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Interesting the media picked up it was just a hate crime against gays because of what the father said. He said his son recently saw two men kiss in Miami and it set him off and it had nothing to do with his religious beliefs. Well now CNN is reporting the terrorist was trying to buy body armor weeks ago. Also don?t you think the terrorist would have seen two man kissing before in Florida many times over the years?

PS ? the father thinks he is the exiled President of Afghanistan. Hmmm.

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TheBigGuy wrote:
Once again you Global Jihad Muslim Terror deniers start mixing up two issues... There is an external threat and there is an internal threat. It is obvious the Obama Administration can not manage the internal threat and their solution is to thousands more of the external threat completely. We know what the problem is and temporary measures to get control of the immigration issue will provide relief while we get control of the internal jihadi threat.


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and how would donald have managed to root out mateen? a lone wolf. please get outta here with your scaremongering?

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TheBigGuy wrote:
Once again you Global Jihad Muslim Terror deniers start mixing up two issues... There is an external threat and there is an internal threat. It is obvious the Obama Administration can not manage the internal threat and their solution is to thousands more of the external threat completely. We know what the problem is and temporary measures to get control of the immigration issue will provide relief while we get control of the internal jihadi threat.


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and how would donald have managed to root out mateen? a lone wolf. please get outta here with your scaremongering?

Interesting the media picked up it was just a hate crime against gays because of what the father said. He said his son recently saw two men kiss in Miami and it set him off and it had nothing to do with his religious beliefs. Well now CNN is reporting the terrorist was trying to buy body armor weeks ago. Also don?t you think the terrorist would have seen two man kissing before in Florida many times over the years?

PS ? the father thinks he is the exiled President of Afghanistan. Hmmm.

TheBigGuy wrote:
Once again you Global Jihad Muslim Terror deniers start mixing up two issues... There is an external threat and there is an internal threat. It is obvious the Obama Administration can not manage the internal threat and their solution is to thousands more of the external threat completely. We know what the problem is and temporary measures to get control of the immigration issue will provide relief while we get control of the internal jihadi threat.


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dtjcview wrote:
Anti-LGBT and anti-Islamic rhetoric unhinged this mentally disturbed individual.

More like he watched the anti-US and pro-Taliban tv shows his father stars in.

And what is more anti-LGBT than Islam?

Do you even know what bipolar means - aside from the sorry state of US politics?

A deranged US citizen, walks into a crowded club with an assault rifle, kills 50+ people, and the blame is on Islam?

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dtjcview wrote:
Anti-LGBT and anti-Islamic rhetoric unhinged this mentally disturbed individual.

More like he watched the anti-US and pro-Taliban tv shows his father stars in.

And what is more anti-LGBT than Islam?

Yet the old man was just on the news stating he knew nothing of this and would not condone such activity that his son executed.

And you'd expect him to say otherwise?

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dtjcview wrote:
Anti-LGBT and anti-Islamic rhetoric unhinged this mentally disturbed individual.

Pretty cut and dry, you make it sound like an isolated incident. A nd just think of those that have been outed including the families of the deceased.

Of course this will be how the cover-up plays out, roll out the Father and the ex-wife...The Feds have this guy (twice) and no doubt political correctness played a role in letting this guy walk. They had the older brother from the Boston Bomber Brothers too. See something say something. Red Flags all over this guy who works for a professional security company. Red Flags all over the Army Doctor Killer at Fort Hood. And remember it is the Feds also investigating all of the thousands of "refugees" coming into country.

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dtjcview wrote:
Anti-LGBT and anti-Islamic rhetoric unhinged this mentally disturbed individual.

More like he watched the anti-US and pro-Taliban tv shows his father stars in.

And what is more anti-LGBT than Islam?

Do you even know what bipolar means - aside from the sorry state of US politics?

A deranged US citizen, walks into a crowded club with an assault rifle, kills 50+ people, and the blame is on Islam?

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dtjcview wrote:
Anti-LGBT and anti-Islamic rhetoric unhinged this mentally disturbed individual.

More like he watched the anti-US and pro-Taliban tv shows his father stars in.

And what is more anti-LGBT than Islam?

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dtjcview wrote:
Anti-LGBT and anti-Islamic rhetoric unhinged this mentally disturbed individual.

More like he watched the anti-US and pro-Taliban tv shows his father stars in.

And what is more anti-LGBT than Islam?

Yet the old man was just on the news stating he knew nothing of this and would not condone such activity that his son executed.

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dtjcview wrote:
Anti-LGBT and anti-Islamic rhetoric unhinged this mentally disturbed individual.

More like he watched the anti-US and pro-Taliban tv shows his father stars in.

And what is more anti-LGBT than Islam?

dtjcview wrote:
Anti-LGBT and anti-Islamic rhetoric unhinged this mentally disturbed individual.

heights wrote:
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dtjcview wrote:
Anti-LGBT and anti-Islamic rhetoric unhinged this mentally disturbed individual.

Pretty cut and dry, you make it sound like an isolated incident. A nd just think of those that have been outed including the families of the deceased.

dtjcview wrote:
Anti-LGBT and anti-Islamic rhetoric unhinged this mentally disturbed individual.

Asif wrote:
Republicans Are Erasing LGBTQ People From Their Own Tragedy




In the wake of the mass shooting at Pulse, an LGBTQ nightclub in Orlando, Florida, both Republican and Democratic politicians took to Twitter to express their condolences. Because the massacre appears to have targeted sexual minorities, this created a somewhat surreal effect: The sight of GOP politicians?some of the same ones who have devoted much of their careers fighting to deprive gays of their civil rights?sympathizing with the very people whom they have long bashed in a bid for conservative votes. Consider Sen. Marco Rubio:

Rubio is a staunch opponent of same-sex marriage and would like to overturn the Supreme Court?s ruling affirming gay people?s constitutional right to wed. Worse, when Rubio served as Florida?s House majority leader, the state?s foster care system was in a crisis: Due to a severe lack of foster parents, children were essentially being imprisoned in inhumane conditions. One possible solution would be to lift Florida?s ban on allowing gay people to foster children. Rubio rejected the idea. ?Some of these kids are the most disadvantaged in the state,? he explained. ?They shouldn't be forced to be part of a social experiment.?

Even more surreally, see former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee:

But if it were up to Huckabee, gay people would not be legally permitted to start their own families. Huckabee staunchly opposes same-sex marriage, civil unions, and gay adoption. In explaining his opposition to gay adoption in particular, he declared, ?Children are not puppies. This is not a time to see if we can experiment and find out, how does this work?? At various points in his career, Huckabee has also said that AIDS patients should be quarantined; that homosexuality is a ?lifestyle? similar to drinking alcohol; and that legalizing same-sex marriage is analogous to legalizing incest and drug use. When the Supreme Court invalidated a federal same-sex marriage ban, Huckabee tweeted: ?Jesus wept.?

There are many more examples of aggressively anti-gay politicians tweeting about the Pulse shooting, but one common thread ties them together: None of them mention that the shooting targeted, or even involved, the LGBTQ community. Indeed, not a single congressional Republican who tweeted about the shooting mentioned LGBTQ people. That stands in stark contrast to President Barack Obama?s clear assertion that ?shooter targeted a nightclub? where ?lesbian, gay, bisexual, or transgender people ?came together to be with friends, to dance, sing, and live,? and ?to raise awareness and speak their minds and advocate for their civil rights.?

Republicans? silence is actually quite apt. As a party, after all, the GOP has spent decades attempting to degrade sexual minorities and even drive them out of public life. It is altogether fitting, then, that conservative politicians are erasing LGBTQ people from their own tragedy. The gesture of support, I suppose, is basically benevolent. But let?s be clear about this: The 50 victims of Orlando?s LGBTQ nightclub massacre died as full and equal citizens under the law in spite of the Republican party?s best efforts to relegate them to second-class citizenship.

Read more from Slate on the Orlando nightclub shooting.

Mark Joseph Stern is a writer for Slate. He covers the law and LGBTQ issues.

Asif wrote:
Wow. Loss for words about your assumptions/hate......

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JCMan8 attack that your religion caused

JCMan8 attack that your religion caused

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Graham_(computer_programmer)

Graham's Hierarchy of Disagreement lists name calling as the lowest type of argument in a disagreement.
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TheBigGuy wrote:
Hey Stupid.... your point is what??? An Imam In Orlando is quoted as saying the it is "compassionate" to kill gay people and put them out of their misery.... after the tweet did someone run out and shoot up a mosque? F'Off Fool!


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Anti-LGBT Texas Lt. Gov. Tweets: ?Man Reaps What He Sows?

Dan Patrick, the anti-LGBT lieutenant governor of Texas, tweeted the biblical phrase ?man reaps what he sows? hours after an attack on a gay nightclub in Florida killed at least 50 people.

Patrick, a Republican, introduced legislation to force transgender students to use the bathroom of the gender listed on their birth certificates. ?The one who sows to please his flesh, from the flesh will reap destruction,? the passage from Galatians 6:7 continues.

According to a Patrick spokesperson, the tweet was ?pre-scheduled.? The governor's account eventually deleted the tweet entirely.

TheBigGuy wrote:
Hey Stupid.... your point is what??? An Imam In Orlando is quoted as saying the it is "compassionate" to kill gay people and put them out of their misery.... after the tweet did someone run out and shoot up a mosque? F'Off Fool!


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Anti-LGBT Texas Lt. Gov. Tweets: ?Man Reaps What He Sows?

Dan Patrick, the anti-LGBT lieutenant governor of Texas, tweeted the biblical phrase ?man reaps what he sows? hours after an attack on a gay nightclub in Florida killed at least 50 people.

Patrick, a Republican, introduced legislation to force transgender students to use the bathroom of the gender listed on their birth certificates. ?The one who sows to please his flesh, from the flesh will reap destruction,? the passage from Galatians 6:7 continues.

According to a Patrick spokesperson, the tweet was ?pre-scheduled.? The governor's account eventually deleted the tweet entirely.

Asif wrote:
Anti-LGBT Texas Lt. Gov. Tweets: ?Man Reaps What He Sows?

Dan Patrick, the anti-LGBT lieutenant governor of Texas, tweeted the biblical phrase ?man reaps what he sows? hours after an attack on a gay nightclub in Florida killed at least 50 people.

Patrick, a Republican, introduced legislation to force transgender students to use the bathroom of the gender listed on their birth certificates. ?The one who sows to please his flesh, from the flesh will reap destruction,? the passage from Galatians 6:7 continues.

According to a Patrick spokesperson, the tweet was ?pre-scheduled.? The governor's account eventually deleted the tweet entirely.

Asif wrote:
Anti-LGBT Texas Lt. Gov. Tweets: ?Man Reaps What He Sows?

Dan Patrick, the anti-LGBT lieutenant governor of Texas, tweeted the biblical phrase ?man reaps what he sows? hours after an attack on a gay nightclub in Florida killed at least 50 people.

Patrick, a Republican, introduced legislation to force transgender students to use the bathroom of the gender listed on their birth certificates. ?The one who sows to please his flesh, from the flesh will reap destruction,? the passage from Galatians 6:7 continues.

According to a Patrick spokesperson, the tweet was ?pre-scheduled.? The governor's account eventually deleted the tweet entirely.

the trump bigots will say anything to spread their venom and hate

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I think Obama was about equally upset that the shooter wasn't a white, Christian male who belonged to the Republican party and the NRA as he was at the unspeakable tragedy. 50 dead, and he still can't say Islamic terrorism-disgusting.

Not surprising - we're just dealing with a a JV team. This guy's head is in the sand when it comes to dealing with terrorism (among a long list of other things). He can't wait for January 20 2017.

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I think Obama was about equally upset that the shooter wasn't a white, Christian male who belonged to the Republican party and the NRA as he was at the unspeakable tragedy. 50 dead, and he still can't say Islamic terrorism-disgusting.