mfadam wrote:
does anyone know what type of camera Sean Popke used to film the intersection?

I am not exactly tech savvy but can learn. iPhone, other? Thanks for any ideas on best way to do something similar...

macguy wrote:
Here was the response:

I know Erie stinks (though it is better than it was I'd argue based on feedback I've gotten) the real solution there is to divert cut through traffic away from downtown (which is a project the state promised in mid 1980s). 30% of cars are using our streets as short cut to Holland tunnel.

mfadam wrote:
does anyone know what type of camera Sean Popke used to film the intersection?

I am not exactly tech savvy but can learn. iPhone, other? Thanks for any ideas on best way to do something similar...

brewster wrote:
This post is in response to the "Man crossing Jersey City street struck and killed by off-duty Jersey City cop", but this thread is where it belongs.

As I drove around my neighborhood recently I was pondering that a full grid of all way stops at every single intersection and speed humps everywhere, which is where we're headed, is not usual in areas of our density. Hoboken seems to function and does not do this, there's plenty of streets that go many blocks without a stop, and there few humps, only by the projects. The answer to the puzzle is we don't have a street design problem, we have an enforcement problem. There's simply no credible threat to aggressive & speeding drivers.

I was heading S on Coles a couple of days ago when a car ran the stop at 15th st in front of me, then ran the stop at 10th making a left. I'm not talking about failure to completely stop, this was not even a tap. This driver had no fear at all there would be a cop to ticket them. We've all seen this. No amount of new stops will solve this problem. The scofflaw driver culture in JC needs an intervention.

brewster wrote:
This post is in response to the "Man crossing Jersey City street struck and killed by off-duty Jersey City cop", but this thread is where it belongs.

As I drove around my neighborhood recently I was pondering that a full grid of all way stops at every single intersection and speed humps everywhere, which is where we're headed, is not usual in areas of our density. Hoboken seems to function and does not do this, there's plenty of streets that go many blocks without a stop, and there few humps, only by the projects. The answer to the puzzle is we don't have a street design problem, we have an enforcement problem. There's simply no credible threat to aggressive & speeding drivers.

I was heading S on Coles a couple of days ago when a car ran the stop at 15th st in front of me, then ran the stop at 10th making a left. I'm not talking about failure to completely stop, this was not even a tap. This driver had no fear at all there would be a cop to ticket them. We've all seen this. No amount of new stops will solve this problem. The scofflaw driver culture in JC needs an intervention.

trambone wrote:
It could be an immigration issue. As there are many 1st generation immigrants in Jersey City, even if they are educated. Traffic laws are much more lax in other countries or not enforced and they bring those rules with them.

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CandiceOsborne wrote:
Then the work from people like @jccrap on twitter who is already taking the pics could be utilized.

Hilarious. NJ Transit employee Doug Ensell, aka @jerseycitycrap, DevB, SteveWilson29, SteveWilson55 etc. has no problem breaking the law when it suits him.

mfadam wrote:
so should kids be riding bikes on the street in JC?

The bike lanes create a false sense of security and cars routinely cut into them to avoid potholes and double parked cars. Cyclists are the last thing the average moron is thinking about as they gun it thru JC streets.

I have no problem with bikes on sidewalks if they are riding safely. I ride on JC streets a lot and it is not for the faint of heart or inexperienced rider.

T-Bird wrote:
(Bonus points if you can also do something about bikes on sidewalks. It's just a matter of time before someone is seriously hurt or killed while walking on a sidewalk after being run into by a jackass on a bike.)

CandiceOsborne wrote:
Then the work from people like @jccrap on twitter who is already taking the pics could be utilized.

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OneSkirt wrote:
Councilwoman, with all due respect, this is not a traffic engineering problem at this intersection. It is very clearly marked to STOP in multiple places, fresh paint etc. Plain and simple, this is a lack of enforcement issue, and its a problem city wide. Until this Administrations gets SERIOUS about consistent (and consistency is the key) as DeBlasio has gotten in NYC with his VISION ZERO program, Jersey City will never ever be the one of the 'best mid-sized cities in America.

I lived by this intersection, and around dtjc for 17 year and this behavior has been going on for at least that long (its not new). Now 4 yrs of living on JFK Blvd. which is a MONSTER speedway under JCPD enforcement jurisdiction. We've have numerous fatalities in recent year. This is a violent way to die and we should not have to live with such fears walking around our neighborhoods, just like we should not have to fear gun violence happening to us.

15+% of all murders in JC last year were caused by car cashes. THESE ARE VIOLENT CRIMES, and the whole administration needs to get on it city-wide and treat them as such. Criminals also drive and its proven that consistent police traffic enforcement not only makes roads safer, but boots police presence and deters other often more violent crime.

We need to demand a change as a city, neighbors. I applaud these residents for getting the attention. Let's see what the follow through is. I'd love to work with them.

Kara Hrabosky
President, Duncan Ave Neighborhood Association

So I am the one who requested the stop sign at that location a few years ago because it was right by a park. I agree there is an enforcement issue (all over downtown) but there are also some traffic and engineering issues too (at least according to the T&E department who have two new employees and rattled off 10 things they want to change about i when I raised it to them Thursday.) That is why I mentioned both.

While that location ia bad, we have a systemic issue with pedestrian safety downtown. I wrote a long letter to the public safety director, mayor chief of staff and business adminstrator requesting a task force to look at the problem holistically with a proactive plan versus reacting location by location. They agreed to add it as a special project on the mayors task force (which includes reps from police) and are kicking it off on Monday.

The current state is, I believe, out of control.

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brewster wrote:
Hey, you know where people actually stopped, where there were traffic cameras!! How about creating a new class of "public safety" officers armed with a cheap hi-def camera. Let them stand in plainclothes at intersections and video cars for "no-points" traffic fines, including failure to stop, illegal use of turn lanes and gridlocking. Paying someone $30/hr to write at least 10-20 $100 tickets an hour seems like a no brainer. Yes there's the back office work, but it still should be cost effective.

Why insist law enforcement use only eyeballs and 1970's technology unless you like the status quo?

Yes, this! I have been brainstorming something similar: an app that solicits resident sourced video/image for parking that gives rewards of some type to residents who submit actionable stuff. Then the work from people like @jccrap on twitter who is already taking the pics could be utilized.

Think you will run in to all the same roadblocks as with red light cameras: state approval, non-police involvement in issuing traffic violation tickets, possible video tampering, backlash from the motorist's lobby...

Partnering with the insurers, or a business like Carfax, would be the better way to go. Pretty sure the insurers would pay for video data on bad drivers - just need set up the right venture.

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brewster wrote:
Hey, you know where people actually stopped, where there were traffic cameras!! How about creating a new class of "public safety" officers armed with a cheap hi-def camera. Let them stand in plainclothes at intersections and video cars for "no-points" traffic fines, including failure to stop, illegal use of turn lanes and gridlocking. Paying someone $30/hr to write at least 10-20 $100 tickets an hour seems like a no brainer. Yes there's the back office work, but it still should be cost effective.

Why insist law enforcement use only eyeballs and 1970's technology unless you like the status quo?

Yes, this! I have been brainstorming something similar: an app that solicits resident sourced video/image for parking that gives rewards of some type to residents who submit actionable stuff. Then the work from people like @jccrap on twitter who is already taking the pics could be utilized.

Think you will run in to all the same roadblocks as with red light cameras: state approval, non-police involvement in issuing traffic violation tickets, possible video tampering, backlash from the motorist's lobby...

Partnering with the insurers, or a business like Carfax, would be the better way to go. Pretty sure the insurers would pay for video data on bad drivers - just need set up the right venture.

CandiceOsborne wrote:
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brewster wrote:
Hey, you know where people actually stopped, where there were traffic cameras!! How about creating a new class of "public safety" officers armed with a cheap hi-def camera. Let them stand in plainclothes at intersections and video cars for "no-points" traffic fines, including failure to stop, illegal use of turn lanes and gridlocking. Paying someone $30/hr to write at least 10-20 $100 tickets an hour seems like a no brainer. Yes there's the back office work, but it still should be cost effective.

Why insist law enforcement use only eyeballs and 1970's technology unless you like the status quo?

Yes, this! I have been brainstorming something similar: an app that solicits resident sourced video/image for parking that gives rewards of some type to residents who submit actionable stuff. Then the work from people like @jccrap on twitter who is already taking the pics could be utilized.

brewster wrote:
Hey, you know where people actually stopped, where there were traffic cameras!! How about creating a new class of "public safety" officers armed with a cheap hi-def camera. Let them stand in plainclothes at intersections and video cars for "no-points" traffic fines, including failure to stop, illegal use of turn lanes and gridlocking. Paying someone $30/hr to write at least 10-20 $100 tickets an hour seems like a no brainer. Yes there's the back office work, but it still should be cost effective.

Why insist law enforcement use only eyeballs and 1970's technology unless you like the status quo?

OneSkirt wrote:
Councilwoman, with all due respect, this is not a traffic engineering problem at this intersection. It is very clearly marked to STOP in multiple places, fresh paint etc. Plain and simple, this is a lack of enforcement issue, and its a problem city wide. Until this Administrations gets SERIOUS about consistent (and consistency is the key) as DeBlasio has gotten in NYC with his VISION ZERO program, Jersey City will never ever be the one of the 'best mid-sized cities in America.

I lived by this intersection, and around dtjc for 17 year and this behavior has been going on for at least that long (its not new). Now 4 yrs of living on JFK Blvd. which is a MONSTER speedway under JCPD enforcement jurisdiction. We've have numerous fatalities in recent year. This is a violent way to die and we should not have to live with such fears walking around our neighborhoods, just like we should not have to fear gun violence happening to us.

15+% of all murders in JC last year were caused by car cashes. THESE ARE VIOLENT CRIMES, and the whole administration needs to get on it city-wide and treat them as such. Criminals also drive and its proven that consistent police traffic enforcement not only makes roads safer, but boots police presence and deters other often more violent crime.

We need to demand a change as a city, neighbors. I applaud these residents for getting the attention. Let's see what the follow through is. I'd love to work with them.

Kara Hrabosky
President, Duncan Ave Neighborhood Association