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Re: There's a new approach for training Jersey City police recruits
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FAB has been spewing the same nonsense for quite some time. it is an uninformed opinion based on ignorance and misconceptions.

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Generalize much?

"I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it! "Quote:

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I'm hoping they don't recruit ex-military as they have be trained to be offensive and aggressive in their training, especially ex-marines and ex-army ... not so much with ex-navy or ex-air force, if they haven't been exposed to 'specialist' training.

If they do, I hope they vet them correctly to insure they understand the difference between a military service and a civil service.

I'm no fan of ex-military as frontline general police officers (there are however exceptions to my viewpoint) ... if you look at most of the negative interactions throughout the nation between police and the community, it has often been through ex-military personnel - Often the problem is when one (ex-military) has been required to follow orders without question to giving orders, and expecting the same 'blind' obedience from the general public.

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I'm hoping they don't recruit ex-military as they have be trained to be offensive and aggressive in their training, especially ex-marines and ex-army ... not so much with ex-navy or ex-air force, if they haven't been exposed to 'specialist' training.

If they do, I hope they vet them correctly to insure they understand the difference between a military service and a civil service.

I'm no fan of ex-military as frontline general police officers (there are however exceptions to my viewpoint) ... if you look at most of the negative interactions throughout the nation between police and the community, it has often been through ex-military personnel - Often the problem is when one (ex-military) has been required to follow orders without question to giving orders, and expecting the same 'blind' obedience from the general public.


Studies show that ex-military members are less likely to use force unnecessarily. That cop that was disciplined in NC for not shooting a guy was ex-Army.

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I think the new recruits should have at least 2 years of college. There are enough college graduates out there and these cops will be earning over $100,000 soon enough.

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I'm hoping they don't recruit ex-military as they have be trained to be offensive and aggressive in their training, especially ex-marines and ex-army ... not so much with ex-navy or ex-air force, if they haven't been exposed to 'specialist' training.

If they do, I hope they vet them correctly to insure they understand the difference between a military service and a civil service.

I'm no fan of ex-military as frontline general police officers (there are however exceptions to my viewpoint) ... if you look at most of the negative interactions throughout the nation between police and the community, it has often been through ex-military personnel - Often the problem is when one (ex-military) has been required to follow orders without question to giving orders, and expecting the same 'blind' obedience from the general public.

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More minorities on the force.

Qualified applicants.

Pick one.


I don't see how these two options are mutually exclusive. Care to elaborate on your statement?


Really?

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No one is saying there aren't qualified minorities, but if they have the desire and are qualified then they're already on the force.


I get you're playing Devils advocate, but this doesn't hold water. What about people that have recently moved, or are just now the age to apply?

In a perfect world someones ethnic background would not have any impact on whether or not they are considered for a position, but I know that is a fantasy in the real world.


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More minorities on the force.

Qualified applicants.

Pick one.


I don't see how these two options are mutually exclusive. Care to elaborate on your statement?


I'll do it. No one is saying there aren't qualified minorities, but if they have the desire and are qualified then they're already on the force. Instead, when you say that the priorities are "more qualified applicants" and "more minorities" then something has to give. And when you see affirmative action applied pretty much everywhere, it has meant giving on qualifications for AA applicants. Just how it is.

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More minorities on the force.

Qualified applicants.

Pick one.


hahaha.
When's the next Klan meeting?

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More minorities on the force.

Qualified applicants.

Pick one.


I don't see how these two options are mutually exclusive. Care to elaborate on your statement?

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More minorities on the force.

Qualified applicants.

Pick one.

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Fullop admitted as much last year when criticized for not having enough minority's on the police force

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The approach is to lower the standards and recruit and push through morons who should never be police.

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There's a new approach for training Jersey City police recruits

By Caitlin Mota | The Jersey Journal
on December 28, 2016 at 7:56 AM, updated December 28, 2016 at 7:57 AM

The city's police department is expected to reach more than 900 police officers by late 2017 after a class of 30 recruits began its training late last month.

When the class graduates from the academy late next year, the Jersey City Police Department is expected to have roughly 920 officers on the force. The department has not seen a force that size in two decades, officials said.

In a meeting with The Jersey Journal, Mayor Steve Fulop and Public Safety Director Jim Shea discussed how the 30 new recruits will be introduced to communities before they even enter the police academy.

Read more:  http://www.nj.com/jjournal-news/index ... ew_approach_for_trai.html


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