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The count is high as it includes seasonals (p/t summer help). IIRC the # of full timers is roughly 2,600

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Enos Jones Park with the blaring P.A.system so that some douche can pretend he's John Sterling while 8 parents watch. The fields there are then locked and neighborhood kids can't use them unless they're "connected". That time I saw an off duty fireman turn on all the lights at the baseball field so he could run laps all by himself. Don't worry though, you're paying for it.

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What is the total number of city employees?


Sheesh, it's an xls spreadsheet and it even shows the count in the left hand column. The answer is 3,336.



That means for every 10 Jersey City resident's we have a municipal employee. Wonder how it compares to other cities.


Math is not your strength. Based on the current estimate of 258K residents, the ratio of city employees to residents 1:80. Doesn't sound too bad, but I'm not well versed on how other cities stack up.

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What is the total number of city employees?


Sheesh, it's an xls spreadsheet and it even shows the count in the left hand column. The answer is 3,336.



That means for every 10 Jersey City resident's we have a municipal employee. Wonder how it compares to other cities.


Um, I think you missed a digit. I see 100:1

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What is the total number of city employees?


Sheesh, it's an xls spreadsheet and it even shows the count in the left hand column. The answer is 3,336.



That means for every 10 Jersey City resident's we have a municipal employee. Wonder how it compares to other cities.

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What is the total number of city employees?


Sheesh, it's an xls spreadsheet and it even shows the count in the left hand column. The answer is 3,336.


What did you expect, she doesn't even read the nonsense links she posts other than the title?


Soon enough.

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What is the total number of city employees?


Sheesh, it's an xls spreadsheet and it even shows the count in the left hand column. The answer is 3,336.


What did you expect, she doesn't even read the nonsense links she posts other than the title?


Everybody knows that. But so far she hasn't twisted this into a religious or parking rant or shared her homophobic views. And repeated them and repeated them...

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What is the total number of city employees?


Sheesh, it's an xls spreadsheet and it even shows the count in the left hand column. The answer is 3,336.


What did you expect, she doesn't even read the nonsense links she posts other than the title?

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Sheesh, it's an xls spreadsheet and it even shows the count in the left hand column. The answer is 3,336.

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What is the total number of city employees?

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Thanks! And what the hell here's the county payroll too, as of last week:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/41pv5p2honikrks/Hudson%20Co%2C.pdf?dl=0

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Terry, kudos

Besides penning the whole printed content of the daily Jersey Journal you're still able to pull thru with reliable stats.



*** The hockey program is great but the terrible limited public hours at the skating rink are not.






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I OPRA salaries a few times a year. Here's a link to them as of December.

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I OPRA salaries a few times a year. Here's a link to them as of December.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/3nqyqp5rjreo ... es%20Dec.%202016.xls?dl=0

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Forget about the water temperature at Pershing?! Never! And actually for the first time ever, it is consitently appropriate at about 83 degrees. Who cares if the showers have peeling paint- at least the pool can be used for its purpose now.

I don't know, I don't see a big slide in the Department. There are some things that are great- the youth hockey program. The age group swim team is in its early stage but shows promise. There are no doubt hacks but also good. Berry Lane Park is a big new asset for example.

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Good link Bill but :

List of Jersey City Public Employees with titles, hire date and salaries. The data is as of February 20, 2014




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That info was last updated for 2014.
https://data.openjerseycity.org/dataset?tags=Salary&_tags_limit=0

An interesting link to someone's analysis of the data,
http://reyale.github.io/jc_salaries.html

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That info was last updated for 2014.
https://data.openjerseycity.org/dataset?tags=Salary&_tags_limit=0

An interesting link to someone's analysis of the data,
http://reyale.github.io/jc_salaries.html

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You can get the list of employees and salaries from the Open Data portal. Or, it used to be possible. I will have to check. If not, OpenJC should have the data. Really interesting info in the XLS.



Info sure is not posted, need to file specific requests in seems.

Be some good fodder for the next mayoral run to explain who what when where and why.

Back in the day were also AdultEd classes
that were run in Ferris HS - Spanish, photography classes were offered in the evenings - be nice to see those programs offered again.





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I have to agree with the original poster - The Recreation Dept. has become a major JOKE, and has only gone downhill under Fulop's administration. Forget about the water temperature at Pershing Field Pool -- how about the showers ?? They are dirty, disgusting, with paint that has been peeling for almost a year ... and their solution has been to put up a sign asking patrons for their patience. I guess patience is needed when the same blob of hair can sit in the floor drain of the shower day after day.

Fulop should be embarrassed and finally put someone in charge who is qualified and committed. I called the Recreation Department about different matters several times and Williamson is never there. One time the person answering the call seemed puzzled as to why I was calling with a complaint about Pershing Pool -- and I actually had remind them that the Pool comes under the Dept of Recreation. Seems like they don't even want to be bothered overseeing their own facilities / programs. Word is Williamson is spending more time selling insurance (his REAL job) instead of doing what the City is paying him $117,000 for. Not sure why he spent time looking for the City's car around his neighborhood except if he forgot where he parked it or lent it to someone else??

I'll add that many cities' Recreational program include services / classes for adults as well as youths. In this "6th Borough" of New York, forget about recreational programs for adults - they are almost non-existent.

Bottom line: Get rid of the incompetents in Recreation, hire people who truly want to improve the City (not just their own pockets), and get back to the job of creating and maintaining goods programs for your all JC Residents (youths and adults).

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I don't understand why the mayor can't seem to put someone in charge of recreation who is honest and cares about the department.
First it was Ryan Strother, a total disaster who took everything good and turned it bad.
Now it is Kevin Williamson who has done nothing to improve any program. I have seen him around town doing business that certainly is not related to recreation.
It seems the entire staff is clueless.



What do you propose ?

As a kid the schools had the gymnasiums open after school and
we had access to basketball and other facilities and it was run and staffed by JC Rec. people.

. Do you really think the city needs to pay someone 117k plus benefits to do that job?



I sure do not, but he is some sort of political kiss ass.

Where is a public list of city employee salaries ?

Betcha there are tons of similar 100k favoritism jobs on the roster.




You can get the list of employees and salaries from the Open Data portal. Or, it used to be possible. I will have to check. If not, OpenJC should have the data. Really interesting info in the XLS.

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I don't understand why the mayor can't seem to put someone in charge of recreation who is honest and cares about the department.
First it was Ryan Strother, a total disaster who took everything good and turned it bad.
Now it is Kevin Williamson who has done nothing to improve any program. I have seen him around town doing business that certainly is not related to recreation.
It seems the entire staff is clueless.



What do you propose ?

As a kid the schools had the gymnasiums open after school and
we had access to basketball and other facilities and it was run and staffed by JC Rec. people.

. Do you really think the city needs to pay someone 117k plus benefits to do that job?



I sure do not, but he is some sort of political kiss ass.

Where is a public list of city employee salaries ?

Betcha there are tons of similar 100k favoritism jobs on the roster.



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I don't understand why the mayor can't seem to put someone in charge of recreation who is honest and cares about the department.
First it was Ryan Strother, a total disaster who took everything good and turned it bad.
Now it is Kevin Williamson who has done nothing to improve any program. I have seen him around town doing business that certainly is not related to recreation.
It seems the entire staff is clueless.



What do you propose ?

As a kid the schools had the gymnasiums open after school and
we had access to basketball and other facilities and it was run and staffed by JC Rec. people.

. Do you really think the city needs to pay someone 117k plus benefits to do that job?

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So what was so pressing in this Rec Director schedule that it took him 5 hours to report that a city SUV parked in front of his house on Sussex Street was stolen?

Are there no guidelines for these people to follow when an incident happens with a city vehicle?

You would think that @ 8:01, after finding the SUV missing @ 8:00am, he would be on his city phone calling the Police?

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Jersey City rec director takes city car home and it's stolen

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JERSEY CITY -- The city's recreation director is in hot water after the city vehicle he uses was stolen outside his Sussex Street home.

Kevin Williamson, hired in November 2015, told police he parked his city Ford Explorer on Sussex Street on Monday, Jan. 23 at about 9 p.m. and when he returned at 8 a.m. the next day it was gone, according to a police report.

http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/20 ... _city_car_home_and_i.html


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This is a serious topic. Has anyone ever went to sign up for anything at the office at Caven Point?

I am not typically judgmental but as a life long resident of Jersey City the lack of shit giving actually scared me and I have been shot at.

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Slap some solar panels and small wind turbine on the roof to help mitigate the cost of heating the pool. City hall could lead the way of being sustainable and environmental friendly!

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Dear Leo168:

1. There are accepted guidlines for lap pools. Temperatures should be between 78 and 82. See prior post that give cites to AMerican Red Cross, FINA, NCAA, etc.

2. There has never been a Jersey City Age Group Team. The Pirranhas has been around. But that is a summer swim team that had periodic winter practices. It was not part of USA Swimming and the practice schedule did not allow the development of swimmers. The only meets were intra club. There have been Age Group Teams around,e.g. Stevens Sharks (until Stevens closed it). Muhommad runs a team called Scarlet out of various different pools. He does a great job I think. It has never been based at Pershing though he does get some time there from time to time.

3. Yes, there was a Masters Team when Schundler was mayor. Not since that I know of. Anyway, its not possible now unless they lower the water temp.

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Lowering the water temperature to acceptable levels for whom?
There has always been an age group team.
Masters Swim at Pershing Field is old news, not new. I used to swim in a masters program at Pershing Pool years ago.

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I honestly had no idea the city even had a recreation department, but then again I don't have kids, so that might be part of it. I just grab my bike, running shoes, ball, frisbee, camera, fishing pole or a bag lunch and had outdoors to the nearest open space and do my thing. As long as the city has available open space, isn't that all you need? Sorry, not trying to be critical, maybe this has more to do with organized youth sports or access to specific facilities? I always find myself with plenty of things to do around town, it's just my responsibility to provide my own tools.

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Well it is seems Rosemarie and Jaime are trying to convert Pershing Field pool from a hot tub for arthritics and infants to the fitness facility it is built for by

1. lowering the water temperature to acceptable levels;
2. Starting an age group team for the kids;
3. Starting a Masters Swim team for adults.

My sense is they are working against a small but entrenched interest group that is hooked into the mayor's office or the director's office.

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I don't understand why the mayor can't seem to put someone in charge of recreation who is honest and cares about the department.
First it was Ryan Strother, a total disaster who took everything good and turned it bad.
Now it is Kevin Williamson who has done nothing to improve any program. I have seen him around town doing business that certainly is not related to recreation.
It seems the entire staff is clueless.



What do you propose ?

As a kid the schools had the gymnasiums open after school and
we had access to basketball and other facilities and it was run and staffed by JC Rec. people.


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