ianmac47 wrote:
From the Muni Code:

? 84-4. - Plenary retail consumption licenses; restrictions. [Amended 12-27-1984 by Ord. No. MC-758]

A.
No plenary retail consumption license shall be granted for or transferred to any premises the entrance of which is within the area of a circle having a radius of 750 feet and having as its central point the entrance of an existing licensed premises covered by a plenary retail consumption license, shall be compelled to vacate the licensed premises for any reason that in the opinion of the Board of Alcoholic Beverage Control was not caused by any action on the part of the licensee, or, if the landlord of the licensed premises shall consent to a vacation thereof, the licensee may, in the discretion of the Board of Alcoholic Beverage Control, be permitted to have such license transferred to another premises within a radius of 1,000 feet measured from the entrance. The provisions of this subsection relating to distances between licensed premises shall not apply to the issuance or transfer of any license to premises which will be operated by the licensee as a bowling academy. The premises shall be deemed



Sooooo it seems the solution is just to install 4 bowling lanes in all the bars...

ianmac47 wrote:
The issue with the licenses on Newark Avenue I believe is not a matter of having used all of Jersey City's consumption licenses, but rather that Jersey City has a municipal ordinance limiting the distance between licensed establishments, thus preventing every storefront from becoming a bar. [Empty store fronts are much better than a street of bars filled with patrons who might also end up spending money at other businesses]

tommyc_37 wrote:
However, I'm disappointed to read the post above that says JC has given out all liquor licenses. WTF? How does that happen, and where are all the bars? LOL. How does a tiny city like Hoboken have more bars than JC does, when JC is 5x the size?

Now, while I'm being overly optimistic, can I be the first to request that they include some pinball machines? And I'm not talking about any of the recent video Pinball-2000 garbage... I want the quality 1990's Midway/Williams/Bally machines like Addams Family, Funhouse, and Twilight Zone.

Scottacus wrote:
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tommyc_37 wrote:
The addition of any bar, especially on Newark Ave, is a good thing. However, I'm disappointed to read the post above that says JC has given out all liquor licenses. WTF? How does that happen, and where are all the bars? LOL. How does a tiny city like Hoboken have more bars than JC does, when JC is 5x the size?

JC shoots itself in the foot so often. If anybody can shed some light on the liquor license issue, I'd appreciate it. I'm very much in the dark with those laws.

It's most likely a matter of state law (as liquor licensing usually is). In NJ as in some other states, there is a maximum number of liquor licenses for each type of establishment (bar, restaurant, liquor store). And there are usually different types of licenses (beer/wine or full license).

New places get around this by purchasing the license of another bar or restaurant. So the number of licenses stay the same and they get reallocated as places open and close.

It's ridiculous but that's how the law generally works.

tommyc_37 wrote:
The addition of any bar, especially on Newark Ave, is a good thing. However, I'm disappointed to read the post above that says JC has given out all liquor licenses. WTF? How does that happen, and where are all the bars? LOL. How does a tiny city like Hoboken have more bars than JC does, when JC is 5x the size?

JC shoots itself in the foot so often. If anybody can shed some light on the liquor license issue, I'd appreciate it. I'm very much in the dark with those laws.

ianmac47 wrote:
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Vigilante wrote:
Even if this was to open there are probably not enough nerdy, hipster doofuses to keep it going. It will quickly become a "family" restaurant as aging hipster doofuses need places to bring their kids.

Possibly true. Especially since it would seem that JC is gentrifying more in the way that Park Slope did rather than Williamsburg has been-- families rather than non-families.

However, I think in a similar way that the Beer Garden has attracted Manhattanites, a version of Barcade could very well do the same thing and help lift all of the JC drinking establishments along with it.

Vigilante wrote:
Even if this was to open there are probably not enough nerdy, hipster doofuses to keep it going. It will quickly become a "family" restaurant as aging hipster doofuses need places to bring their kids.

mrasg1 wrote:
Leave the hipsters in Willamsburg.