the store and home owners to clean up there sidewalls.

I lived in Brooklyn for many years and trash is an issue there as well, even in the nice neighborhoods like park slope.

It is not until the residents and shop owners care enough to go outside and pick up the trash that things will start to look nicer.

After living here three yeas I have already seen a difference in the amount of trash.

Sorry but the problem is a LOT BIGGER than that. And I certainly don't expect my landlord to clean up trash thrown on the side walk by people walking down Palisade.

How about the PILES of trash on Observer Highway under the overpass? Have you seen that mess? It's disgusting. Have you ever walked down Patterson Plank and taken a look at the cliffs? Trash everywhere. Who is responsible for that?

Why is it that other cities can manage to get the trash off the streets but this one can't?

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jaah37 wrote: "Ticketing would require ENFORCMENT which is something sorely lacking in Jersey City. The JCPD and JCIA refuse to make any effort when it comes to quality of life issues. Residents illegally dump household trash in public cans, the cans overflow and then they are removed. High school kids go to local pizza joints, buy food and drink and leave trash all over neighborhoods. No fines are issued, no cans replaced and people have to continually live in filth. Enforcement/cooperation is greatly needed."

OK, so how about a class action lawsuit against the city? It's not sanitary, my sinuses have been clogged since I moved to this city. How many other people are suffering from health issues because of all the garbage we have to wade though just to get home?

And when does this mayor leave? We need a new mayor, trash everywhere, buses don't run on time or pass you by when they do finally come. This city is VERY POORLY run. The mayor should be ashamed of this mess.

elsie wrote:
Ah, I see. Well it's disgusting and unsanitary. I know what you mean though. my neighbors put their household trash in those little plastic bags (instead of a proper trash bag). the squirrels get into it and then it's all over the backyard.

OK, so the city is broke - I remember seeing something about budget problems - and there is trash EVERYWHERE. Well why not start ticketing people a $100 a pop per littering incident? Make some money and clean up the streets. Problem solved.

ripple wrote:
The pricing is the reason I haven't been there a second time.

jclady wrote:
One night I saw an armed young man being chased by about six police officers at Exchange Place. They apprehended the young man safely, and this was a bunch of middle-aged guys on foot chasing a twentysomethings.

If things got rough out there, I'm sure the boys in blue would come figure it out.

Until then, I am going to walk right past on my way to the Light Rail.

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jaah37 wrote:
Drinking/open containers in public is illegal

#whitepeopleproblems.

ianmac47 wrote:
Who really cares? Are you the alcohol police? The fun police? Why does it bother you that a bunch of people were having a good time? Was it because you weren't invited? Is it because someone took away your teddy bear when you were two years old and you have trust issues? Why is it necessary to make this your business? Were these people threatening you with too much fun? Where they assaulting you and shoving a funnel down your throat forcing you to consume binge drink with them?

blockwatcher wrote:
hey pookie....

jaah, dc of jc, and myself actually know this kid.

he will be a life long offender


he doesnt live over here, and has no family in this area. he loiters in front of the barge inn gets drunk and sells drugs all day. He is a menace.

pookie2010 wrote:
Well he is still young, so basically he is not considered a Life Long Offender. The Criminal Justice system and many in our society believe he can still be rehabilitated.

I'm not defending him or excusing his behavior at all. All I'm doing is explaining how the court system works.

He will be given a shorter jail term plus fines, and parole or probation. Plus the jails are overcrowded.

Either way he is not getting off the hook, if that makes you feel any better.

blockwatcher wrote:
THANK THE LORD

This guy and his brother have been a menace to monmouth. Police are called on these two all the time for drug dealing and open container and they never show up. Glad to see JCPD actually did their job.

astrazombie wrote:
When the accident happened there was about 4 cops standing around "supervising" the sidewalk work. they just watched the accident happen.

honestly they've been doing the sidewalk in this section for about a week now and it hasn't stopped people from running the sign or started the police doing something about the people running the sign. most mornings on my way to work i stand in front of the cop that just ignores it.

rbnyfan wrote:
Jersey City already has a curfew in effect for children under the age of 18. It is rarely, if ever, enforced.

nellie wrote:
In reference to this and a few other issues in the Heights, I don't think it wouldn't necessarily be a bad idea to instate a curfew... I'm sure there would be a big uproar, but maybe it would help to impose control and order.

PathH8Tr wrote:
Anyone up for dropping off a nice letter to her residence?

tommyc_37 wrote:
Until the cops start giving a crap, Newark Avenue will remain an area where the drunks, homeless, and crackheads convene. I think daytime is worse than night time, in fact I'm sure of it.

For anybody who is about to say "move to the suburbs!" ... yes, of course things like this are part of city living, but I don't think it's common to the extent that it exists on Newark Avenue in similarly priced neighborhoods in the metro area. It's a big quality of life issue. The problem has grown because nobody is doing anything about it.

ripple wrote:
Having done some driving downtown lately (I'm 99.9% a pedestrian), the parking close to corners (let alone crosswalks) thing is totally out of control. There is no way to check for oncoming traffic at many intersections without at least partially pulling into the intersection.

It is absolutely ridiculous that Jersey City allows this situation to persist, and a lack of parking spots on the street is in no way a valid excuse for looking the other way on this issue.

Step 1: repaint the red curbs.

Step 2: recommunicate to the public exactly what the red curbs mean

Step 3: aggressive enforcement

SLyng wrote:
+1 on this thread.

I have noticed a huge up-tick in the amount of broken glass on the sidewalks while walking my dog, especially on Montgomery & York streets (near the post office).

Just curious -- if you call the non-emergency police line about this, will they write a ticket to the owner of the building? Or do they give a warning and if it's not taken care of they then write the ticket? Or is the law just never enforced?

addicted2thehood wrote:
get some ear plugs party pooper we are ging to party all the time . You will complain about this but how about the kids on lincoln between summit and milton shooting off guns and fighting and getting drugged and drunk all night u dont mind them cause i her them every night buddy.