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Third Street Hats, no need to emulate your favorite news sources and spread lies.

The meeting was pitched as being an opportunity to provide Trump's son with incriminating documents that the Russian government had on Hillary pertaining to her dealings with Russia. Presumably this went back to her time as Secretary of State. There was never any mention (or even a hint) that the incriminating Hillary docs resulted from a hack of the DNC's server, the same one they refused to allow our government to inspect.

Nothing wrong with meeting with anyone who can provide you with truthful dirt on your political opponents. Like the rest of the RUSSIA!!! hysteria, this is going nowhere.

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I agree. I doubt much, if anything, will come of this. It's just more proof that you can't trust a politician. Even a brand new one.

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Swing and miss. You're 0 for 3 today man.

Hardly,
Infact I bet nothing comes of this.

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Swing and miss. You're 0 for 3 today man.

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Oh I see! Everything a Republican does is considered illegal until proven otherwise. Everything a Democrat does is a Nothing burger

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'Played' by Russia? Exactly how? No one has proven that it was the Rooskies that exposed the DNC trying to screw Bernie-and if they had, all it did was expose the DNC colluding with the media to screw Bernie. Gee, and maybe ask yourself why the DNC refused to let Obama's FBI to check their server out? What more was hidden that they didn't want the FBI to find?

The only one 'played' by Russia was Obama, he did nothing to stop Russia interfering except to whine to Putin 'knock it off'. Like Putin would be frightened by that?

Besides, was Obama the one who said that Russia couldn't influence the election anyway?



Deflect deflect deflect, is that all you can do now? You answer questions with questions. I can admit the DNC is a majorly fucked up organization. Personally, I was not the biggest fan of Hillary, but at least we know she had some experience in government.

You got played by Russia because it didn't matter to Russia who was running against Hillary. They would have most likely done the same thing with anyone else that was on the GOP ticket. It wasn't so much of a pro-Trump campaign from Russia, but an anti-Hillary campaign. Yes, nobody can prove with 100% certainty that it was the Russians behind everything, but if it walks like a duck, looks like a duck, and sounds like a duck...it's probably a duck.

Did it ever dawn on you that Obama had to carefully consider how he handled the hacking after he found out? That maybe he needed to be very delicate to avoid the appearance of helping Hillary to win the election? If he had done more and Hillary won, you would be the first person on here talking about how Obama colluded with Hillary to help her win.

It wouldn't have been the first time Obama was wrong about something, but at least he can admit when he is wrong.

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President Obama threatened GB if they voted in favor of Brexit.

You mean by saying that negotiating a new US/UK specific trade deal would not be a top priority.

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President Obama sent an election swat team to Israel to knock Bibi out.

You mean Obama's State Department awarded $350k in grants to NGO OneVoice to be used towards brokering peace in Israel/Palestine through Nov 14. And that because the State Dept failed to properly account for rules on unused funds once the term period of the grant was met, OneVoice funneled those funds to an anti-Netanyahu campaign.

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President Obama openly supported the new French PM Macron in his election.

Unusual, sure. Far from illegal for a former president to endorse a foreign candidate.

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And some are getting their panties in a twist about Rooskies having a favorite in our election, and trying to involve themselves to get the outcome they want? It's positively Obama-esque!


No, some are 'getting their panties in a twist' about the son, son-in-law and campaign manager of a major party candidate knowingly taking a meeting with a Russian government lawyer regarding documents obtained by the Russian government hacking the U.S.

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'Played' by Russia? Exactly how? No one has proven that it was the Rooskies that exposed the DNC trying to screw Bernie-and if they had, all it did was expose the DNC colluding with the media to screw Bernie. Gee, and maybe ask yourself why the DNC refused to let Obama's FBI to check their server out? What more was hidden that they didn't want the FBI to find?

The only one 'played' by Russia was Obama, he did nothing to stop Russia interfering except to whine to Putin 'knock it off'. Like Putin would be frightened by that?

Besides, was Obama the one who said that Russia couldn't influence the election anyway?

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President Obama threatened GB if they voted in favor of Brexit. President Obama sent an election swat team to Israel to knock Bibi out. President Obama openly supported the new French PM Macron in his election.

And some are getting their panties in a twist about Rooskies having a favorite in our election, and trying to involve themselves to get the outcome they want? It's positively Obama-esque!


At the end of the day none of that matters though since Obama is not our President anymore. The time for making a stink about those things has passed. Just admit it. You got played by Russia. Why are you trying to defend this so much?

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I'm surprised you didn't say President Obama tried to kidnap a baby while you're at it with your fake crap. In the meantime, President Trump is getting hosed by his own idiot son's emails. No one really to blame here but themselves.

The Russians may have had an agenda but Trump Jr. took the meeting. End of story.

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President Obama threatened GB if they voted in favor of Brexit. President Obama sent an election swat team to Israel to knock Bibi out. President Obama openly supported the new French PM Macron in his election.

And some are getting their panties in a twist about Rooskies having a favorite in our election, and trying to involve themselves to get the outcome they want? It's positively Obama-esque!

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On top of this, is the lying about the whole thing. Usually it is the coverup that destroys you. This will have consequences if the FBI is somehow been lied to about this. We already know both Junior and Manafort basically lied on TV about this, with lots of fake outrage to boot. Too many lies getting caught about the Russians. What are Trumpsters trying to hide? If it's really nothing then stop lying about it!

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You must be hungry Monroe, lot's of burger related words. The meeting didn't have to influence anything. The meeting itself was the criminal act. The act of conspiring with a foreign adversary.

All of a sudden you want to brush off meetings as just meetings, but when it's with the AG on a tarmac it's a big deal, right?

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How did this nothingburger of a meeting influence the election? In fact, it wasted Don Jrs time when he could have been doing something more useful, although it was worth taking the meeting in chance they had something good-like Hillary's 30,000 emails she destroyed. Had the Rooskies provided those, and they showed 'pay for play' when Hillary ran state and her crooked Foundation, wouldn't that have been a good thing? You know, getting the facts out and all.

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Again? What is illegal about a meeting?


If it was a meeting about adopting Russian babies then there would be no problem, but conspiring with a foreign adversary to influence or undermine an election is a crime, and Don Jr. pretty much admitted it himself when he posted his emails.

I'll say it again, but I don't think Trump Sr. has the forethought to plan something like this out. The more facts that come out about this, the more it proves Russia was involved in influencing our election. I don't think they wanted Trump to win, as much as they wanted Hillary to lose. It could have been anyone on the GOP ticket and I think it would have gone down in a similar way.

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Again? What is illegal about a meeting?

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Cracks me up when WaPo writes an opinion piece like it's factual!

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How sweet would it be if Donny boy was undone by emails? I can almost taste the tears from Trump supporters now. Sooooo tasty.....

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Donald Trump Jr crossed the legal line on collusion with Russia

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/th ... -legal-line-on-collusion/

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If by making deals with terrorists means "extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples" then okay.

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Im talking about Obama's Nobel Peace prize

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The thread title should be changed to "Trump: The Illegtimate President"

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Collusion with Russians=Bad! Collusion with Terrorists = Nobel Peace prize!


What the hell are you even talking about?

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Yeah, except one is on the level of trying to prove 9/11 was an inside job and the other was trying to, and successfully, influence an election in a foreign country.


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Donald Trump Jr *literally* posted his emails online which admit to collusion. This isn't up for debate anymore. The evidence is right there for everyone to see.

On top of that, the illegitimate president stated yesterday that he did NOT talk about sanctions with Putin during their meeting. Today, Huckabee-Sanders stated that he did.

It's fine and dandy if you want to say that you support a conservative agenda. It is a wholly different matter to support a man that has colluded with foreign governments that wish harm on Americans in order to steal an election.

Congratulations! Trump supporters are now officially supporting a traitor!


Trumps son took a meeting and while Jr and Sr were private citizens. Where is the crime? The Russian's actions are basically the same tatics activest James Okeefe uses. The left usually has a problem with this

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Donald Trump Jr *literally* posted his emails online which admit to collusion. This isn't up for debate anymore. The evidence is right there for everyone to see.

On top of that, the illegitimate president stated yesterday that he did NOT talk about sanctions with Putin during their meeting. Today, Huckabee-Sanders stated that he did.

It's fine and dandy if you want to say that you support a conservative agenda. It is a wholly different matter to support a man that has colluded with foreign governments that wish harm on Americans in order to steal an election.

Congratulations! Trump supporters are now officially supporting a traitor!

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What collusion? Why wouldn't a member of the Trump campaign meet with any foreign national (British, Brazilian, Japanese) who said they had incriminating intel on crooked Hillary? In any case, the meeting lasted 20 minutes, and it was about Russian/American adoption issues. Another mouseburger of a story.


FAKE NEWS. Don Jr. knew exactly what the meeting was about, and he knew where the info was coming from.


Collusion with Russians=Bad! Collusion with Terrorists = Nobel Peace prize!

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What collusion? Why wouldn't a member of the Trump campaign meet with any foreign national (British, Brazilian, Japanese) who said they had incriminating intel on crooked Hillary? In any case, the meeting lasted 20 minutes, and it was about Russian/American adoption issues. Another mouseburger of a story.


FAKE NEWS. Don Jr. knew exactly what the meeting was about, and he knew where the info was coming from.

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Even if there is no evidence yet, we are certainly heading there. After lying about not having met with the Russians, we now have proof of a meeting. If they were stupid enough to take one meeting, I'm sure the Russians didn't stop there.

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Donald Trump has routinely demonstrated himself to be an uneducated buffoon. He didn't collude because he doesn't know what the word means. However, his kids certainly were willing to commit the crime. That has now been proven as a fact.

Ultimately, due to the illegal behavior of Trump's team, nobody can really state that he won "fairly." The influence that Russia played on the election bares out that the man isn't holding the position legitimately.

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