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Re: Woman dies falling off escalator inside famed World Trade Center Oculus while reaching to grab hat
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The Oculus is a death trap waiting to happen. If there is ever a situation that causes a panic there, it will be terrible. The stairs leading to the Path trains are terribly designed, the flooring and stairs are hard marble, and there are far too few open exits. The side exits are short escalator, stairs, and another set of escalators with lines to get on the escalators any time around rush hour. Commuters are always walking into one another's way. I compute there each workday and everyday I look to see if they have opened more exits (they have not). It was designed for an open concept and for shopping, but it a terrible commuting hub.


I have no doubt that in your opinion and from your perspective this is true. But I see it the exact opposite. Multiple shorter runs give people options when exiting, especially if there is an inoperable point of egress. I find the entire space to function beautifully in large crowds when people can navigate the large, unencumbered space and wide stairs. So, to each his own.

I'd add that they almost certainly ran crowd flow simulations at various points in the design process. That's fairly easy to do with modern software.

AFAIK there are at least 5 points of egress, in different directions. It's easier to get out of than, say, most of Penn Station -- or the old mall under the WTC.

My biggest issue in this respect is the lack of hand rails on the two wide staircases. That doesn't make sense to me.

Posted on: 2/14 16:48
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Re: PATH (pathetic attempt at transporting humans)
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I know New York is expanding their ferry service, and the cost will be the same as a single ride MTA swipe of a metro card. It's too bad New Jersey can't figure out something along those lines. I think more people would take the ferry if it didn't cost $6/$7 a ride from Jersey City.

The ferries are expensive because they're privately operated.

The only way to reduce the cost is to subsidize them. Which is fine, but also means someone else is now paying for the ferry, via taxes. So who is stuck with the bill?

Posted on: 2/9 10:09
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Re: Gentrification spreads west to Newark
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Most of the units in these buildings are going for nowhere near those crazy advertised rents. I explained in another thread how I signed a lease at a 15% discount from the advertised rent ($800/month cheaper than advertised) about a month ago.

15% off doesn't seem that outrageous -- or atypical, especially during the winter. The entire rental market got a little hot, and landlords all over the area are cutting deals. That could change in just a few months.

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Re: Gentrification spreads west to Newark
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There is a finite number of folks that aren't rich enough to pay high Manhattan or bougie Brooklyn rents (let's call it $3,400 a month+) but making sufficient income to think that $2,300 is a fair price to pay to live in a high rise studio in DTJC, or $2,000 to live in a big loft in Newark.

If all these neighborhoods and municipalities are clamoring for the same economic cohort and collectively bringing 5,000+ units to market every year, just makes me wonder whether rental supply at these price points is going to eclipse renter demand at the coming years.

People have been saying things like this for years, but demand hasn't dropped much.

There are close to 20 million people in the NYC metro area. The population grows by almost 50,000 per year. The median household income in 07302 is $98k, and probably rising.

Developers have lots of money on the line, so they usually pay attention to changes in housing stock, population shifts, demographics, changes in interest rates and credit markets, and so forth. Whoever is building in Newark is taking a risk, but not a blind risk.

Sure, they can misjudge the market. However, seeing a bubble at every turn, and assuming that every change precedes another huge crash, is another way to misjudge a market. Especially since this area's market did very well overall after the last big crash....

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Re: Gentrification spreads west to Newark
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Another cause to the crazy rental prices and high density multi-level inner city developments is public transport. Who in their right mind wants to be squashed into a path train or sardined into a bus to get to Manhattan?

Erm... pretty much everyone who moves into or lives in JC, and commutes to NYC. Which is why JC is gaining in population.

And as someone who has experienced many different public transportation systems? PATH is not that bad. A lot of systems in major cities don't even run 24 hours (SF, Boston, London, Paris etc)


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If public transport was greatly improved and modernised with more options across the Hudson, be it under or over it then expect crazy sale and rental prices bordering the Hudson and Manhattan and any side of it.

Erm... DTJC and Hoboken already have fairly high housing prices. JSQ, Harrison, DT Newark are next. It's probably not going to slow down, despite the perpetual hue and cry of BUBBLE!!!! Hence the OP's question.


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If public transport was 'gentrified' too, and it was 'comfortable' for a 1 hour commute, we would have more affordable housing in our outer suburbs and people would have better options to housing.

Many NJT trains are quite comfortable; the newer double deckers are pretty sweet. The real issue there is just starting to be felt, namely that Amtrak's tunnels (which NJT uses) don't have enough capacity, and are in dire need of maintenance.

There are also lots of bedroom communities that are within 1 hour of NYC via NJT/LIRR/MN. Some are affordable; some are not. Quite a few are adding housing, especially right next to the train lines. There's quite a bit of that long the M&E line.

More to the point, you don't seem to quite understand how supply and demand works. As demand in suburbs rises, the tendency is for prices to increase, not decrease. E.g. when the NJT Midtown Direct line came online, prices in towns like Maplewood and South Orange went up, not down. It's usually more difficult (or at least, more expensive and less efficient) to add housing in suburbs than urban areas.


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Basically, our city planners are suffering from tunnel vision to only accommodate the wants of developers and not the end users ... once again it's our politicians that are failing us and often enough, we hear how they get financial kick-backs from the same!

Yeah, not so much.

Mayors of Newark and Jersey City don't have unilateral control of public transportation in the area. City planners were also the ones who implemented the HBLR -- and it was city residents who fought it bitterly, forced it to slow down etc.

Developers do often get their way. However, refusing to build will cause its own problems, including exacerbating issues of affordability. E.g. San Francisco and much of the Bay Area shuts down development, and the result is that rents and home prices are through the roof; working- and middle-class people are shut out; commutes have gotten crazy, despite very good regional transport systems (BART, MUNI).

And of course, it's not like suburban politicians are squeaky clean.

Posted on: 2/6 21:18
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Re: Gentrification spreads west to Newark
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A gentrification story on WNYC today caught my attention - about Baraka's plans to revitalize the Ironbound with a new Whole Foods, Barnes & Noble and a high-line inspired park.

Aside from being the paint-by-numbers report on how new investment brings in more affluent residents at the cost of pushing out poorer existing residents that we've all read a hundred times before, the piece does not mention the changes and new construction taking place further down the PATH toward Manhattan.

I think it is nuts that a building like The Morgan on Marin Blvd is asking up to $2,500 for a studio apartment, but when I hear a loft in downtown Newark is asking $2,000, suddenly its not DTJC that seems so absurd, but the entire rental situation throughout the NYC metro area...

Real estate price high? In the NYC metro area? What fresh hell is this?!?

Real estate has always been nuts in the metro area. I'm also guessing that Newark loft offers a lot more square footage than that studio in the Morgan.

Keep in mind that wages in the NYC area are much, much higher than in many parts of the US. An annual wage of $50,000 in NYC is comparable to a wage of $20,000 in Cincinnati. Housing is often a big part of that equation, as housing is 80% cheaper in Cincinnati.

As to gentrification, there isn't much of a solution to that problem for Newark, since it's already underway, and over 70% of households are renters (about the same as JC). The best the city can hope for is forcing developers to build affordable units.

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Re: Downtown Jersey City is now more expensive than Hoboken on the rental side.
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in my humble opinion, fulop has not done enuff to wean developers off abatements in dtjc...

He's cut back DT abatements to 10 years if 10% of units are affordable. The more affordable units, the bigger the abatement. Other parts of town (like JSQ) get bigger abatements.


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some people are getting fed up. why should i bother to vote for fulop if he is gonna do the exact same thing that a republican would do....f_ck him.

This is why we have elections, and why you should contact your elected representatives. If people are mad about abatements, they can write to Fulop & the assembly, and/or vote for other people.

I don't think Fulop is acting much like a Republican. Di Blasio has a similar program, albeit more aggressive on affordable unit requirements.

Posted on: 1/29 19:46
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Re: Downtown Jersey City is now more expensive than Hoboken on the rental side.
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I have a feeling that the data noted in the article doesn't account for incentives and therefore doesn't reflect real, net effective rents.

They're almost certainly just going off of listings and MLS. The report is put together by a small real estate agency, not a research firm. Najjar puts out a similar report ( http://www.najjargroup.com/state-of-the-waterfront-1/ )

That said, one person with one price range isn't necessarily indicative of the behavior of the entire market.

Posted on: 1/29 16:10
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Re: Likelihood of Fulop Getting Reelected
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maybe he will actually do and or complete a few things that he said he would - at least between now and next November.

Do we have a list of his campaign promises, that we can compare to what he's done?

Posted on: 1/25 9:42
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Re: Likelihood of Fulop Getting Reelected
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Any statisticians or Vegas odd makers here ?

My guess is, he'll be re-elected.

Does anyone bother to run polls in JC?

Posted on: 1/23 13:53
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Re: New CCTV cameras being installed in Jersey City
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Nice 1

High res digital modern cameras that will thwart crime in the problem areas or at least get clear images of the savages who commit them.

Next will be allowing stop and frisk policies to keep that area safe - keeping the decent folk who live there some sense of security.

All good in the Da Hood.....

#fornow

Erm.... Yeah... No.

The current trend is away from stop & frisk, since it generated a massive lawsuit and loss in NYC.

Also, S&F is not a reason to either adopt or reject police cameras. The two are independent, and there is no slippery slope.

Posted on: 1/20 15:34
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Re: Roberto Clemente Field Just Sold?
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consider what this huge density jump will do to traffic - on roads, in public transit, etc.


A dirty little secret about the PATH train is that they run service at precisely the frequency that makes sure it is packed NO MATTER how many riders there are...I've seen trains packed at 11am, when the ridership volume is about 1/3 of what it is at rush hour. Why?

I've never seen a packed train at 11am on a weekday. And I've taken LOTS of non-rush-hour trains.

On weekdays, rains run every 10 minutes from 10AM to 5PM. DEVIOUS!!!

And yes, it does make sense to run fewer trains when there are fewer riders. Every transit system does that, because it reduces strain on the system and keeps costs down.


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The only true bottleneck is at rush hour. But the PA's latest capital plan calls for buying more cars now that the new signal system has been installed. That should increase frequency/capacity about 18% starting in 2018. Guess what? They never would've bought the cars to increase rush hour frequency if ridership hadn't increased.

Uh... Okay...

You do understand that a rail line is not going to buy extra cars just to have extra cars, right...?


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Capacity can further be increased about 50% in the future by accomodating 10-car trains and cars with open gangways. These aren't insanely expensive moves....

10 car trains on all lines requires extending the Harrison Station. That's already in progress, and is not cheap.

Removing gangways will help, but it's not going to increase capacity by 25%. Since that requires buying all new cars, that is not cheap either.

Feasible yes. Cheap no.


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Even if we leveled half of downtown into a giant parking lot (which many people here would love), the PATH would STILL be packed, because they'd just reduce service frequency to compensate.

If you mean that they aren't going to run enough cars for everyone to have a seat during rush hour? Then you're correct.

They are not going to run the system on max, 24/7, so you can get somewhere 5 minutes faster in the middle of the day.

In fact, the ideal would be to have headroom in capacity, so that they can handle future increases.

Further, it's not clear they will reduce frequency during the day. They just might send 6- and 7- and 8-car trains during the day, and maintain 10 minute intervals, as they do now.

Keep in mind they are also planning to extend the PATH to Newark Airport. Making people wait 20 minutes for the train in mid-day, when they're going to the airport? THAT is not going to work.

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Re: Jersey City mayor-elect orders end to citywide reval
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When we live in one of the states with the highest taxes in the nation, I doubt people want to cough up another 1% or even .5%, unless the increase is offset by a reduction somewhere else.

just my $0.02

Meh... No one likes paying taxes.

And again, since this is revenue neutral, in order for one person's tax bill to go up, another person's tax bill has to go down. This is about fairness, not about socking people for higher taxes.

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Re: Jersey City mayor-elect orders end to citywide reval
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It still amazes me that people thought the taxes they were paying on some of these DTJC properties was correct....

I don' think most people have any clue how real estate taxes are calculated. They just look at the sheet, see "ok that's the tax," and hate paying no matter what the amount.

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Re: USA added to list of persecuted Christians
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Recently Ellen DeGeneres disinvited a guest to her show because the woman who is a preacher talked about homosexuality in her church. Ellen is on public airwaves in which her show lease from the government with renewals. That was a violation. You are ignoring the crimes of the liberals.

Again, wrong.

Being a guest on Ellen's show is not protected. That aspect of her show is not open to the public. It's invite only, it's got a long history of exclusivity, and it's expressive.

What she can't do is bar people from the audience on the basis of their race, class, gender, religion or sexual orientation. That part is open to the public, and anyone can attend.

Leasing air from the government has absolutely nothing to do with whom Ellen can invite on her show. They are already subject to FCC rules, which don't require hosts to invite certain types of guests.

I.e. if your claim was correct, then I could barge into Fox News and demand to be a guest on Bill O'Reilly's show. Not only is such behavior not protected, it's not even a good idea.

It may be impolite or even unethical to disinvite someone based on their religious views, but it certainly is not a violation of civil rights laws.

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Re: USA added to list of persecuted Christians
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Florist arrangements or creating a wedding cake is part of an art form.

No, it isn't.

It's a business that operates as a public accommodation. Making cakes is a commercial service, not an expressive act. When the baker writes "Congrats Tim and Jim on their wedding," that is no more an expressive act than someone walking into Kinko's and using their photocopiers to print hundreds of flyers.

Something similar happened with the Elane Photography case. The photographer refused to photograph a wedding specifically because of the gender and sexual orientation of the participants (a gay couple). The New Mexico court ruled that because Elane Photography advertised its services directly to the public, it was operating as a public accommodation. It rejected the idea that expressive professions were exempt from the civil rights laws.


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How many artists refused to participate in Trump’s inauguration? Shouldn’t Trump sue because those artists discriminated against him?

lol

Nope. Those artists do not operate as public accommodations. Civil rights laws do not apply.


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He is in an unique classification as president so he has a case.

Not even close.

In addition to the above issue: "Elected official" is not a protected classification. Maybe you could get away with that in California, where civil rights laws have been interpreted broadly. But that's not going to fly in most US states.


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An artist also said on tv that he refused to design Mrs. Trump dress, isn't that another discrimination case?

Probably not.

You'd have to make the case that the designer operates as a public accommodation. If they do not advertise haute couture or custom design services to the public, or have a history of being exclusive, then you aren't likely to prove in court that they operate as a public accommodation.

E.g. Andre Leon Talley doesn't operate as a public accommodation. He doesn't advertise his services as a stylist, he has a history of exclusivity, he doesn't have a storefront open to the public. Same for John Wu's services as a designer.

I realize civil rights law is complex (and what I'm saying just scratches the surface), but next time it might help to know what you're talking about before making such suggestions.

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Re: USA added to list of persecuted Christians
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One reason why the USA is on this list. Did same sex activists say same sex marriage would not harm anyone?

Requiring businesses to obey civil rights laws does not qualify as a type of harm.

If that was the case, then requiring businesses to serve blacks would also qualify as "harm." (And yes, many people did cite religious beliefs to justify segregation.)

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Re: 25 miles up the Hudson River -- the Indian Point nuclear power plant will be shut down.
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Oh good, now we can burn more fossil fuels.


Too many accidents at this facility - plus they built it on a major earthquake fault. I'm glad it's closing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Point_Energy_Center


Closing it before building a replacement facility?

Hope you like burning a lot more fossil fuel and paying more for energy.

Actually, it looks like most of it will be replaced with increased transmission efficiency, hydro, and other sustainable energy sources.

NY State already has a target to generate 50% of its energy from sustainable sources. Closing Indian Point is not likely to thwart that goal.

Further, citing the potential benefits of nuclear doesn't make the problems of Indian Point go away.

It's too close to one of the most populated cities in the world; it's had lots of small leaks of radioactive isotopes into the Hudson; the cooling system kills fish in the Hudson; it turns out to be sited on top of a fault line.

While no one likes the idea of having a nuclear plant for a neighbor, if we really want another nuclear power plant, it ought to be somewhere else.

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Re: USA added to list of persecuted Christians
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Luckily, the rules in the Vatican has changed, gay men cannot enter the seminary to become priests.

Huh? When were gay men ever allowed to become priests?

And you do know that the problem was not limited to same-sex abuse?

That being said, the real problem was that the RCC chose to protect priests, rather than protect communities. That is less likely to happen today than ~15 years ago.


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Still the USA does deserves this inclusion.

For what, exactly?

• The report cites alleged anti-Christian bias in the media. Given that 70% of Americans are Christian, that is obviously more hyper-sensitivity than anything else.

• It cites several examples of state and federal governments enforcing the separation of church and state. That is hardly as bad as Saudi Arabia arresting Christians for proselytization.

• It says that Americans voluntarily eschewing organized religion is somehow anti-Christian.

• It chides "court decisions" for basically not going how this organization wants. *cough* Obergefell

Sorry, but this is a bunch of BS, and does not serve the organization's mission. When it comes to evaluations of persecution, I'll stick to Amnesty International, kthx.


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Re: Seth Boyden Housing Project Complex to Become PATH Station Village
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this sounds like a sop in attempts to justify the expense of extending the PATH to Newark Airport. there is no shortage of increasing PATH ridership and only two tunnels under the north river.

One-seat train from Manhattan and JC to EWR sounds like a big win to me. An expensive one, but still a win.

I also doubt there is a massive rush of planes arriving at 8:00 AM weekdays, and departing at 6:00 PM weekdays and 12:00 AM weekends. More likely is that there will be better utilization of off-hour trains, which are not particularly crowded.

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Re: Car stolen from front of my house on York St.
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I can also say is that as long as people are reporting property crimes, they go into COMPSTAT, which AFAIK shows no indication of a major increase in property crimes.


Do you have a link for COMPSTAT property crime figures? The COMPSTAT link on the JCPD website only shows serious crimes. Or, did I miss something?

Here's a typical monthly COMPSTAT report. It includes robberies, broken down by method (armed, unarmed); aggravated assault, including unarmed; burglary, forced and unforced entries; and motor vehicle theft, including attempts.

http://www.njjcpd.org/sites/default/files/Sept2016.pdf

I don't know which category includes breaking into a car to steal a GPS or stereo. I think that qualifies as "burglary." Unsuccessful attempts might not be included in COMPSTAT.


Thanks. That's one of the same reports I was perusing earlier. It is not at all clear (to me, at least) how property crimes fit into any of those categories (let's say, for example, graffiti, or a broken window as part of a malicious act, such as a bottle flung into someone's home) so I wasn't sure if those were tallied elsewhere. It is an interesting stat for which I would like to see hard numbers. Surely it is tallied somewhere, as other sites seem to publish figures for that, such as the city-data site.


I'm afraid that's beyond my knowledge. I believe COMPSTAT's categories is limited by the software, as NYC uses the same ones.

FWIW, I haven't seen any evidence of rising vandalism in DTJC.

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Re: Car stolen from front of my house on York St.
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As a side note, any one know where I can find information of the shooting incident? I did a quick Google search but did not find anything.

I'd start with http://www.nj.com/hudson/

If they tell you what city it's in, maybe the police blotter will say something.

If it were me, I think I'd rather not know.

I'd check with the insurance company, and see what's involved in getting them to classify it as a total loss. Hopefully they'll work with you on it.

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Re: Car stolen from front of my house on York St.
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I can also say is that as long as people are reporting property crimes, they go into COMPSTAT, which AFAIK shows no indication of a major increase in property crimes.


Do you have a link for COMPSTAT property crime figures? The COMPSTAT link on the JCPD website only shows serious crimes. Or, did I miss something?

Here's a typical monthly COMPSTAT report. It includes robberies, broken down by method (armed, unarmed); aggravated assault, including unarmed; burglary, forced and unforced entries; and motor vehicle theft, including attempts.

http://www.njjcpd.org/sites/default/files/Sept2016.pdf

I don't know which category includes breaking into a car to steal a GPS or stereo. I think that qualifies as "burglary." Unsuccessful attempts might not be included in COMPSTAT.

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Re: Car stolen from front of my house on York St.
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I'm not going to argue numbers with you. To anybody who has been the victim of a break-in (I was in the past year), stats won't change your personal perception of something you've experienced firsthand.

In other words: "Don't bother me with the facts!"

It makes sense that on a personal level, after being victimized by crime, you won't feel safe.

However, it is completely irrational to say that because you personally were the victim of crime, that "JC is experiencing a crime wave." If anything, you have an obligation to realize that your unfortunate experience is biasing your perceptions.


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It's made worse by my experience - and that of others - that the JCPD doesn't give a shit and will expend zero effort to investigate property crimes.

I can't say anything about JCPD's conduct, except that I doubt it's changed over the past ~10 years, during which time property crimes have substantially dropped.

I can also say is that as long as people are reporting property crimes, they go into COMPSTAT, which AFAIK shows no indication of a major increase in property crimes.

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Re: Car stolen from front of my house on York St.
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Time to be less politically correct and more on guard. If something looks suspicious act on those senses...if they still exist.

Unless I'm reading it wrong, the OP's car got robbed in the middle of the night. Was he or she supposed to be suspicious while sleeping?

Are we supposed to call the police because we see someone with dark skin wandering around the neighborhood?

Should we only call the police if the person smashing the car window has dark skin?

Crime rates have dropped almost every year since at least 2002, if not earlier. Should the reductions in crime generate more fear of crime? You do realize that's kind of backwards, yes?


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Less rental properties and absentee landlords would assist in this situation as well.

Uh, no. It won't make any difference whatsoever.

Home owners don't stay up until 6AM, sitting on their stoop with a shotgun in their arms, making sure no one steals their car. An occupant is an occupant, a resident is a resident.

I have never seen the tiniest scrap of data that correlates crime rates and home ownership rates. Where do you get ideas like that?

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Re: Car stolen from front of my house on York St.
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I've been in JC 14 years now, and property crime seems to be much worse downtown than I've ever seen it.

It isn't. It's not even close.

Burglaries have dropped in half since 2002. Thefts are down by 25%, auto thefts by about 66%, robberies are less than half their peak in 2005.

http://www.city-data.com/crime/crime-Jersey-City-New-Jersey.html


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JCPD has warned of a surge in bicycle thefts this past year.

OK, and...? It's not like bike theft is a new crime.


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Anecdotally, I'm hearing of more people experiencing burglaries and break-ins.

Anecdotes are completely meaningless when it comes to crime.

They don't give you objective numbers, they don't properly identify trends, and perceptions of crime are way out of whack with the reality.

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Re: Car stolen from front of my house on York St.
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Personally, I think this incident speaks volumes about two things of concern:
- much of DTJC has been lulled into a false sense of security....

Or, crime rates are in fact significantly lower than in the past.

Auto thefts in JC
2002: 2296
2013: 738
2016 through September: 390

Although I concur DTJC is far from crime-free, people feel more safe because... Jersey City IS more safe.


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- I'm afraid we are witnessing the beginning of an economic downturn based in the recent uptick in petty crime and the increasing number of people showing up at local soup kitchens.

1) Keeping in mind that I haven't pored over the COMPSTAT figures, I don't see any indication that there is a significant increase in crime in JC in 2016.

2) I haven't seen any indication of an impending economic downturn, either national, or regional, or local.

3) There is no correlation between economic downturns, and either petty crime or soup kitchen utilization. They certainly don't act as leading indicators.

See for yourself. Let me know which type of crime, in your opinion, forecast -- or increased because of -- the 2008 recession.
http://www.city-data.com/crime/crime-Jersey-City-New-Jersey.html

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Re: Tractor trailer crashes into gazebo in Hamilton Park
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AlexC wrote:
still, even though he drove slowly, there might be someone who got run over?

At 10pm, he could have run someone over.


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can we make this political, like every stupid thread in JCList?

Pass

However, if it is true that other drivers have gone over the curb and directly into the park, then it might not be a bad idea to put in a removable bollard or two.

Posted on: 12/11 20:26
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Re: Tractor trailer crashes into gazebo in Hamilton Park
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HamSandwichPark wrote:
Driver said he did it on purpose. Wtf???

People say crazy things when they, uh, do crazy things ;)

I don't recall hearing anything about vehicles driving straight into the park, though.

Posted on: 12/9 18:52
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