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I believe Van Leer is the area by 18th & Coles, where a chocolate factory once stood. As for AMo, you can't expect everyone to recall every detail of every thread, even if they read it. This is not a "true names" site, no one should be called out for anonymity, though civility would be nice (excepting extreme provocations like mealymouthed hypocrisy).
Posted on: 2017/12/14 16:46
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Going by the document, it looks like the increases in DTJC are anywhere from mid 50% to 75%, with the sole exception of the Van Leer neighborhood (WTF is that?) which is expected to go up by only 41%. Interesting... I expected DT to get even higher increases. But, overall, the picture is bleak for the administration in terms of optics. Just as had been argued and pointed out multiple times prior to the reval, the current tax situation was a reverse Robin Hood scenario, and the numbers are damning. EVERY neighborhood outside of DTJC is going to see reductions, some quite substantial, with five rare exceptions, expected to have minor increases, three of which are under 5%. And, it seems like they are expecting the tax rate to come out at about 1.62%. While that is welcome news for the DTJC homeowners, it is likely bad overall for the city, as pressure is likely to increase to force JC to take on a larger share of the local school budget if the property tax rate is so low compared to other NJ towns. At 2%, the city could argue that anything higher was a huge burden on residents, but at 1.6%, I believe that would be one of the absolute lowest property tax rates in the state (outside of Cape May county) and makes us a target for increased pressure.
Posted on: 2017/12/14 16:37
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http://www.cityofjerseycity.com/RevaluationUpdate
if you click "1-4 family neighborhood analysis" on the bottom of the page, it opens a PDF with average tax increases by neighborhood. Downtown JC taxes are looking to go up by 50% (unless I'm misinterpreting the table). But...tell me again how the housing prices won't be affected by this?
Posted on: 2017/12/14 15:55
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Huh? He has publicly identified himself in other threads, particularly the one about the pedestrian plaza, the one about the "food trucks wars" and the one about the chain businesses ordinance.
Posted on: 2017/12/14 11:39
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You seem pretty anonymous to me, AMo. Plenty of people know who I am, but I can't claim to not be anonymous here.
Posted on: 2017/12/14 1:45
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Spoken like a true minion and ally of Yvonne. Deflect, change the subject, run away from your actual words and actions and pretend you're taking some sort of moral high ground.
Posted on: 2017/12/13 18:10
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So what I don't do is respond to attacks from people too cowardly to identify themselves.
Posted on: 2017/12/13 1:34
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And Comrade, you are true progressive. Except when throw foodtruck folk under bus, or endorsing candidate for Ward E with close ties to developers. In the end maybe all about what is best for selling pizza?
Posted on: 2017/12/9 15:05
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The cost of the Mayor's purely political delay (the court called his claims "frivolous) is actually closer to five million dollars if you add the 1.2 million more charged by the second company. During the four years of this political stunt, a good part of the city (mostly the poorer parts) were over-taxed. That's what I call moving Jersey City forward. A true progressive.
Posted on: 2017/12/8 17:35
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For all your howling about tax unfairness for decades you still have no idea how it works. Of course she can only get a break on the owner occupied portion, THATS HOW PROPERTY TAXES WORK!! The rentals are a business, and should be treated as such. Makes me wonder if this person files their "form E" taxes properly at all.
Posted on: 2017/12/7 21:57
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The senior tax freeze does not benefit Jersey City homeowners, I had a next door neighbor who only had Social Security but she had two rentals in her building. The state requires a portion of the senior freeze or in her case one third. Her income with her rentals was probably $50,000 a year. Seniors in the suburban living in one family homes with a higher income receive the full tax freeze. Then the income was $75,000, it is probably higher now.
Posted on: 2017/12/7 20:52
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The last paragraph in the linked article should be cause for concern. The city administration needs to get this reval completed and implemented and be done with it. The ongoing uncertainty is unfair to homeowners, as well as potential sellers and buyers.
Posted on: 2017/12/7 20:49
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Final tab for canceled Jersey City reval is $3.8M Updated 12:36 PM; Posted 11:55 AM By Terrence T. McDonald tmcdonald@jjournal.com The Jersey Journal JERSEY CITY -- The final tab for the property revaluation Jersey City halted in 2013, plus the city's legal fight to break its contract with the company conducting the long-delayed reval, is $3,784,198. The amount became official last week when Jersey City finally issued payments to Realty Appraisal Co., the West New York firm hired to conduct the aborted 2011 reval. A judge in April 2016 ordered the city to pay the company, but the city appealed, lost the appeal and in September the New Jersey Supreme Court said it would not hear the case. http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/20 ... m.html#incart_2box_hudson
Posted on: 2017/12/7 17:58
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Every senior property owner should be filing for the Senior Freeze (Property Tax Reimbursement) Program and the city should be providing some assistance. Even if one currently does not meet the income or other requirements, it is important to establish ones' base year. Jersey City is not exempt because of PILOTs.
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Posted on: 2017/12/7 17:45
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It doesn't look that bad. Over 65, NJ resident for 10 years, paid your property taxes, meet income limits, no 2nd homes etc. Is JC exempt because of PILOT?
Posted on: 2017/12/7 15:43
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Posted on: 2017/12/7 14:21
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There are lots of hoops you have to jump through and you don't get any relief until many years have passed. http://www.state.nj.us/treasury/taxation/ptr/eligibility.shtml
Posted on: 2017/12/7 0:27
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Does anyone know how NJ's property tax relief programs will impact the reval costs?
I know there is some sort of income-based rebate and a "senior freeze," but I don't know how that might impact some bills or rebates.
Posted on: 2017/12/6 23:17
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You seem to have a misconception on how taxes work. You can always itemize but if it's total is below the standard deduction then you take the standard deduction.
Posted on: 2017/12/6 19:59
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if you itemize, you can't use standard deduction. that increase is meaningless.
Posted on: 2017/12/6 18:22
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One real estate blogger (and landlord) thinks RE investors will win big. Quote:
Posted on: 2017/12/6 15:20
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Rent income / loss has been treated as passive. Once your adjusted gross income goes over $100k, the tax advantage of owning investment property (ability to take losses against your active income) pretty much goes away. So far I haven't found any articles on changes, if any, to the tax treatment of real estate income / loss.
Posted on: 2017/12/6 12:39
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Another tool below - not sure whether it is the latest version of the senate bill. It looks like the SALT adjustment starts having a negative impact when >40K in property+state tax and it may be less impactful if AMT is eliminated. In any case, the "reform" seems more profitable for investors who buy-to-rent since it looks like there won't be cap on SALT deduction. Imho though, any investment in this area should take into consideration the likelihood of a downward adjustment in rents with more units turning on the market.
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/the- ... hat-do-you-owe-2017-10-26
Posted on: 2017/12/6 1:41
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The standard deduction was increased to $24k in Senate and $24.4k in the House bill. I think the Senate bill has some additional child tax credits.
Posted on: 2017/12/5 19:49
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one thing being overlooked is the personal exemption. i think the plans call for its elimination. If that is eliminated (it's $4,050 a person/dependent) and you have a family of four, that's a $16,200 write off that disappears. that sucks.
Posted on: 2017/12/5 18:58
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House plan kills the AMT. The Senate plan keeps it in place.
Posted on: 2017/12/5 17:43
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Are they killing individual AMT, or just raising the cap?
Posted on: 2017/12/5 17:05
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If you want an estimate of how your taxes will be affected by the House and Senate plan, break out last year's 1040 and plug in the data to this calculator:
http://taxplancalculator.com It's simplified, so I would take what it calcs with a grain of salt. For example, it doesn't calculate the effect of a tax deferred / tax free savings plan (i.e. 401k, HSA).
Posted on: 2017/12/5 16:36
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One other factor in the tax discussion...the proposed elimination of the AMT for individuals. For people who can afford to buy in the market, the cap on SALT may not matter that much for those who were previously subject to the AMT. I may be somewhat of a wash.
Posted on: 2017/12/5 16:21
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