Monroe wrote:
Translation from Sweeney-'Stevie, you're running with the big dogs now.'

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Yvonne wrote:
Sweeney tell the Port Authority to kill the garbage transfer deal.
http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/20 ... on_plan.html#incart_river

bodhipooh wrote:
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hero69 wrote:
probably a smart decision to cancel this

If the facts are as previously stated (that the garbage is already being transported through JC streets on regular trucks) then I don't see how the cancellation is a smart decision. It was implied from the beginning that the garbage is already being brought to JC, then loaded onto trucks, which then drive through the streets of JC on their way to the landfill or incineration facility. If that is not the case, then it is probably good they cancelled. But, if the garbage is already coming here, this new setup would have been an improvement.

bodhipooh wrote:
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hero69 wrote:
probably a smart decision to cancel this

If the facts are as previously stated (that the garbage is already being transported through JC streets on regular trucks) then I don't see how the cancellation is a smart decision. It was implied from the beginning that the garbage is already being brought to JC, then loaded onto trucks, which then drive through the streets of JC on their way to the landfill or incineration facility. If that is not the case, then it is probably good they cancelled. But, if the garbage is already coming here, this new setup would have been an improvement.

hero69 wrote:
probably a smart decision to cancel this

Chris_NJ wrote:
1 thing I don't understand - does all of the garbage that would have gone through this transfer station already move through Jersey City by trucks anyway?

Yvonne wrote:
Sweeney tell the Port Authority to kill the garbage transfer deal.
http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/20 ... on_plan.html#incart_river

Falcon wrote:
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JCMan8 wrote:
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JPhurst wrote:
So let me guess what will happen.

1. The Port Authority will approve the same use for the Greenville Yards. Because that's why they acquired the property.

2. "Community opposition" will be slightly, though not entirely, placated by giving significantly less resources to some local parks. Some of the neighborhood leaders will get to feel important by sitting on advisory boards and get nice sandwiches for lunch while they discuss how to funnel the significantly lower amount of money for their preferred projects.

3. The city will get less money out of the deal. And no Reservoir No. 3 funding.

4. Yvonne will continue to blame tax abatements for the city's fiscal position.

Looks like you are wrong on all counts (well, I don't care about 4) according to Fulop's latest statement that the deal will not happen.

Seems like the Port Authority is the unlikely hero in this mess, listening to residents as Fulop completely brushed them aside. Funny that according to his statement, he only listened to residents AFTER he got the deal approved.

I'd like to know the answer to two questions:

1. Why did Fulop jam this deal through like that to begin with?

2. What gave him such a sudden dramatic change of heart to say the deal won't go through at all? After all, the Port Authority simply forced a due diligence period, including community outreach. They didn't cancel the project outright.

Monroe wrote:
jcman, all he admitted was that it was a bad idea, he didn't say 'why' it was a bad idea. Besides, he can say whatever he wants, he doesn't have to tell the truth for his reasons. In any case, he caved big time on this. As he should have.

Yvonne wrote:
This was posted on South Greenville Facebook page:

Martha and Kathleen
I wanted to reach out and close the loop on this. I have listened to many residents from the community over the last few days individually and have decided that we won't be moving forward with the waste transfer station. Part of leadership is recognizing when you are wrong and this is such an instance. What's more, in meetings with Council President Lavarro and Councilmen Rivera and Gajewski they provided perspective that I value and I think this is best before considering moving forward


Steven M. Fulop
Mayor
Jersey City, New Jersey

JPhurst wrote:
So let me guess what will happen.

1. The Port Authority will approve the same use for the Greenville Yards. Because that's why they acquired the property.

2. "Community opposition" will be slightly, though not entirely, placated by giving significantly less resources to some local parks. Some of the neighborhood leaders will get to feel important by sitting on advisory boards and get nice sandwiches for lunch while they discuss how to funnel the significantly lower amount of money for their preferred projects.

3. The city will get less money out of the deal. And no Reservoir No. 3 funding.

4. Yvonne will continue to blame tax abatements for the city's fiscal position.

Monroe wrote:
a) He underestimated the opposition by the well-to-do residents in Port Liberte

b) The guys at Liberty National perked up and said 'hey, do we want this trash station next to our new casino'?

c) He figured the optics of jamming this through on such short notice were awful for a candidate for Governor

d) He didn't want to be seen as being less reasonable than the Port Authority

Monroe wrote:
Of course we can agree. If the project didn't fail the 'smell test', pun intended, then it would have not been rushed like a summer Saturday night Mass down the shore. And Fulop must be steaming that it's the Port Authority putting the brakes on the rush job.

Monroe wrote:
The Port Authority will force the due diligence the project requires that Fulop tried to railroad through. http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/20 ... ty_says.html#incart_river

News of the deal, given initial OK by the City Council last week only two days after Fulop announced the plan, sent shudders through Greenville and Port Liberte, two Jersey City neighborhoods close to Greenville Yards. Residents there, who have fought such plans in the past, said they feel "betrayed" by the proposed deal with IESI.