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Tell me again about Obama having the Russians under control... what naïve people who follow this man blindly


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You're joking, right? Obama's foreign policy moves with Russia have worked?? Turn off msnbc, jeez.

Yes. The empirical data has demonstrated that it has. Russia has been backing down on Ukraine even if their rhetoric isn't. Also, you already know I don't have MSNBC on...

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Yeah, the Russians taking a commercial plane out of the air, and not giving back any land they annexed, and our Baltic NATO friends freaking out-yup, Obama's right on track.
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You're joking, right? Obama's foreign policy moves with Russia have worked?? Turn off msnbc, jeez.

Yes. The empirical data has demonstrated that it has. Russia has been backing down on Ukraine even if their rhetoric isn't. Also, you already know I don't have MSNBC on...

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You're joking, right? Obama's foreign policy moves with Russia have worked?? Turn off msnbc, jeez.

Yes. The empirical data has demonstrated that it has. Russia has been backing down on Ukraine even if their rhetoric isn't. Also, you already know I don't have MSNBC on...

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You're joking, right? Obama's foreign policy moves with Russia have worked?? Turn off msnbc, jeez.

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Nice rebuttal of facts... oh that's right it's all Bush's fault. This is not hard to figure out, most global bad actors have figured out Obama. At least he did not "draw a line" in the sand as the March 31st date passed.


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Another administration lie, this "deal" is only a framework to keep on talking (delaying for the Iranians) The Iranians aren't serious about anything except their threats to destroy Israel and the West. I can't imagine what is said behind WH doors when they make a public statement about progress in talks and minutes later Iranian refute or deny everything the WH just said publicly. Very scary times. The Obama admin has risked what's left of any credible foreign policy on those crazy bastards. That is why they would like the bi-partisan coverage, to blame the Republicans when it fails and iran is lobbing nuke devices all over the ME at their enemies.



Turn off Fox News sometime.

You wrote facts...?

Just to correct you a little, writing innuendo about closed doors or that Obama has no credibility on foreign policy (especially when his Russian dealings worked) is actually an opinion. I didn’t realize a rebuttal of an opinion borne from watching too much Hannity (a community college flunky that just got completely embarrassed by Pat Buchanan on this very subject) was necessary. I was merely trying to present a nice suggestion that might help you out a bit...

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Can't wait till the Selective Department of Justice plays their ace in the hole and officially connect Hillary's husband to the Menendez / Washington & Florida Political Connections / Epstein & Optometrist / DR Sex cartel. I am sure they all know each other... The Big Dog loves his cigars

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Telenovela time :) I like how all the girls that Menendez helped out with visas were described as "collegiate" "models" from 3rd world countries plus the girl who got the scholarship from his friend's "foundation". I wonder who (i mean, what) she did to get that academic scholarship.... this will be very interesting to watch...lol

To see Menendez's indigation at his indictment is hilarious.

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Nice rebuttal of facts... oh that's right it's all Bush's fault. This is not hard to figure out, most global bad actors have figured out Obama. At least he did not "draw a line" in the sand as the March 31st date passed.


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Another administration lie, this "deal" is only a framework to keep on talking (delaying for the Iranians) The Iranians aren't serious about anything except their threats to destroy Israel and the West. I can't imagine what is said behind WH doors when they make a public statement about progress in talks and minutes later Iranian refute or deny everything the WH just said publicly. Very scary times. The Obama admin has risked what's left of any credible foreign policy on those crazy bastards. That is why they would like the bi-partisan coverage, to blame the Republicans when it fails and iran is lobbing nuke devices all over the ME at their enemies.



Turn off Fox News sometime.

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Telenovela time :) I like how all the girls that Menendez helped out with visas were described as "collegiate" "models" from 3rd world countries plus the girl who got the scholarship from his friend's "foundation". I wonder who (i mean, what) she did to get that academic scholarship.... this will be very interesting to watch...lol

To see Menendez's indigation at his indictment is hilarious.

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Another administration lie, this "deal" is only a framework to keep on talking (delaying for the Iranians) The Iranians aren't serious about anything except their threats to destroy Israel and the West. I can't imagine what is said behind WH doors when they make a public statement about progress in talks and minutes later Iranian refute or deny everything the WH just said publicly. Very scary times. The Obama admin has risked what's left of any credible foreign policy on those crazy bastards. That is why they would like the bi-partisan coverage, to blame the Republicans when it fails and iran is lobbing nuke devices all over the ME at their enemies.



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When a Democrat is asking for bi-partisan agreement on the deal-holy cow. Or is he talking about anti vs pro Israel Democrats? :)




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Another administration lie, this "deal" is only a framework to keep on talking (delaying for the Iranians) The Iranians aren't serious about anything except their threats to destroy Israel and the West. I can't imagine what is said behind WH doors when they make a public statement about progress in talks and minutes later Iranian refute or deny everything the WH just said publicly. Very scary times. The Obama admin has risked what's left of any credible foreign policy on those crazy bastards. That is why they would like the bi-partisan coverage, to blame the Republicans when it fails and iran is lobbing nuke devices all over the ME at their enemies.



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When a Democrat is asking for bi-partisan agreement on the deal-holy cow. Or is he talking about anti vs pro Israel Democrats? :)

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When a Democrat is asking for bi-partisan agreement on the deal-holy cow. Or is he talking about anti vs pro Israel Democrats? :)

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Political Insider: After Menendez indictment,  can only offer some holiday appetizers

By Agustin C. Torres | The Jersey Journal The Star-Ledger
April 04, 2015 at  7:16 AM

-- A day after the announced indictment, U.S. Sen. Robert Menendez wanted to show he can still function and issued a statement about the nuclear agreement with Iran.

"Led by Secretary of State John Kerry and Secretary of Energy Ernest Moniz, our negotiators have worked tirelessly throughout these talks and today's announcement deserves rigorous review and analysis. In the coming days, this preliminary understanding will receive close scrutiny, and for that reason, Congress must fulfill its oversight responsibilities. That begins with taking up on April 14 in the Senate Foreign Relations Committee the Iran Nuclear Agreement Review Act of 2015. If diplomats can negotiate for two years on this issue, then certainly Congress is entitled to a review period of an agreement that will fundamentally alter our relationship with Iran and the sanctions imposed by Congress. The best outcome remains a good deal that ends Iran's illicit nuclear weapons program. That requires a strong, united, and bipartisan approach from the Administration and Congress."

Since the proposed agreement doesn't seem to actually end the Iran weapons program, I'm trying to decide whether Menendez is still tweaking President Obama and whether the Mossad has joined his legal defense team.

Read more:  http://www.nj.com/opinion/index.ssf/2 ... e_holiday_appetizers.html


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No way Christie appoints Fulop to anything, let alone Senator.

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Its a credible scenario eliminating Fulop as a gubernatorial candidate by appointing him Senator when Menendez sees the handwriting on the wall...This will insure Christies choice of Sweeney as Governor & getting Sweeneys nod for Christies presidential bid.

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Christie won't appoint Fulop; like the last time he'll appoint a middle of the road Republican and call for a special election-rather than appoint a Republican for the rest of Menendez's term, which is his right to do.

Fulop decides to run for Senator, agreeing that he'll stand down in exchange for Sweeney getting a clear path. He does this because he's been losing supporters like Lesniak recently, hasn't been able to control the Hudson County Democrats, and the south Jersey Dems don't seem to like him much.

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Does anyone here "Fulop for Senate"! When Bob M goes down, and he will go down. Steven is cut the deal with Sweeney and the guys in the south to run for Senate.


I'll think on this, but you've got a very good point. GED Sweeney would never fit in as a Senator, but he could pull off being a NJ Governor. Fulop might actually aspire to a Senate spot under that scenario. Is there a big enough closet in DC for Booker AND Fulop though? :)

Fulop as Senator...? I don't see Christie appointing him. A special election now? I don't see Fulop running.

I can see Sweeney making the move given all the water-carrying he's done for Christie.

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Does anyone here "Fulop for Senate"! When Bob M goes down, and he will go down. Steven is cut the deal with Sweeney and the guys in the south to run for Senate.


I'll think on this, but you've got a very good point. GED Sweeney would never fit in as a Senator, but he could pull off being a NJ Governor. Fulop might actually aspire to a Senate spot under that scenario. Is there a big enough closet in DC for Booker AND Fulop though? :)

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Does anyone here "Fulop for Senate"! When Bob M goes down, and he will go down. Steven is cut the deal with Sweeney and the guys in the south to run for Senate.

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So, after Menendez resigns and Christie appoints himself a senator, I wonder which picture you are going to choose to portray your own reaction to that.


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Add the NYTimes to the voices calling for Democrat Senator Menendez to resign.


Obviously the comment of a very impressionable person, lol.

A Democrat CLOSELY associated with who...? Wonder what its motivation for such a call could be, lol. Perhaps it is in full out damage control mode now? The least objective news source you could site given its overt, documented and well-known bias.

And oh by the way, chuckles abound at the sophomoric emphasis placed on "Democrat." As if a distinction exists between a purchased-and-paid-for Democrat and a purchased-and-paid-for Republican. They're ALL purchased-and-paid-for. How else, would a FOREIGN diplomat ever see his way into America's once most sacrosanct chamber in order to propagate a war against Iran in defiance of a sitting President and at the very same time receive no less than 25 standing ovations?



You're right. Emphasis should have been 'Hudson County' Democrat, because they're a special subset of the national party known for corruption.

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And oh by the way, chuckles abound at the sophomoric emphasis placed on "Democrat." As if a distinction exists between a purchased-and-paid-for Democrat and a purchased-and-paid-for Republican. They're ALL purchased-and-paid-for.


Well, there is a difference. Democrats defend those who holds the Party Line. Like Harry Reid - nobody questions how he became so rich on so modest government salary. Or Charlie Rangel who seemingly can do whatever he wants, like cheat on taxes while at the same time being the chairman of the very committee that writes the tax code.

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How else, would a FOREIGN diplomat ever see his way into America's once most sacrosanct chamber in order to propagate a war against Iran in defiance of a sitting President and at the very same time receive no less than 25 standing ovations?


Allow me to quote Mr. Reagan: "It isn't so much that liberals are ignorant. It's just that they know so many things that aren't so"

First, you think that Congress is "sancrosanct" and closed to foreigners. "Isn't so". Congress is not a Temple of Xenophobia. There is no article in the Constitution that would prohibit Congress to invite a foreign person to speak. And there isn't and there never was any tradition against foreigners talking to Congress. In fact, there is a long history of various foreign politicians talking to the US Congress. Like King of Hawaii Kalakaua, French Ambassador de La Boulaye, Cuban Ambassador Guillermo Belt, Churchill, Mandela, Rabin and it's not even the first time when Netanyahu speeks there. He already did in 1996 and 2011.

Second, you believe that the Congress is somehow subservient to the President and is obliged not to "defy" him. It's also "isn't so". Congress is a separate branch of power and it does what it pleases as long it's within the power given to it by the People.

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Just admit it, you've got nothing, lol.

Can we get back to yet another NJ Senator getting indicted-the last being another Democrat, Harrison Williams. And we almost should count the Torch, who withdrew his re-election campaign when it was apparent he'd be indicted. Quite the rogues gallery!


That's just half of it. Look at all the people here who are now all aflutter with "oh, if Menendez is corrupt, good riddance!" Do you really think this was the first time they learned he may be corrupt? Yeah. Me neither. Him, or Torch, or any other guy, they all knew it from the beginning. And yet they voted for them.


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Add the NYTimes to the voices calling for Democrat Senator Menendez to resign.


Obviously the comment of a very impressionable person, lol.

A Democrat CLOSELY associated with who...? Wonder what its motivation for such a call could be, lol. Perhaps it is in full out damage control mode now? The least objective news source you could site given its overt, documented and well-known bias.

And oh by the way, chuckles abound at the sophomoric emphasis placed on "Democrat." As if a distinction exists between a purchased-and-paid-for Democrat and a purchased-and-paid-for Republican. They're ALL purchased-and-paid-for. How else, would a FOREIGN diplomat ever see his way into America's once most sacrosanct chamber in order to propagate a war against Iran in defiance of a sitting President and at the very same time receive no less than 25 standing ovations?


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Add the NYTimes to the voices calling for Democrat Senator Menendez to resign.

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Just admit it, you've got nothing, lol.

Can we get back to yet another NJ Senator getting indicted-the last being another Democrat, Harrison Williams. And we almost should count the Torch, who withdrew his re-election campaign when it was apparent he'd be indicted. Quite the rogues gallery!

Eye of the beholder as they say... just because you want to believe something, doesn’t make it true...

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N.J. Democrats who ripped Christie over George Washington Bridge give Menendez benefit of doubt

http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/ ... e_washi.html#incart_river

I’d ask why you were surprised but then I thought, he might be one of those people that believes in unicorns and some vast left wing media bias.

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(surprised nj.com/SL even printed this piece)

N.J. Democrats who ripped Christie over George Washington Bridge give Menendez benefit of doubt

http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/ ... e_washi.html#incart_river


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Just admit it, you've got nothing, lol.

Can we get back to yet another NJ Senator getting indicted-the last being another Democrat, Harrison Williams. And we almost should count the Torch, who withdrew his re-election campaign when it was apparent he'd be indicted. Quite the rogues gallery!

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Pebble, the bid process was begun in 2011, narrowed down to three finalists in 2012, and awarded in 2013-and Christie interceded on behalf of Jerry Jones to get playoff seats in 2014?

Legends is co-owned by the Dallas Cowboys (of which Jones is one of the partner mix) the NY Yankee partners, and Dave Checkett (former MSG honcho) and his group. They are based in NYC.

Specious as any claim is, the NJ Ethics board already looked into it and found everything fine and dandy. Cuomo also backed the awarding of the contract. After all, 2/3 of the owners are NYC based.

Oh, the contract was awarded months before Jones and Christie ever met!

And Christie didn't 'make calls'-he and Governor Cuomo released a freaking official press statement the day before the announcement!

http://www.governor.ny.gov/news/gover ... gends-hospitality-develop


Other than that, you're spot on!

Look at you carrying all that water! Be careful, if you don't lift with your legs your back will have problems.

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Pebble, the bid process was begun in 2011, narrowed down to three finalists in 2012, and awarded in 2013-and Christie interceded on behalf of Jerry Jones to get playoff seats in 2014?

Legends is co-owned by the Dallas Cowboys (of which Jones is one of the partner mix) the NY Yankee partners, and Dave Checkett (former MSG honcho) and his group. They are based in NYC.

Specious as any claim is, the NJ Ethics board already looked into it and found everything fine and dandy. Cuomo also backed the awarding of the contract. After all, 2/3 of the owners are NYC based.

Oh, the contract was awarded months before Jones and Christie ever met!

And Christie didn't 'make calls'-he and Governor Cuomo released a freaking official press statement the day before the announcement!

http://www.governor.ny.gov/news/gover ... gends-hospitality-develop


Other than that, you're spot on!

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Mayor Fulop, who first pooh-poohed the rumors of the indictment, continues to carry water for Senator Menendez. Just what could Menendez have on Fulop? http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/20 ... r_for_n.html#incart_river


I prefer Tom Moran's take in today's Star Ledger in which he laid out a clear and strong case as to why Menendez should resign. I think Moran has probably a more objective, less transactional take on all of this than our mayor. Part of Moran's thinking is "Innocent until proven guilty" is too low of a standard for a Senator. I agree.

So yes, Monroe - while I'm hard-pressed to think of another time I agreed with you, I do think Menendez should resign. Unlike you, I don't buy into the reflexive party nonsense that big politics would like us to ascribe to - I happen to vote Democrat more often but for me it's about the person, not the party. I think deciding who our leaders are should be taken a little more seriously than the way we follow football.

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