colleen wrote:
yeahRight?

Cuz a 5 foot nothing girl on platforms and her gal pal can easily carry a mattress/box spring 3 blocks on a windy day with a flim crew and assorted hangers-on in tow.

Haters gonna hate

Vigilante wrote:
Those photos! It seems so real! I can feel the local economy on the uptick! Thank god they had wheels, it's such a long trip from Mercer St!!

vindication15 wrote:
People misunderstand me and others posting on this thread.

Go ahead and drink until you die, tan until you get skin cancer, be promiscuous and sleep around with whoever and whenever. I don't really care.

However, when you appear on a show that has the word "New Jersey" or "jersey" in it, I'm associated with that crap because I'm a resident. I don't know how many times I get the "oh, you're a big fan of the jersey shore I guess?" question just because I live in NJ.

So yes, it directly affects my quality of life to be put into the same sentence as garbage such as the jersey shore... Not to mention my tax dollars for the police, the added traffic, etc...

If the largest strip club in the world opened up in Jersey City, I have every right to advocate against and boycott against the club because it ruins my community and the city. This is the same, but in many cases, worse scenario because however large and appealing the strip club is, the jersey shore and those two idiots are even more appealing to people....

Anyways, my last post on this subject. I fail to get how many of you don't understand that NOT ALL PUBLICITY IS GOOD PUBLICITY. Jersey City is already associated with so many negative things to add one more to the list and say, "well, jersey city doesn't have the best reputation" is retarded. I mean retarded in the forrest gump sense and I hesitate to even say that because I'm sure forrest gump grasps this concept more so than some of the people here.

If President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad of Iran decided to stay in Jersey City, I hope all businesses put up signs saying "No Ahmadinejad" even if he decided to come into your store and act civil..it's what he stands for that we should be against. Just because you did it in excess doesn't mean that it should be promoted on TV with millions of teens watching (some of who are your daughters and sons) and in your city or state.....

I give up. Go Ahead and embrace snooki and jwoww..no wonder American kids are doing so well in school....

cityjersey wrote:


Says the Guy debating the value of Jersey Shore on a small online web forum in the middle of a week day...


Jersey Shore is nothing but a modern day minstrel show of Italian American stereotypes.

Mr_Johnson wrote:
Andre? DiMino needs to get a hobby.

Ryan215 wrote:
Hello to all.

I moved to Jersey City (Mercer and Jersey) about 9 months ago. I felt the need to join JCList in order to chime in here and say that the wine store on Jersey Avenue will no longer get by business. I'm pretty sure the owner doesn't care about losing my six pack of business per week, but I needed to get this off my chest.

I went there on Friday to buy some beers, with no knowledge of the "No Snooki" sign. When I encountered the sign, I asked the owner if he was serious. He seemed super proud, and asked me if I had seen the story on TMZ. I had not. I told him that I didn't understand and to lighten up, and he shut the door in my face, seemingly shocked that someone didn't agree with him.

I can understand bars and restaurants not allowing film crews as to not ruin the dining experience for others. But the idea of a liquor store or pet store banning people they've never met comes off to me as extremely ignorant and, well, miserable.

Until these girls somehow impede on your day-to-day life or negatively affect your business, why not treat them like you'd treat anyone else?

vindication15 wrote:
If President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad of Iran decided to stay in Jersey City, I hope all businesses put up signs saying "No Ahmadinejad" even if he decided to come into your store and act civil..it's what he stands for that we should be against. Just because you did it in excess doesn't mean that it should be promoted on TV with millions of teens watching (some of who are your daughters and sons) and in your city or state.....

I give up. Go Ahead and embrace snooki and jwoww..no wonder American kids are doing so well in school....

vindication15 wrote:
I don't know how many times I get the "oh, you're a big fan of the jersey shore I guess?" question just because I live in NJ.

Vigilante wrote:
http://blog.nj.com/njv_guest_blog/201 ... ys_embrace_of_snooki.html


By Andre? DiMino

?It was the best of times, it was the worst of times ??

No, it?s not the French peasantry being demoralized, as Charles Dickens wrote in ?A Tale of Two Cities,? but the people ? especially the Italian-American people ? of two cities, right here in New Jersey.

Hoboken Mayor Dawn Zimmer denied filming permits to a spin-off of MTV?s disgraceful ?Jersey Shore? reality show. But, within days, Jersey City Mayor Jerramiah Healy rolled out the welcome mat to these malcontents. MTV?s ?Jersey Shore? has been a blight on New Jersey, as well as an insult to all Italian-Americans. Why would any community want to be associated with the bad acts, lewdness, inebriation, violence against women, crudeness and other garbage spewed by this trash programming? Mayor Zimmer, in stark contrast to her counterpart in Jersey City, has done the right thing and we officially commend her for that with the Italian American ONE VOICE Coalition ?Una Voce? Award. (?Una Voce? means ?One Voice? in Italian.)

Mayor Healy, what were you thinking? Your quick embrace of ?Jersey Shore? to promote Jersey City not only shows poor judgment but also threatens to, once again, sink the reputation of the city you lead ? all for a few moments of infamy on MTV.

We call on Mayor Healy to reverse his decision, do the right thing for all New Jersey and just say no to the negative stereotypes and garbage spewed by this trash programming. In contrast, several Jersey City bar owners denied permission to use their establishments to film. We thank Skinner?s Loft, LITM and Barcade for doing the right thing. Bravo!

Our organization is in a constant battle against the continued and accelerating stereotyping and denigration of Italian-Americans. The explosion of horrendous reality shows, like ?Jersey Shore,? ?Mob Wives? and others, and constant depiction of Italian-Americans in mainstream media as criminals, mobsters, bimbos and buffoons, is disgraceful and unacceptable. We objected to ?Jersey Shore? and its ilk since before its debut and we will continue to do so.

The plethora and ubiquity of this type of brainless and denigrating reality programming are exploding, no doubt fueled by huge ratings for ?Jersey Shore.? It seems a new industry has been spawned to produce shows with cookie-cutter stereotypes of Italian-Americans, acting badly and striving for new lows in behavior. The bimbos and buffoons on these shows, starving for their 15 minutes of fame, live up to the pseudo-reality their puppet-master producers create in their desire to tell the world this is what Italian-Americans are really like.

It is self-evident that Italian-Americans were, and continue to be, the only ethnic group that it is totally acceptable to negatively stereotype and demean. This is certainly rampant in fictional works, such as HBO?s ?Sopranos.? But what?s different with ?Jersey Shore? and shows like it is that it is promoted as ?reality? and I believe that is what has galvanized so many Italian-Americans to be so vehemently opposed to this disgusting series and MTV.

It doesn?t stop there. Italian-American denigration is seen, across the board, with supposedly responsible people like political commentator Bob Beckel, a host of ?The Five? on Fox News. Beckel has repeatedly used the pejorative terms ?greaseballs? and ?guidos? when referring to Italian-Americans. Although he apologized for insensitive remarks about other ethnicities, and rightly so, he has yet to apologize for his hate speech toward Italian-Americans ? even after a barrage of calls and e-mail messages from ONE VOICE activists and many others. We know about the firing of Don Imus and, very recently, an ESPN editor, for pejorative comments about other races and ethnicities. But when it comes to Italian-Americans, there is no reproach.

And that precisely defines the double standard we face every day ? it is off limits to stereotype and denigrate other ethnicities, but it is de rigueur for Italian-Americans.
And that brings us back to our tale of two cities ? Hoboken and Jersey City ? a sharp contrast, not only for Italian-Americans, but for all the people of New Jersey.

Andre? DiMino is president of the Italian American ONE VOICE Coalition.

TheTacoTruck wrote:
No sign is needed. In June we (Vigil included) can all find something else to b*tch about.

TheTacoTruck wrote:
We absolutely do not support reality tv. (Except maybe Gold Rush. And American Chopper.) We also did not allow camera crews in our place. If they want to come and eat fine. Just no cameras and all that nonsense. You don't get "roped in" to one of these shows. You sign a release and when you do so, you run the risk of being humiliated in front of millions of people. Sorry Vigil.

TheTacoTruck wrote:
We absolutely do not support reality tv. (Except maybe Gold Rush. And American Chopper.) We also did not allow camera crews in our place. If they want to come and eat fine. Just no cameras and all that nonsense. You don't get "roped in" to one of these shows. You sign a release and when you do so, you run the risk of being humiliated in front of millions of people. Sorry Vigil.

Vigilante wrote:
Why did you stop? Our mayor hasn't.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/23/nyregion/23mayor.html

neverleft wrote:
Quote:

vindication15 wrote:

Do you know how many young teens are influenced by the idiocy of these two morons? How many teens drink excessively, promote stereotypes, tan excessively, and spend 90% of their life focused on relationships based on the above items...What was it..4 million viewers or more?

*****
-Promotes violence against women (1)
-Promotes Public lewdness and drunkenness (2)
-Promotes teen tanning which is extremely harmful to your health (skin cancer anyone?) (3)
-Promotes binge drinking (4)
-Promotes overall idiocy (5)

Why does everyone put America?s current teen problems on the shoulders of an MTV show called Jersey Shore that?s been on air maybe 2 years? Jackass yes, but Jersey Shore? The above has been going on for the last 40 plus years. You could air Jersey Shore and say it was shot in 1977 and it would work. Nothing has changed in almost 40 years. (Ok the drinking age back then was 18 *) Where did all of those teens over the years (myself included) learn how to act like idiots? We didn?t have MTV so I guess it just came naturally.

I was in on a summer house down the shore in the 70?s for many years. There were maybe 9 of us. Because money was tight for college kids we recruited people from outside of our normal crew. So to fill 3 shares we included 2 guys from Nutley and one guy from Staten Island. Yes 3 Guido?s. Back then Guido was not a bad thing; I don?t know why the Italian League thinks it is today. I am sure some of them donned gold chains and owned a few silk shirts back in the day. I think Nutley still has a spray painted ?Guido town? on one of their overhead train trestles.

This is Jersey Shore the1970's edition.

1-The 3 Italian guys kept a chart of all of their sexual conquests inside of their closet doors. The 2 guys from Nutley actually had a competition to see who had the most ?wins? at the end of the summer. (don?t tell the Gloria Steinem crowd) At least Mike and Pauley call a cab for their dates to leave in. (for the record the others and I had close to zero) (hey 70?s girls why did you only go home with the Guido?s back then, was it their mustaches?)

2-The drinking and shenanigans at house parties was wild. (shore rule number one NEVER have a party at your own house, especially if your names are on the lease..duh) Hundreds of people stuffed in little shore bungalows with unlimited free booze. (the ticket to get into most parties was a case of beer) You know it was only a matter of time before some slob clogged the only toilet bowl with a major league dugan forcing everyone find the nearest bush (or ocean). As long as you were outdoors why not make your way down to the beach and go skinny dipping in the ocean. Nothing like being nude and drunk swimming in the ocean not knowing where the shore line disappeared to..how liberating. Rip tide what rip tide? Thank goodness iphones and youtube were not invented yet. Wait a minute thank goodness we survived!


3-Body wise we all lifted weights Friday evening at the Gym before our road trip down the shore. We also kept a small supply of dumbbells (no pun intended) in the house for the Saturday night touch up. (all natural baby no need for juice back then) Tanning was at the beach not a parlor. We lay out for hours at a time with thick layers of baby oil on our bodies. (SPF negative 100) I have things now growing on (and out of) my body that look like little sea creatures. I keep getting ?looking for new exhibits? flyers from the Coney Island Freak Show in the mail. I also have been getting a few from NASA, something about them wanting my sun hardened skin to cover their space capsules for re-entry. But I had a great tan in the 70?s!. No scheduled Laundromat trips that I recall, except for the occasional emengency puke on the shirt wash and dry. I think I went down with a pair of cutoff shorts and a few T-shirts that?s all. Yes the 3 Italian guys always came down with a shi* load of clothes and hair product. (hmm maybe that was their secret in getting girls?look decent)

4-Everyone drank starting Friday night into Sunday evening. The scary thing was the drinking started up north with cases of beer being consumed ON the drive down the shore. (how freakin? stupid letting kids drink legally at 18, I still have nightmares about what COULD have been) The lines at the shore liquor stores were constant and long but not as long as the lines to get into the clubs. (remember Mont-guido Bay?). For fun we kept all of the cardboard bottoms from our cases of Miller lite (cheapest beer at the time) in a kitchen pantry closet. At the end of the summer we had hundreds. Just like today the key was to drink at home in order to save money at the bars. Although I will never forget the ?5 mugs of beer for a dollar? nights at D-Jays in Belmar.

5-The fights (between rival houses, cities, states) in bars, clubs and the boardwalk, property damage (lost quite a bit of security deposit money every summer), the noise complaints (our neighbors never understood why we needed to have loud music playing at 3 am when we came home from the bars), the arrests (no comment, hey there weren?t any nearby available indoor bathrooms and I HAD to go officer). Talk about self taught idiocy.


Yeah nothing has changed in 40 plus years. And speaking of ?No Snookie? signs. Another funny thing back then was the ?No Bennies? signs down the Shore. I think the year round shore home owners and shore businesses only put then up in the winter though. Funny you never saw a ?No Bennies? sign in the summer I guess they didn?t want to lose out on all of the summer ?Bennie? money. Hypocrite$ indeed.



* NJ lowered its drinking age from 21 to 18 in 1973; raised it to 19 in 1980 and raised it to 21 on Jan 1 1983.