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Re: Jersey City bursting at seams with population surge
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Gezzzz... not sure a morose DB personality like yours can be fixed but we can only hope that you will seek the help you desperately need.

I know this is off-topic, but... Did you really not get the Simpsons reference?

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Re: Worst traffic ever
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Snowstorm brought to you by Mother Nature.

Ensuing chaos and cluster-eff brought to you by Murphy, Fulop and the rest of the social, liberal Dems!!

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The storm hit much harder than predicted -- it was the worst one-day November snowfall in well over 100 years. As a result, no one was prepared. Not municipalities, not commuters, not transit agencies. Once you had a bunch of vehicles stuck on the roads, the plows and salt spreaders had no way to get through, and couldn't clear anything.

The only way this could have been avoided is if the politicians blatantly ignored the forecast, and committed to expending resources to treat a light dusting like a minor blizzard. At the time that decision had to be made, it would have seemed like an unjustifiable extravagance, and a wasteful one as well.

No one was going to do that. No one did do that. If they had, and it was a light dusting, they would have been raked over the coals for wasting money.

Posted on: 11/17 12:58
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Re: New Amazon HQ
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Between Amazon’s 25,000 and Google’s 12,000 new employees, downtown JC will definitively be effected. Even if Amazon employees don’t end up living in JC, they will displace some people who will.

NYC grows by at least 100k per year -- and not all of the Amazon jobs will be filled by people moving to NYC. In fact, a big reason for Amazon picking NYC is to hire people who are already in NYC, or already planning to move to NYC. I.e. we won't see 37,000 new people house hunting in JSQ next weekend.

Plus, whatever the impact is, it will be spread over literally millions of housing units. JC is 5-8 miles and two rivers (or: 1 hour on two strained train systems) away from LIC. That distance covers huge swaths of Brooklyn, Queens, Manhattan, Hoboken, parts of the so-called Gold Coast....

The biggest impact will obviously be on LIC -- which is already undergoing a housing boom. Again, it's been gentrifying and building for years now. Over 1400 units were approved this year for LIC, and that was before HQ2.5 was announced.

I assume most of those new units will be aimed squarely at those high income earners; and since DTJC is already gentrified and other PATH-adjacent areas are already on their way, unfortunately I don't think there is much room for those pushed out by rising prices.

I cheerily admit I prefer this kind of narrative to the "OMG we're in a bubble we will all be underwater on our mortgages next week!!!" But overall, I expect the effects on JC will be indirect and small.

If Amazon had selected Newark, that would be a completely different story.

Posted on: 11/15 11:58
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Re: New Amazon HQ
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The JC to Queens commute is not great, with both the PATH *and* the E/R trains getting very crowded.


Several of my clients moved from the garment center to LIC. Honestly, the travel time is the same since I'm not fighting my way to walk 1/2 mile through the crowded midtown streets. So, can JC be worth the extra fare to commute to LIC? Given that an unlimited Smartlink card is $1000/yr, you can easily save that in 2 months of rent over equivalent areas of Queens. Transferring at 23rd street to the F is a snap.

I'll also point out that outdoor recreation opportunities were on that list of requirements. I guess they downgraded it, but getting to the Catskills or Poconos is FAR easier from JC than Queens, one reason we moved here rather than Brooklyn 20 years ago.

I had a client make almost the exact same move. My travel time nearly doubled. So did my travel costs.

"Fighting you way through the streets?" Really?

LIC has also gentrified quite a bit in the past 10-15 years, with lots of housing and amenities already in the pipeline. LIC will be almost completely transformed by the time HQ 2½ is up and running.

Jersey City would be pretty low on the list if I landed a high-paying job in LIC today.

Posted on: 11/13 21:23
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Re: New Amazon HQ
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Well, it's official.

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plus 5000 jobs in Nashville

I don't expect this will have a big impact on JC, though it is plausible that some people who will be priced out of LIC/Queens could move to affordable parts of JC.

Posted on: 11/13 10:03
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Re: Jersey City Transforms Parking Spots into Parklets
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Dolomiti, course they are near traffic, actually, there is one not far from a fire station in the heights.

Good grief. It uses a single parking space! It doesn't stick into the street. It doesn't take up more space than a parked car. It doesn't cause more traffic. And it is nowhere near the out-of-town traffic that you were just blaming for increased traffic accidents.



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With the city removing parking and these parklets, it is just easier to shop and go to a restaurant outside JC.

They're using five parking spots. FIVE. The idea that this will have even the slightest dent on the number of available parking spaces, in a city the size of JC, is utterly irrational.

Plus, Jersey City doesn't have to orient its entire public policy around cars. Quite the opposite.


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The hassle is not worth it.

There is no hassle. Thus, by definition it is worth it.


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Why doesn't the city do a survey and ask residents where they shop and why?

Because we elect representatives to make decisions like this. That's how a representative democracy works.

Posted on: 9/27 21:33
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Re: Jersey City Transforms Parking Spots into Parklets
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JC has turnpike traffic, the Holland Tunnel Traffic, 1&9 Traffic, 139 Traffic plus people coming here from Bayonne and North Hudson.

None of the parklets are anywhere near any of that traffic.

None of the parklets will cause any accidents. There is no rational reason for anyone to believe they will cause any accidents. They are literally the size of a normal parking space. They will be surrounded by parked cars. There is no risk.

Stop the fear mongering.


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Part of the reason why there are accidents in JC has to do with the traffic lights. Unlike other cities, our lights are not uniform. One block is green but the next is red.

This happens everywhere. It doesn't cause accidents.


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So many cars including buses rush through because they know they would have to wait.

This also happens all over.


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Other cities have continuous lights of green or red which eliminate the need to rush plus our streets are very narrow unlike NYC.

Please, stop being silly.

Some major arterioles, including in JC, time the lights. Other roads are not timed. These policies don't really cause or stop accidents.

Posted on: 9/26 14:41
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Re: Jersey City Transforms Parking Spots into Parklets
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When a car or bus loses control we will see how long these parklets last.

Egads

These spots are literally the same size as a parking space. There is absolutely no justification whatsoever to claim they will cause any vehicle to "lose control."

Cue next rationalization in 3, 2, 1....

Posted on: 9/24 16:12
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Re: 2018 Property Tax payments: 3rd & 4th Quarter information
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My bank says they haven't received the tax bill yet.

Posted on: 8/23 15:30
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Re: I've seen pre-construction sales but this is ridiculous! 323 7th St
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A broken clock isn't actually correct, because it isn't actually working. It never accurately tells you the real time, because even if it's busted at 10:20, and the time is 10:20, you can't rely on the clock to be informing you that it is, in fact, 10:20 when you happen to be looking at it.


That's the entire point of the saying, you dolt.

1) Insults like that are uncalled for, and do not help you make your point.

2) Since you obviously missed it: Brewster used the cliche to suggest that predictions of imminent real estate doom in DT JC are justified, even if they wrong over and over and over again, because eventually someone who makes that prediction will be "right." I'm pointing out that isn't the case.

E.g. If you rub two stones together and say "this will make it rain tomorrow" every single day, then you are still not correct on the day that it inevitably rains.

So, if you exit a real estate market 3+ years before there is a crash, based on a poor predictor (e.g. a few properties whose price is absurd), you may pay a steeper price than exiting shortly after property prices increase by 25% per year. And even if you miraculously exit the market at the perfect time, that still doesn't prove that your "indicator" actually works.

Get it?

Posted on: 8/16 10:01
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Re: I've seen pre-construction sales but this is ridiculous! 323 7th St
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I have to point out that people on JC List (not the people posting in this thread so far) have seen "signs" of bubbles and bursts for at least 3 years now.


Sometimes, as last time, these thing have so many moving parts and outside forces it's hard to predict. Even a broken clock is eventually right! I see prices going sky high, but not rents or salaries. That spells trouble to me, but I already admitted to being too timid to buy in this market.

Did you read the article about the dude who had been predicting the economic disaster in Turkey for at least 6 years? He was right, it just took time.

A broken clock isn't actually correct, because it isn't actually working. It never accurately tells you the real time, because even if it's busted at 10:20, and the time is 10:20, you can't rely on the clock to be informing you that it is, in fact, 10:20 when you happen to be looking at it.

Someone who predicts doom for JC real estate, and gets the reasons totally wrong, and the timing totally wrong? Sorry, but they are still wrong. And very, very few people get it right most of the time. (Read Phil Tetlock's books for a thorough examination of the inaccuracy of human predictions.)

Posted on: 8/14 23:31
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Re: I've seen pre-construction sales but this is ridiculous! 323 7th St
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I have to point out that people on JC List (not the people posting in this thread so far) have seen "signs" of bubbles and bursts for at least 3 years now. Such as sky-high prices on individual properties, or crowded PATH trains, or the reval, or...

One individual said that April 2015 was the time to sell, not buy. Since then, the median list price has gone from $300k to almost $600k. I wonder if that person took their own advice?

The fundamentals haven't changed much in the past 3 years. NYC is still insanely expensive. Inventory is still incredibly tight. Interest rates are still low. PATH, as much as you may hate it, is still better than driving or NJ Transit or buses.

I don't have a crystal ball, I have no better idea than anyone else what will happen in 1 or 2 or 10 years. I just don't find the constant expectations of a huge crash to be particularly useful or accurate.

Posted on: 8/14 21:02
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Re: Okay, so who here thinks the Katyn monument needs to go?
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I Did Read His Response, Completely...

Apparently not. It's not that complicated.


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so that I might understand WHY he believes what he states here.

I don't believe it. I'm illustrating that Yvonne is a hypocrite, and that her irrational ad hoc rationalization blew up in her face.

Posted on: 8/12 19:09
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Re: Okay, so who here thinks the Katyn monument needs to go?
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WHY Dolomiti ??

Seriously? You can't figure this out?

Yvonne is saying that I do not have the right to make any changes to any existing public policy. But if I don't have the right to advocate for any changes, then neither does she.

I.e. I'm illustrating that her position is irrational and hypocritical. It went over her head, of course, because she's behaving irrationally and hypocritically. So it goes.


I figure this out as it proceeds, based upon All of the Shitstorm Sideshows going on in or about JC in these times and a Pacer account.

My Question to you is Only about your text words that I have converted to Bold.......so again, I am asking you WHY ???

I already answered your question.

Posted on: 8/12 19:06
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Re: Okay, so who here thinks the Katyn monument needs to go?
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WHY Dolomiti ??

Seriously? You can't figure this out?

Yvonne is saying that I do not have the right to make any changes to any existing public policy. But if I don't have the right to advocate for any changes, then neither does she.

I.e. I'm illustrating that her position is irrational and hypocritical. It went over her head, of course, because she's behaving irrationally and hypocritically. So it goes.

Posted on: 8/11 13:57
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Re: Okay, so who here thinks the Katyn monument needs to go?
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Dolomiti, where are the by-laws here that says, I must respond to what you say? I gave you my statement.

No one said you have to respond to me. You chose to do so, of your own free will. And I chose to point out that a) your response is illogical, and b) your response did not answer my question.

And in case you missed the sarcasm: Your ad hoc rationalization does not work. Period.

I mean, really. Read your own statement. You're saying I don't have the right to any opinion about anything in the city. If something was decided before I moved here? I have no say. If something was decided after I moved here? I still have no say. But, of course, you and anyone who agrees with you are not bound by this requirement.

Nuts to that. I have the same right to express my opinion as you, and any other resident of this city. I don't lose that right because you don't like what I have to say.

Posted on: 8/6 19:59
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Re: Okay, so who here thinks the Katyn monument needs to go?
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The statue will have a nice prominent location and there will be a nice park at ExPl. Who can be upset about that?

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Re: Okay, so who here thinks the Katyn monument needs to go?
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Dolomiti, the Katyn monument has been there for over 30 years, if you were here, then you had the opportunity to speak at the city council meeting that you did not want it. If you came later, then you moved into a city that already had the statue and chose to stay.

Yeah, you might want to rethink that.

You had the opportunity to speak against the pedestrian plaza on Newark. It happened anyway. By your own logic, you should just accept it, and give up any future opportunity to reverse it.

You had the opportunity to speak against moving the statue. It happened anyway. By your own logic, you should just accept it, and forsake any future opportunity to reverse this decision.

You had the opportunity to vote for someone other than Fulop. He was properly elected as Mayor. You had your shot, it didn't go your way, and by your own logic you should quietly and humbly accept the consequences... and not complain.

P.S. You didn't answer my question. Why am I not surprised.

Posted on: 8/6 19:25
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Re: Okay, so who here thinks the Katyn monument needs to go?
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This is really one of the dumbest battles I've ever heard of. Surprised how much time is collectively wasted on this effort which will ultimately fail.

It's not like they are demolishing the hideous statue - 1 frigged over.

Hilarious.


Actually, you are right, my opinion does not matter, but the people who signed these petitions do matter as a group. A black veteran who signed the petition was upset that the mayor would move a war memorial. His opinion counts.

So does mine.

I'm not upset. It's an ugly and gruesome statue. I am 100% fine with it being moved and/or replaced.

Should his opinion matter more than mine? Nope. We're equals, we both get an equal say, both our opinions weigh the same. So why are you crediting his opinion more than mine?

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Re: Where is Gov Murphy?
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I don’t begrudge our President, or Murph having security on vacations. I only object when one wouldn’t say where the protection is occurring.

Did you complain when Christie took off on a secret vacation in 2011? If you did, I see no sign of it...

https://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2011 ... ie_heads_on_two-week.html

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Re: Boonton Reservoir
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oreoz, you remind me of the naysayers who said the World Trade Center will never come down after the first bombing in 1993.

What the....

New York State allows hiking, fishing, boating and other forms of recreation at many of is reservoirs. That's just a fact.

We should also note that it's not like Boonton Reservoir is hermetically sealed from human influence. 287 runs right along the reservoir's west side; 46 runs along the southern end; there are suburban neighborhoods along the north and eastern sides.

Runoff from all of those areas goes into the reservoir, which is why... say it with me now... The water is filtered and treated AFTER it leaves the reservoir.

There is no threat whatsoever by allowing access. None whatsoever. Nearby residents get a little more green space; JC builds some goodwill. Everyone wins.

Posted on: 8/1 14:14
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Re: Boonton Reservoir
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YES. Another loss for Yvonne and her NIMBY army.

It's not their backyard this time

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Re: Okay, so who here thinks the Katyn monument needs to go?
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None of this change the fact that a third independent party should be checking these signatures.

You only want a recheck because you lost. Badly. That is not a valid justification.

It's a done deal. Enjoy the statue's new location.

Posted on: 7/24 18:33
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Re: 2017 Reval ~ Property Inspections
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On the topic of Fulop, I'm kinda pissed off One Journal Square remains a vacant plot of land collecting weed and garbage.

Yeah, that's mostly the Kushner family's fault.

After buying the property, the Kushners got it on the EB-5 program. This allows foreign investors to get fast-tracked for a green card. The Kushners got caught using this as a selling point for Chinese investors to the project, which in turn started a federal investigation.

The project stalled, an anchor tenant (WeWork) pulled out, the Kushners couldn't get it funded. It was only a few months ago that the city declared the project in default.

It might make sense to start the clock on the Fulop blame now, but yeah, most of the failure is because the Kushners got busted trying to sell green cards to Chinese investors.

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Re: Legal Weed Is Coming to New Jersey
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i'm pretty much agree that nixon might be causing cuomo to shift on marijuana, but i'm pointing out that murphy hasn't done much so far on recreational marjuana (something he campaigned on). you don't want to know what i think about christie or trump; i'm merely pointing out that they tried/are trying to implement policies to keep their base happy

Murphy is constantly pushing to get it done. It's getting held up by legislators who have very different concerns, which makes compromise difficult.

To put it briefly, Trump SUCKS at getting legislation passed. ACA replacement? Total failure, and he's completely given up. Mexico paying for the wall? Epic fail. Immigration and Dreamer legislation? Fail. Infrastructure plan? Vaporware. Legislative agendas are dead for 2018, due to the midterms. The only thing he did was cut taxes, and no one could fail to get a tax cut through a Republican legislature. Even Obama did that.

As to Christie: Not only was he the least popular governor in NJ history, he was the least popular gov in any state in 20 years of Quinnipiac's polling. You don't get that way by giving the base what it wants. Plus, you can't really push legislation when you spend about 2 years out of state prepping for a Presidential run, which failed quickly, then sucking up to Trump for months, only to get fired before the inauguration, all while fending off a major scandal....

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Re: Legal Weed Is Coming to New Jersey
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...and a Gothamist article from last month, pointing out that "yeah, legal weed in NY State, it's gonna be a while."

http://gothamist.com/2018/06/18/ny_marijuana_legalization.php

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Re: Legal Weed Is Coming to New Jersey
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Looks like NY might have legal rec weed b4 NJ....why does NJ always move at a snail's pace?

You think that New York State works fast? hahahaha

Anyway... If you read the article you linked, it points out that Cuomo has opposed legal weed for a long time. He's only discussing it at all because Miranda Hobbes Cynthia Nixon is pushing him to the left.

Another reason Cuomo is even considering it, after years of opposition? Yeah, it's because NJ and other nearby states might legalize first.

NJ is going slow because some legislators are dead set against legalization; and those who support it want to make sure that people previously busted on pot charges don't get screwed by legalization. The alcohol lobbies are pushing hard against it, too. New York legislators will have the same types of concerns and issues.


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This is sort of my problem with democrats...other than obama, they don't want to deliver.

Yes, because it's not like Christie spent his entire term sabotaging medical marijuana, and categorically refused to consider decriminalization, let alone recreational use. Or Kim Guadagno opposed recreational marijuana. Oh, wait...


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say what u want about trump....

Yeah, you really don't want to hear what I have to say about that.

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Re: Boonton Reservoir
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Who said they are just hikers?

They're working with the Open Space State Institute. Ensuring clean water is part of their mission. They already protect watersheds all over the Eastern US.

It's a conservation agency, not a party boat operator.


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I have been to parks where people made a mess and that garbage goes into the stream. I want my water clean.

Are you even trying anymore?

Once more, with feeling:

Jersey City already allows hiking on the buffer lands of its reservoirs.

The water is purified AFTER IT LEAVES THE RESERVOIR.


There is no downside here. They aren't opening a beach for public access. The water won't be impacted. A big chunk of JC's water supply already allows this kind of access.

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Re: Boonton Reservoir
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I still don't want the water I drink and the water mothers give their children contaminated by human activities. Many homeless eat from the garbage bins, they live so it is probably not bad, but I doubt anyone here would do the same.

Hello? McFly?

The water is purified AFTER it is drawn from the reservoir.

Allowing hikers will not, in any way shape or form, result in any contamination.

Oh, and guess what? Jersey City also gets water from Splitrock Reservation, which... wait for it... allows exactly this kind of open access on its buffer lands. It has lots of hiking trails nearby, and allows fishing.

I've hiked up there, it's quite nice. You should check it out.

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Re: Boonton Reservoir
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Resolution 18-653 is a licensed agreement with JC and Open Space Institute for Jersey City Reservoir in Boonton. There will be trails in the reservoir, meaning the reservoir will be open to the public, the more it is open to the public the greater risks of contamination. It is the water we drink. It is on the agenda for Wednesday.

What you're saying is beyond absurd.

1) The reservoir is huge. You'd have to dump entire tanker trucks to "contaminate" it.

2) The water is purified after it leaves the reservoir. It's not going to get contaminated by hikers.

3) The Rockaway River feeds into the reservoir. It's publicly accessible... including at a park about 300 yards away from the reservoir.

4) Numerous reservoirs have open space and hiking nearby... and don't result in OMG NO TERRARIST ATTACKS GAAAAAHHHH!!!


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I don't want access to terrorist or just to people who walks their dogs and decides their dog should be in the reservoir. We do have Reservoir 3 in JC for recreational purposes. Besides this would not benefit JC in any way since Boonton is not closeby.

There is no terrorist threat. That's beyond absurd.

Dogs pose no threat to the reservoir. It's open space, fer cryin' out loud. All sorts of animals and birds and insects are in the area.

I live in JC. I hike all over northern NJ. I'll benefit, just like I've benefitted from so many other natural spaces opened to hikers. So will many other New Jersey residents... who, last I checked, are paying to educate our kids. Not only is it the right thing to do, it's beneficial for the city, as it builds a little good will.

This is all upside.


I have no idea what your real agenda is here, but now that you've brought this to my attention, I plan to support it. Thanks!

Posted on: 7/16 20:58
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