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Why is it not possible to be all of the above? It seems to be the most logical, given all the evidence, that the man was gay, struggled with it, sunk into an extreme for of Islam after being raised in a house of very conservative Islam (as Mao likes to call "traditional") and became a terrorist. It's been reported that the guy went on dates with men. It's known that he was on gay dating websites. It's known that he's been going to the club for years, not just a few trips to scope it out.
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New bipartisan Pac calls on Trump to 'release the measurements' of his hands https://www.donaldtrumphastinyhands.com/ "Donald Trump has refused to release his hand measurements, despite calls from a ?bipartisan? group for the billionaire to reveal details of his finger length and palm girth. The Americans Against Insecure Billionaires with Tiny Hands Pac is running a television advert titled Release the Measurements, which features Americans expressing concern over Trump?s ability to serve as president. ?If the White House phone rings at 3am, would his little hands even pick up the receiver?? a woman asks. ?How can he create jobs if his hands are too small to shake on the deal?? says another. ?When he decides to launch his nuclear war, will his stubby fingers even be able to push the button all the way down?? comes another query."
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"While ISIS death squads enforce an extreme version of Islam that punishes gays with death, the religion's history is far more nuanced. And like most relationships, when it comes to Islam and homosexuality ? it's complicated." NBC Apologists for Islam's terror against Gays describes the relationship as "nuanced". Priceless. If I was a Gay couple... I would not be visiting a Muslim country anytime soon. Gays should really be upset that the DOJ is trying to make Orlando a Gay on Gay crime, rather than calling it what it is.
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It's a shame Corey Lewandowski was kicked off of the Trump Show - YOU'RE FIRED - and ESCORTED FROM THE BUILDING! Trump brings reality TV to the next level!
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Epstein is MUCH better known for his association with Mr. Hillary.
http://observer.com/2015/03/the-jeffr ... s-presidential-prospects/
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Nothing to do with this thread but as on topic as the two prior posts -
California woman files lawsuit against Donald Trump for rape http://gothamist.com/2016/06/20/trump_rape_lawsuit.php A federal lawsuit filed Monday in New York accuses Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump of repeatedly raping a 13-year-old girl more than 20 years ago, at several Upper East Side parties hosted by convicted sex offender and notorious billionaire investor Jeffrey Epstein. The suit, first reported by the Real Deal, accuses Trump and Epstein of luring the anonymous plaintiff and other young women to four parties at Epstein's so-called Wexner Mansion at 9 East 71st Street. Epstein allegedly lured the plaintiff, identified in the suit only as Jane Doe, with promises of a modeling career and cash. Another anonymous woman, identified in additional testimony as Tiffany Doe, corroborates Jane's allegations, testifying that she met Epstein at Port Authority, where he hired her to recruit other young girls for his parties. Trump had known Epstein for seven years in 1994 when he attended the parties at Wexner, according to the suit. He also allegedly knew that the plaintiff was 13 years old. Jane Doe filed a similar suit in California in April, under the name Katie Johnson, also accusing Trump and Epstein of rape. That suit was dismissed on the grounds of improper paperwork?the address affiliated with her name was found to be abandoned. Today's suit confirms that the plaintiffs are one and the same. Monday's complaint details extremely violent and horrific alleged encounters between Trump and Doe. In what Doe's attorneys describe as a "savage sexual attack," Trump allegedly tied her to a bed and exposed himself before raping her. When she pleaded that he stop, Trump allegedly "responded... by violently striking Plaintiff in the face with his open hand and screaming that he would do whatever he wanted," according to the suit. Afterwards, Trump allegedly threatened the plaintiff, saying that her family would be "physically harmed if not killed" if she were to speak about the abuses. Epstein allegedly proceeded to rape Doe twice more, attempted to strike her, and screamed that he, rather than Trump, should have taken her virginity. Epstein also allegedly reiterated threats to Doe's family. Doe remained silent for many years, according to court papers, because she had no reason to believe that the threats against her and her family had been lifted. The constant media spotlight on Trump, taxing her emotionally and mentally since last summer, apparently pushed her to come forward. Monday's civil complaint makes the case that New York's statute of limitations?five years for civil rape cases?should be waived, because the plaintiff was denied her "freedom of will" to speak. Doe demands $75,000 in damages, according to the complaint, as well as attorneys fees and an order of protection against Trump and "such other and further relief as the Court may deem just and proper." Trump's campaign did not immediately respond to a request for comment on Doe's allegations, but the candidate denied the claims in the California suit this Spring. ?The allegations are not only categorically false, but disgusting at the highest level and clearly framed to solicit media attention or, perhaps, are simply politically motivated,? he told Radar. The Donald also raped his wife according to sworn deposition - http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/t ... donald-on-raping-his-wife
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Grandad 1 is a convicted swindler/ex-con, Grandad 2 is a former POTUS who was impeached and disbarred. The chats around the Thanksgiving table must be epic!
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Wow I just saw this..... Lewinsky allegedly freaked out at Clinton?s affair with Mondale?s daughter By Daniel Halper June 18, 2016 | 11:37pm http://nypost.com/2016/06/18/monica-l ... that-bill-cheated-on-her/ .
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And don't forget the first female presidential candidate also has the full force of the US News Media and Hollywood backing her for free. And of course Goldman Sachs and the rest of Wall Street are her biggest contributors and benefactors. Just like the Arkansas Hillbillies turned the Lincoln Bedroom into a boarding room for extra special fundraisers... imagine what they will do now that they have the Clinton Foundation to laundry money. They may have left the WH dead broke with WH Cutlery in their carpetbags, they comeback as ultimate 1%ers.
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News flash-FBI continuing criminal investigations of Hillary Clinton, and news of Mr. Hillary screwing Walter Mondale's daughter Eleanor in the White House overshadows the birth of their grandson, and the grandson of convicted Wall St swindler/felon Mezvinsky.
Posted on: 2016/6/20 23:32
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It's over. It's beautiful. It's great. It's huge. It's terrific. Let me tell you folks ya are going to be sick of it. Donald Trump Parts Ways With Controversial Campaign Manager Corey Lewandowski Michael Caputo, a Trump adviser and head of the communications for Trump's caucus operations team, tweeted "Ding Dong the witch is dead" following the news that Lewandowski had been fired. Today in ?Donald Trump?s Campaign Is a Garbage Fire? Trump?s campaign, reports the Associated Press, has 30 paid staff on the ground across the United States of America. That is a smaller number than the Hillary Clinton campaign has in many states. Clinton?s massive ground advantage is supplemented by an even more massive television-advertising advantage. Dump Trumpers Think They Need Just 57 Votes To Win Anti-Trump Republican delegates want a ?conscience? clause as an out from any obligation to vote for him.
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I think Obama saying the phrase "Islamic Terror" indicates they he understand the scope and objectives of these killers. At the moment Obama says things that are 180 degrees out of sync with what his senior intelligence people are telling Congress. He never use the phrase because his 7 1/2 years of a Clinton/Kerry foreign policy would be a failure when you look at the havoc ISIS etc have brought to the world. J. Edgar Hoover said right up to his death that there was no such thing Organized Crime, Murder Inc. or La Costa Nostra.
@ WhoElseCouldItBe You still did not answer the question, so I will ask it again: Having the President saying the words "Islamic terrorism" solves what problem? Tell me how it will work.[/quote]
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Now if we can get the Obama Administration off the big lie they and the media floated.... " A mentally unbalanced gay man was responsible for murdering 49 members of their community. I am surprised the Gay Community has been so silent, but I will say that is such an insulting and offensive premise. Bordering on blame the victims. The SOB was not cruising bars... he was stalking hi prey, preparing for that bloody night. I can't speak for the Gay Community but as an American Citizen I can express my disgust with the WH trying to shade or change the truth to protect their failure after 2 MCIs in 8 months by self avowed Muslim Terrorists.
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Mao, did you think the spread of Christianity ended with Christ or even his direct disciples? In this country alone, is there only one brand of Christianity? There are many forms and there are many founders, just as there are many sects and denominations in other world religions. Religion has a funny way of branching out, so yeah if believers of Islam claim they are sons of Abraham then take it up with them.
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Finally, Obama gets humiliated as his DOJ gets forced to walk back the shameful censoring of the Islamic terrorist phone messages. The normally obedient mass media was forced to recognize the anger across America over this deliberate attempt to downplay Islamic terrorism and make it about 'gun control'. Of course, the fact that the Islamic terrorist was able to get by 2 FBI investigations puts paid to the demands for more gun control (and to the vetting process-we can't figure this guy out, yet we want to 'vet' hundreds of thousands of Muslims with no paper trail?)
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Dear Drfter:
Well, I have come to have a very dark understanding of Islam. I started out as a religious studies major at Bowdoin, uber politically correct place, where the line you espouse was doctrine. However, I don't think that is correct. I think it false to describe Islam as Abrahamic. Current scholarship indicates that it was an ideology created to cover plunder. Judaism is high moralistic. Christianity inherited that as well as a radical other worldliness. The Church is full of sinners but Christ is the Victim. The apostles preached the Gospel. What "saintly founders" of Christianity do you want to implicate? Mao
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wow.....
Foxnews 6/20/2016: "Under pressure from Republican leaders, the Justice Department on Monday afternoon reversed itself and released a full, unredacted transcript of the Orlando terrorist's 911 call on the night of the massacre, calling the morning?s furor over omissions in the document ?an unnecessary distraction.? An earlier version of the transcript had deleted the word ?Islamic State? and the name of ISIS leader ?Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi.? Omar Mateen made the 50-second 911 call in which he claimed responsibility for the terror attack and pledged allegiance to Islamic State's leader at 2:35 a.m. The call came just over a half hour into the June 12 slaughter at gay nightclub Pulse. ?I pledge allegiance to Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi may God protect him [in Arabic], on behalf of the Islamic State,? Mateen says on the new transcript. The old version had several words scrubbed and read: "I pledge allegiance to [omitted] may God protect him [in Arabic], on behalf of [omitted]."
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Mao, when you say they "subscribe to a kinder more humane Islam," that is still Islam, is it not? Sure, some of them can be irreligious but of the vast majority who are living their lives in peace and are often the victims of the nutjobs who want to use their religion to do evil, are you trying to say they are not really Muslim?
All the Abrahamic religions are tied to violence historically, why are you singling out Islam? Some versions of Christianity don't have saintly founders either, so what gives? As for the terrible things, I think we can also come up with some extreme examples too if we take Islam out of it. Just in this country alone, there have been more mass shootings that have nothing to do with Islam.
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Not sure why the Left always resorts to ad hominems. Not that the right does not do it too, but if one did a study I think one would see that the Left wins in that regard hands down. Speaking clearly and directly and honestly is generally helpful. Obfuscating to point of it being Orwellian is the problem. Most of the right, and Donald Trump (who is not a conservative), wrongly assert that Islam is fine but only a mutant strain is violent. But a But Islamic Terrorism is something we should all be able to agree to use. It described terrorists who are Islamic and who claim to be inspired by Islam. But, you know, historic Islam is intimately tied to violence. The consensus is that it is a religion, real more an ideology, invented after the Arab conquest of portions of the Byzantine Empire. See Luxenbourg, Christoph, The Syro Aramaic Reading of the Koran. Or for a more accessible introduction read Spencer, Robert, Did Mohammed Exist. The invented Mohammed in the Hadiths is a violent brigand and sexual predator. What kind of an ideology invents such a founder/hero? While the vast majority of Muslims seem to want to just live out their lives and support and love their families, it is because either they are irreligious or subscribe to a kinder more humane Islam. People everywhere do terrible things. However, the most extreme examples that we see day in and day out (blowing up the twin towers, suicide bombers, beheading children, burning churches, raping and kidnapping girls, mutilating the genitals of women, sodomizing boys) either get an endorsement from aspects central to Islam or are an integral part of Islamic culture. Mao
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You still did not answer the question, so I will ask it again: Having the President saying the words "Islamic terrorism" solves what problem? Tell me how it will work.
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Frank, you are trying to inject sense and logic to a senseless argument. Stop. Their heads might just explode.
As for the gun debate, all I have to say is that would be terrorists can actually obtain guns legally in this country. Perhaps there is something that can be done about that first, and worry about how they can obtain it illegally later. At the very least, we should have control on how we legally do things, right?
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I obviously can't speak for the President, but I can speak to how little sense that makes. Nazism was not "misappropriated" in an effort to rationalize a violent agenda. It was already a foul ideology. This doesn't need any further explanation. Islam, on the other hand, is a religion practiced by almost a quarter of the world's population, 99.9999%+ of whom are peaceful. It is only an extremely small percentage of individuals in this vast, worldwide group who are guilty of fraudulently misappropriating Islam in order to rationalize their antagonism. It is because they absolutely do not represent Islam that we should avoid granting them the supposed association. Why lend credence to an enemy's misguided beliefs? Does that seem wise to you?
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Oh you haven't heard, on Tuesday the DOJ will clear the air about 9-11. They will claim that 2 airliners did not strike the towers and as evidence to support that announcement, they will run the video just before impact backwards. And Lynch will then ask, "Who are you going to believe? Me or your lying eyes!"
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And now we know the Islamic terrorist was suspended from school for cheering after the 9/11 attacks.
Yup, it's the NRA's fault. Wait, is there an NRA in France? How did the Islamic terrorists in France get guns, they don't have a 2nd Amendment.
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http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vide ... nces_to_isis_cut_out.html Yup... we are going to ignore them. Obama and his people are despicable. They are creating revisionist history right before our eyes. This will be the official record for ever. How do they live with themselves. This is a public admission of the guilt of this Muslim Terrorist because they know their attempt make this into a Gay on Gay murder is not believable and the family has to many connections to Clinton State Department and other areas of the administration. Minimally this is a major embarrassment to the Administration, but in all likelihood there is probably something worse they are trying to cover-up. And the media will go along with this because the bastard is dead, there will be no trial so edited tapes (evidence tampering) would not be a concern to the court. Go Trump!
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I didn't say that (logical fallacy - straw man's argument) Feel free to answer the question, at your convenience.
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Perhaps if we ignore them, they will just go away????
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Again, saying the words "Islamic terrorism" solves what problem? Tell me how it will work.
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The Islamic terrorists don't hesitate to identify themselves as such, much like Nazi's did.
Would Obama have a problem calling a Nazi a Nazi? 'Disaffected Germans' maybe?
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So, if Obama says "Islamic terrorist", then terrorism decreases? Please explain, because I'm not following. And since the odds of dying from terrorism are extremely low, if you're scared of this happening to you, how do you leave the house? You're much more likely to die in a car accident.. or even a slip and fall.
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