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Re: Even NYPress has warmed up to Downtown Jersey City and its Charms!
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I thought that it was a very helpful article, especially for people who haven't been to JC before. I'm also of the opinion that his comments about NJ are all in jest and if not I don't care.
Unlike some, I noticed no impact last year when I didn't go to APW (although I may have been out of town). This year I'm looking forward to going and supporting a local event; although I'm very bummed that the Beastie Boys won't be playing. One thing that the article didn't mention is that you can't go in and out of the festival, which makes me tend toward drinking and eating elsewhere first and then seeing the bigger acts. Other info including set times are on the All Points West web site. Quote:
Posted on: 2009/7/31 0:30
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The New Festival Economics
New York Observer By J. Gabriel Boylan July 30, 200 And especially in the new music economy?where touring is the only real paying gig?these opportunities are starting to resonate with current popular performers and proven hitmakers who?ve left the recording studio but appeal to a broader age range of nostalgists. Witness performances by ?80s psychedelic New Wave phenom Echo and the Bunnymen, and ?90s shoegazing pioneers My Bloody Valentine. After all, at these prices, you?d better be able to reel in the 35-to-45-year-olds. For such bands, doing festival gigs allows them to test new material, create a market for their back catalog and figure out whether there?s another bite at the apple before taking on expensive tours themselves?or cutting an expensive studio album. Mr. Tollett and his team started out thinking of Coachella as a local festival, but as festivals became more plausible gigs for big-draw performers, fans began traveling from far afield to attend, and Goldenvoice began looking east. After an affiliation with the ill-fated Field Day Festival in 2003, Mr. Tollett knew it might work. ?I could just see by the sales, the sales were just phenomenal,? he said. ?And we got a call from Liberty State Park there was an opening to do something there. There hadn?t been anything there since September 11. And Radiohead had played there before September 11, and it was kind of legendary, so that seemed like a perfect fit.? Big-Brand Music Eventually Goldenvoice merged with AEG Live, and now All Points West has its share of corporate sponsors, too, including H&M, PlayStation, Major League Baseball, State Farm, Twix, Toyota and, of course, Anheuser Busch. In addition to the long lines, pricey bottled water and disorganization of the late ?90s festivals, overbearing corporate sponsorship was a huge turnoff to fans. The trick? To keep the sponsorships subtle enough not to annoy the fans and still collect from both. One potential marketing disaster was the eleventh-hour pullout of the Beastie Boys last week (Adam Yauch is taking a break to treat cancer in his parotid gland, a salivary gland in the throat, and the band will miss not only APW, but Lollapalooza and headlining gigs at the Osheaga Fest in Montreal and the Outside Lands Festival in San Francisco). ?I?ve never had a headliner cancel, and that was like, ?Oh, wow, I guess that could happen,?? said Mr. Tollett. ?I didn?t know what to do. Do you just run the show without your headliner? You don?t have to give refunds because it says subject to change, but the thing is, you?re trying to gain the trust of the fans, so we decided this year to just give refunds.? The idea of using Jay-Z as a replacement came to Mr. Tollett at once: It both fulfilled the New York niche of this year?s festival and another of the promoter?s pet ambitions. Jay-Z has played a number of European festivals, including the U.K.?s O2 Wireless and Glastonbury, and Roskilde in Denmark, but this will be his first performance at a major U.S. fest, and Mr. Tollett wants to put more such acts?headlining in Europe but not here?front and center. ?I would like to see more bands like that who came up through the system. Jay-Z, the Killers, Kings of Leon all opened up festivals in Europe but not here. How come Europe has more faith in our bands than we do?? And it?s just possible that the European model of the big, hip, yet smoothly run festival you can count on finding in the same place each year?rather than the model set down by Lollapalooza in the 1990s?will take hold in the U.S. as well. Mr. Tollett certainly hopes so. ?To me, a festival is just like one giant club, where you get to walk around, you don?t have to sit in a seat, you can go meet your friends and hang out with them,? he said. ?You?re there and you see the Statue of Liberty and all the buildings and the sky is so incredible at night.? All Points West takes place this coming Friday through Sunday, from noon to 11:30 p.m., at Liberty State Park, Jersey City; single-day tickets, $89, three-day tickets, $239; apwfestival.com.
Posted on: 2009/7/31 0:00
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Aahahhahah, CHUDS! The tanning bed radiation doesn't help probably. They are evolving into perfectly tanned, pouty beings with gills who adore A|X. I think we should get rid of the tolls on the bayonne bridge so they can come spend some money at the beer garden.
Posted on: 2009/7/29 21:24
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I think he was being ironic about NYCers attitudes toward setting foot in NJ. Also, he didn't say getting around JC is a nightmare. He said "finding your way." And that's true if you don't know your way around the canals, harbor inlets, rail yards and changes in elevation that make getting from point A to point B by following a straight line potentially impossible.
Posted on: 2009/7/29 21:18
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I live by the river.
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No wisecracks on Staten Island.
There's probably a lot of radiation or something over there turning them all into super-beings, or C.H.U.D.s.
Posted on: 2009/7/29 21:15
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I think we ought to start cracking jokes about Staten Island. That's a "borough" NYC should be truly proud of. An area specifically designated to hold their garbage.
Posted on: 2009/7/29 21:12
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Pretty sure that dude lives in Jersey City, and has written for that free magazine "New", the one about Jersey City.
Posted on: 2009/7/29 21:03
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Are the uncreative digs at the "mysterious land known as NJ" really necessary? Holy crap, does everything NY have to frown upon NJ? Downtown Jersey City is leaps and bounds above about 80% of NYC's outer boroughs. But this guy would never write anything bad about those ghetto boroughs because hey, "it's still NYC". Getting around Jersey City is a nightmare??? Um, I think it's a bit easier than getting around your beloved NYC, Joe Pompeo.
Unreal, unacceptable, and uncreative. Maybe it's time for NYC to pick on Connecticut. I'm so over these types of hack writers.
Posted on: 2009/7/29 20:56
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This event took place last year and you still think the grounds are nicely manicured today. Can't be that bad....
Posted on: 2009/7/29 20:43
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Same here, going to a pool party in the burbs. It's a shame that the nicely manicured grounds at the LSP are going to be mangled by this event.
Posted on: 2009/7/29 20:38
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Everyone would warm up to Jersey City and Hoboken if there were more cultural activities, etc. In Jersey City, one feels like one has to go to Manhattan to "live" versus in Brooklyn where there's a lot to do.
Posted on: 2009/7/29 20:32
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Be leaving town when that circus comes to town.
Posted on: 2009/7/29 19:56
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avoiding beergarden at all costs this weekend. my legwarmers are at the cleaners
Posted on: 2009/7/29 16:39
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You won't want any part of the light rail after the shows. You are better off walking home or walking to Grove Street for the PATH. Last year it took eons to get on the trains.
Posted on: 2009/7/29 16:33
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An APB on All Points West: Our guide to surviving?and maybe even enjoying?New Jersey July 29, 2009 New York Press By Joe Pompeo The All Points West festival promises to be one of the year?s best rock events, but finding your way around (gulp) Jersey City can be a nightmare. New York Press is here to save your music weekend. How to get there without being shafted. The All Points West?s website has detailed instructions on getting to the festival, but don?t believe their ferry heresy! If you?re coming from the City, steer clear of the $15- $20 ferry ride from Battery Park Pier. Opt for the $1.75 PATH train at the World Trade Center. Ride for about three minutes to Jersey City, which is where you?ll get off to catch the (free!) Light Rail to the festival site?better than the roughly 20 minutes it would take you on the 33rd Street line, which stops in Hoboken. Going home, especially, you do not want to subject yourself to the drunken white-hat convention that is the Hoboken PATH station on Friday and Saturday nights.Trust us. Made it without taking out a mortgage for a ferry ride. Now what? So you?ve hauled ass all the way to this mysterious land called New Jersey, and My Bloody Valentine doesn?t even go on until 8:15.What are you supposed to do with yourself? Drink, probably. Hit the newly opened Zeppelin Beer Hall (88 Liberty View Dr., near Grand St., 201- 721-8888, www.zeppelinhall.com ), which is right off a Light Rail stop en route to the concert grounds. It has an enormous beer garden where picnic tables, bratwurst and Weissbier abound. If you feel like a rooftop overlooking the Hudson, try the Iron Monkey (99 Greene St., 201-435-5756, www.ironmonkey.com ), which is two blocks from the Exchange Place PATH/Light Rail stop. Hungry? You can order rich-person food like $23 Chilean Sea Bass or recession grub like $2.50 hot dogs. So what if I?m drunk, bored and still waiting for Vampire Weekend? Perhaps the best-kept secret in town is Iris Records (114 Brunswick St., betw. 1st & 2nd Sts., 609 468-0885, www.recordriots.com ), about a five-minute walk from the Grove Street PATH. Housed in what was once a 1930s pharmacy, it?s the kind of record store where you have to knock to be let in.You?ll leave with your hands covered in grime, an original copy of Electric Warrior and five weird disco singles. This summer, it?s only open on Fridays from 3 to 8, so plan your first day of the fest accordingly.There?s a consignment shop next door called Boomerangs (110 Brunswick St., 201-798-0300, very www.boomerangsjc.wordpress.com ) that also has used records, as well as all the vintage kitsch your Brooklyn apartment could desire. This ?New Jersey? place is growing on me. What should I do after the show? On the slim chance you feel compelled to hang around after the festival, head back downtown toward Grove Street and check out the nearby Lamp Post Bar & Grill (382 2nd St., between Monmouth & Brunswick, 201-222-1331, www.myspace.com/lamppost ).This is where you?re most likely to find people with tattoos singing along to Misfits songs. Disclaimer: the bar can be hit or miss, but there?s usually a better crowd on Fridays. If they?re not there, they?ll probably be up the street at Lucky 7 (322 2nd St., at Coles St., 201-418-8585, www.lucky7tavern.com ). Speaking of tattoos, maybe you should get one while you?re in town! Jersey City Tattoo Co. (253 Newark Ave., betw. Monmouth & Coles Sts., 201-360-0139, www.jerseycitytattoo.com ) would be the place. In fact, ?All Points West? might actually look pretty decent in a banner. All Points West July 31, Aug.1 and Aug. 2, Liberty State Park, www.apwfestival.com ; noon to 11:30 daily, $89 a day and up. http://www.nypress.com/article-20136- ... b-on-all-points-west.html
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