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Re: N.J. city shuts down burlesque show, citing obscenity laws
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He is NOT Councilman Solomon.

And this hoopla seems pretty orchestrated, but to what end? Does the mayor wish to distract from bad news, does he want to ride to the rescue and save the day? I guess we'll see.

The corporate council is appointed and reports to the mayor, serving at his/her pleasure. He would not go in a different direction publicly.

I do feel bad for both the performer and bar to be placed under pressure and the spotlight. Hopefully, they will eventually benefit from the publicity.


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Hey JCVoter, you're that Solomon guy right? Please do something about it now that you have the power.

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No.
If I supported Solomon it was because I was against the naked attempt by monied interests to install a councilperson in Ward E.
If I had the undue power to influence Solomon I would not exercise it and would be the first to protest if I thought he was unduly influenced.

He's your councilman, you call him. Our power is equal.

My main point here is that this letter was written in haste and delivered at leisure. It had nothing to do with obscenity and everything to do with damaging FM amid a fragile transition.
How has Lillian managed to escape censure thus far? Why now?




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Hey JCVoter, you're that Solomon guy right? Please do something about it now that you have the power.

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Additionally, the following is quoted in the letter yet appears nowhere in the municipal code.

"any display of a specified anatomical area contained in a live performance which by means of posing emits sensuality with sufficient impact to concentrate prurient interest on the area or activity"

Actual ordinance below.

ยง 251-4. - Definitions.
As used in this article, the following terms shall have the meanings indicated:

OBSCENE FILM - Any motion picture film or preview or trailer to a film, not including newsreels portraying actual current events or pictorial news of the day, in which a scene, taken by itself:

A. Depicts a specified anatomical area or specified sexual activity or the simulation of a specified sexual activity or verbalization concerning a specified sexual activity; and B. Emits sensuality sufficient, in terms of the duration and impact of the depiction, to appeal to prurient interest.
OBSCENE MATERIAL - Any description, narrative account, display or depiction of a specified anatomical area or specified sexual activity contained in or consisting of a picture or other representation, publication, sound recording, live performance or film, which by means of posing, composition, format or animated sensual details emits sensuality with sufficient impact to concentrate prurient interest on the area or activity.

SPECIFIED ANATOMICAL AREA:

A. Less than completely and opaquely covered human genitals, pubic region, buttock or female breasts below a point immediately above the top of the areola; or B. Human male genitals in a discernibly turgid state, even if covered.
SPECIFIED SEXUAL ACTIVITY:

A. Human genitals in a state of sexual stimulation or arousal. B. Any act of human masturbation, sexual intercourse or deviate sexual intercourse. C. Fondling or other erotic touching of covered or uncovered human genitals, pubic region, buttock or female breast.

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There's something very odd about the letter that FM received.

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"Chapter 157.3 prohibits obscene entertainment."

Incorrect. Chapter 157.3 deals with license requirements and makes no reference to obscenity.

https://library.municode.com/nj/jersey ... 12-0019-11-2013ORNO13-081

The correct ordinance is 157.1(3)

"Obscene material is defined under Chapter 257.4 as..."

Again incorrect chapter 257.4 deals with the disclosure of the presence of lead based paints.

https://library.municode.com/nj/jersey ... 57PRTR_S257-4DIPOPRLESEPA

The correct ordinance is 251.4

Of note here is that the letter is signed by James M. LaBianca and only in Jeremy Farrell's name.


The letter was written and dated the 26th but hand delivered on the 27th. The show was planned for the 28th, why hang on to the letter for a day if it wasn't to proofread? It's almost like they held on to the letter to minimize FM's ability to respond either legally or by giving patrons notice of cancellation.
Maximum damage to a small business.

We have to remember where we are. No ordinary tax-paying resident would be able to have a show in a bar shut down with two days notice. The person behind this was politically connected and the target was Alan Rudolph and FM, not Lillian Bustle.

Despite the cancellation Jersey City remains dirty.










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seriously. i think his(?) 2nd comment was more uncalled for, but stillinjc's first comment was fairly innocuous.

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Would you really want to see Lillian Bustle naked? Seems like city attorneys are doing us a favor. ;)



you are a disgusting trash bag and an Idiot. So uncalled for.


My god you people are overly sensitive. She's a big girl and it's a very niche crowd who would want to see her strip down.

And, it was a pretty light joke (and this story is just ASKING for jokes). Trust me, I and others can probably do way worse.

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wow, one would think city attorneys have better things to do with their time...sorta of reminds of when Toronto wanted to bust Madonna for her "indecent" gestures

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Would you really want to see Lillian Bustle naked? Seems like city attorneys are doing us a favor. ;)



you are a disgusting trash bag and an Idiot. So uncalled for.


I see where you are coming from. Some folks are into chubsters. I apologize. I will be much more sensitive in my future postings.

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Well then. I guess a good old fashioned heterosexual strip joint with beautiful women entertaining straight men will be just as welcome on Newark Ave.


Heck... see more skin on Newark Ave any summer Friday night after the bars close.

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Well then. I guess a good old fashioned heterosexual strip joint with beautiful women entertaining straight men will be just as welcome on Newark Ave.

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Only 240 lbs according TedX and no peeps were harmed during their lap dance....

The Horror, The Horror !!!




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Would you really want to see Lillian Bustle naked? Seems like city attorneys are doing us a favor. ;)


Wow, JCList comments are even trashier than the nj.com ones. Great job, everyone

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Amazing... Banned in Jersey City! What a great marketing campaign.

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Would you really want to see Lillian Bustle naked? Seems like city attorneys are doing us a favor. ;)


yes, actually. I would.
now post some pics of yourself in a g-string, and let us vote.


Ya'll see them post haste right after I start my own burlesque show.


says the brave keyboard warrior

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yes, actually. I would.
now post some pics of yourself in a g-string, and let us vote.


Ya'll see them post haste right after I start my own burlesque show.

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you are a disgusting trash bag and an Idiot. So uncalled for.

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yes, actually. I would.
now post some pics of yourself in a g-string, and let us vote.

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Would you really want to see Lillian Bustle naked? Seems like city attorneys are doing us a favor. ;)

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N.J. city shuts down burlesque show, citing obscenity laws

Turns out, in Jersey City a bump 'n' grind can get you fined.

City attorneys effectively shut down a burlesque show planned for Wednesday night after telling the owners of Newark Avenue bar FM that they might get hit with a penalty for violating local obscenity laws.

Lillian Bustle, who would have starred in the performance, said she's mystified. The burlesque queen has produced and starred in 19 burlesque shows at various Downtown Jersey City venues since 2012.

Bustle said she and her fellow performers generally strip down to pasties and G-strings. If there is the occasional flash of a bit more, she said, what's the difference?

http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/20 ... ue_show_citing_obsce.html


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