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I'm confused. The subject says "waste transfer" and talked about some future deal. Ok, anyway, where do you want those cars to go instead?
Posted on: 2015/3/29 2:53
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This isn't just about garbage. Right now we are seeing 80 tank cars with flammable placards going by on one train. It is the noise, pollution, the threat of derailment and explosions. Houses, and the Turnpike are only feet away.
Posted on: 2015/3/28 2:21
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Can some clarify - right now that same garbage comes through Jersey City on trucks, correct? It isn't as much an addition of garbage as the change in how it's transported, right?
Posted on: 2015/3/28 0:51
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well, if the port authority iswilling to help pay for a rail tunnel into manhattan. why not. mybe they could use existing path tracks at wtcc as new station
Posted on: 2015/3/26 2:07
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Posted on: 2015/3/26 1:39
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Posted on: 2015/3/4 2:41
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Jersey City residents speak out against Port Authority's Cross Harbor Freight proposalsBy JERSEY CITY - To say the residents of Greenville are opposed to the Port Authority's Cross Harbor Freight Program would be an understatement. Thursday night, representatives from the bi-state agency held a community meeting at the Mary McLeod Bethune Life Center to receive feedback from residents on the environmental impact of their cross harbor freight movement plans -- many of which involve concentrating freight movement through the Greenville rail yards. The Cross Harbor Freight Program seeks to improve the movement of freight across New York Harbor between the east-of-Hudson and west-of-Hudson regions, and reduce the truck traffic on roadways. In doing so, the Port Authority has laid out 11 options -- 10 of which involve building infrastructure like a tunnel or a barge. While officials say these alternatives will reduce traffic and pollution in New Jersey by mostly concentrating the freight movement in Greenville, they say it will also have a "severe" environmental effect on the Jersey City neighborhood. "This project must be abandoned by the Port Authority," said Greenville resident Frank Falcicchio. "Your environmental report stinks. This will be detrimental to the welfare of the people who live in this area." Read more: http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/20 ... y_oppose_port_author.html
Posted on: 2015/3/3 20:36
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The $10m garbage contract is an entirely separate deal to the $10b tunnel, and not necessarily linked.
Posted on: 2015/1/26 21:29
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The tunnel would still bring the garbage to Greenville. The company with the contract to pick up NYC garbage is located in Linden. Put the garbage on trains in NYC and barge it to Linden
Please come to the meeting Tuesday, February 10, 2015 ? 4:00 p.m. to 8:00 p.m. Mary McLeod Bethune Life Center 140 Martin Luther King Jr. Drive ? Jersey City, NJ 07305 call 212-435-7777 to be put on the speakers list
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Today's Jersey Journal has an article about a tunnel from
Brooklyn to Greenville. Barges- Tunnel the bottom line is the garbage will go through Greenville. The Meeting at Bethune should be on South Greenville's turf, since SG residents quality of life is at risk. We understood it was to be at P.S. # 30 school. This meeting is very important!!!
Posted on: 2015/1/26 20:51
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$10b freight train tunnel from brooklyn to jc?
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That's exactly what the meeting is about. The title of this thread is misleading and frankly old news. http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2015 ... t_tunnel_proposed_fr.html
Posted on: 2015/1/26 20:42
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Please come to the meeting
Tuesday, February 10, 2015 ? 4:00 p.m. to 8:00 p.m. Mary McLeod Bethune Life Center 140 Martin Luther King Jr. Drive ? Jersey City, NJ 07305
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JC is too densely populated for a garbage transfer station. It will reduce property values because any garbage transfer station will bring an unpleasant smell.
Posted on: 2015/1/26 20:29
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what happened to the idea of freight train tunnel from brooklyn to jc
Posted on: 2015/1/26 20:26
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Cross Harbor Freight Program
PUBLIC HEARING NOTICE The Federal Highway Administration (FHWA) and the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey (PANYNJ) have released a NEPA Tier 1 Draft Environmental Impact Statement (DEIS) to evaluate alternatives to improve the movement of goods in the region by enhancing the transportation of freight across New York Harbor. The Cross Harbor Freight Program (CHFP) DEIS evaluates both near?term and long?term improvementsto the regional freight network. Public Hearings provide an opportunity for the public and agencies to comment on and provide input on the DEIS. Public Hearings for the CHFP will be held at the New Jersey locations listed below:?? Tuesday, February 10, 2015 ? 4:00 p.m. to 8:00 p.m. Mary McLeod Bethune Life Center 140 Martin Luther King Jr. Drive ? Jersey City, NJ 07305 The DEIS is available to download at www.crossharborstudy.com. Hardcopies are located at numerous repositories throughout the region. A complete list of repositories can be found on the project website.??? Your comments are encouraged and may be provided in writing either at the public hearing or by mail to Cross Harbor Freight Program, c/o InGroup, Inc., PO Box 206 Midland Park, NJ 07432 or via email to feedback@crossharborstudy.com.??The public comment period will remain open until 5:00 p.m. on February 27, 2015. All public hearing dates, times and locations are subject to change due to inclement weather conditions. An informational recording regarding any change in the hearing schedule will be available at (201) 820?2170 at least two hours before the scheduled start time of the hearing.??? The public hearings are accessible to people who are mobility impaired. Sign language interpreter services or other translation services are available, upon advance request. To make arrangements for such services, please contact the Port Authority?s outreach consultant at (201) 612?1230 or via email at feedback@crossharborstudy.com no later than three (3) days before the hearing for which the services are being requested.?? For more information about the Cross Harbor Freight Program or to download a copy of the DEIS document, please visit the project website at www.crossharborstudy.com.
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Please be aware that there is a meeting scheduled for February 10th at the Bethune Center, on MLK, regarding the garbage transfer station for the Greenville Yards.
This is a NY/NJPA meeting to inform you that the transfer station is going ahead. If this transfer station happens your property values will be negatively impacted. The quality of life of South Greenville will be affected. THIS IS SERIOUS This is the THIRD attempt to use the Greenville Yards as a garbage transfer station. During the first attempt in 1993, Mayor Schundler supported the garbage transfer station, but the Jersey City Council opposed the project. It did not happen. In 1999 the Port Authority attempted to get Mayor Healy to support the project. He refused to allow the project to move forward. Now in 2014, Mayor Fulop supported the transfer station in return for $10M for a park in the Heights. The Mayor did reverse his position. BUT, the meeting to discuss the garbage transfer station is scheduled. WHY? All residents of Greenville, Port Liberte, Society Hill, all Jersey City must get Mayor Fulop AND the City Council to stop the NYC garbage transfer station to be built in the Greenville Yards. PLEASE DON'T ABANDON THIS EFFORT! http://www.panynj.gov/about/public-he ... tingNotice_ENGLISH_v2.pdf Tuesday, February 10, 2015 ? 4:00 p.m. to 8:00 p.m. Mary McLeod Bethune Life Center 140 Martin Luther King Jr. Drive ? Jersey City, NJ 07305 http://hudsoncountyview.com/emails-fu ... -garbage-greenville-deal/ Emails from Fulop, PANYNJ raises questions about ?Garbage for Greenville? deal November 20, 2014 - Jersey City, News - Written by Michael Shurin - no comments Emails and documents related to the building of a waste transfer facility in Greenville raises unanswered questions from Jersey City Mayor Steven Fulop and the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey. New emails and documents related to the building of a waste transfer facility in Greenville, a project that Mayor Fulop later halted, raise fresh questions about the process behind the scenes of a resolution approving the ?execution of a memorandum of understanding [MOU] with IESI NY Corporation as the basis for a future host community agreement.? The most serious question centers around the difference between a letter to the NYC Dept. of Sanitation attached to the City Council agenda, and the actual letter sent. In the official letter dated October 6, 2014 ? which was obtained through a public records request ? Fulop writes about ?expected council support? which was not in the letter attached to the council agenda. Additionally, there is a difference in language regarding the MOU. In the actual letter sent it says, ?reached an agreement? and in the council agenda it says ?executed a letter agreement.?
Posted on: 2015/1/26 19:23
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If you are near any tracks used by freight trains it is a possibility the route can change.
This will come up again.
Posted on: 2014/11/21 3:11
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Quote:it's like if fulop is so anxious to be governor, he should think better about the optics of his actions imo!
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Posted on: 2014/11/20 23:06
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I have only seen them on the Turnpike. Big dump trucks, covered with filthy tarps. Says Solid Municipal Waste on them and they stink to high heaven. I have also seen NYC sanitation trucks in JC , those that do curbside pickups. Don't know what routes they take.
Posted on: 2014/10/17 22:19
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What streets are these trucks driving through?
There is a difference between one truck at a time, and a whole train load.
Posted on: 2014/10/17 19:44
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I doubt it because these are individual trucks. They do stink like hell if you happen to drive behind one, though.
Posted on: 2014/10/17 17:42
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If 1. is correct and the garbage is currently transiting though JC in unsealed trucks are there any complaints about the smell from anyone who live on or near the routes?
Posted on: 2014/10/17 17:20
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Its entirely possible that the trash will be loaded onto freight rail cars elsewhere and still carried through Greenville on the rail tracks, but now without a payment to the city.
Eventually of course the plan is to connect those tracks to Brooklyn with a the Port Authority's trans-hudson freight tunnel, but thats probably decades away.
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I'll advise you to read the articles I and others quoted that clearly show that those "sealed" containers stink enough to cause great nuisance and numerous complaints from neighboring communities. Probably don't help the property values either. Like to play fast and loose with other people's quality of life and equity in their homes?
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I'll advise you to read Brewster's many posts in this thread on this very topic as he took the time to actually research whether or not the area "would smell like a garbage dump." Unless you have any actual information that would backup this assertion, you're clearly speaking on an opinion about what you believe would happen based on absolutely no evidence what-so-ever. As to the rest, we all know that this deal was killed by Sweeney as a political move. He cares exceptionally little for anyone but himself.
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Because throwing terms around like "No Trash Train!" and "Dumping on Greenville!" makes for good copy. And because leaders of neighborhood groups, to remain leaders, have to make it look like they are standing up for the neighborhood, even if what they advocate makes them worse off.
I felt that it was wrong for the city to do this when Gajewski was out of town (although the cynic in me suspects that the councilman was hoping he could avoid a vote). And if the Port Authority has ultimate control over this, then why is the City trying to pass a resolution that wouldn't be effective? Still, the substance of the deal was pretty good. An income stream for the city, good blue collar jobs, taking garbage trucks off the roads. I suspect that if the Greenville Yards, were instead called "the New York Bay Rail Barge Station" that some people would not even have batted an eye.
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So what is the real reason for stopping this if the garbage is already coming through JC? Why not get paid for it and get it off the streets? Is the amount offered too low?
The only issue I would have is if I were a Greenville resident I would wonder why the $10M would not go to fund something in the neighborhood.
Posted on: 2014/10/17 15:33
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If this garbage is already coming through that area, I doubt the residents would have been so up in arms about it. The whole point was that the plan that Fulop shoved through would have made the area smell like a garbage dump, as all the linked articles demonstrated. Luckily Sweeney and the Port Authority showed they were more concerned with the welfare of JC residents than Fulop himself.
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