T-Bird wrote:
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heights wrote:
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T-Bird wrote:
The whole "I grew up here so let me tell you how it is" philosophy gets so old - and in this case I'd argue it works against you, Heights. Because you haven't lived anywhere else, you can't fully appreciate just how completely awful certain behaviors are here. Your standards are so low because you don't know anything else. No different than someone who grew up among cannibals and thinks there's nothing wrong with eating your fellow man.

So with your theroy we should accept all types of behavior.

Quite the opposite. Like you, I find many things around here to be in dire need of improvement. I just don't accept the rationale that "you aren't from here so you either a) don't understand, or b) don't count" to be even more backward than the behavior you so frequently deplore.

It is the people who have lived elsewhere - who have seen people drive civilly, keep their streets clean, keep their kids out of trouble, get involved in their communities, elect people who don't belong in prisons - who have the experience to maybe bring about some of the needed change you cry out for.

heights wrote:
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T-Bird wrote:
The whole "I grew up here so let me tell you how it is" philosophy gets so old - and in this case I'd argue it works against you, Heights. Because you haven't lived anywhere else, you can't fully appreciate just how completely awful certain behaviors are here. Your standards are so low because you don't know anything else. No different than someone who grew up among cannibals and thinks there's nothing wrong with eating your fellow man.

So with your theroy we should accept all types of behavior.

T-Bird wrote:
The whole "I grew up here so let me tell you how it is" philosophy gets so old - and in this case I'd argue it works against you, Heights. Because you haven't lived anywhere else, you can't fully appreciate just how completely awful certain behaviors are here. Your standards are so low because you don't know anything else. No different than someone who grew up among cannibals and thinks there's nothing wrong with eating your fellow man.

Your standards are so low because you don't know anything else. No different than someone who grew up among cannibals and thinks there's nothing wrong with eating your fellow man.

fat-ass-bike wrote:
Black Honda driver must not be local also - normally you get the bird and they keep going.

+1 for Honda driver for stopping

+1 for you for anticipating careless drivers

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Heights replied:
You sound like a person that hasn't lived in J.C. their whole life. A local would have singled this guy out as an idiot driver not lummped in with the rest of the J.C. driving population. At least he acknowledged what he did, and apologized for it. I'd rather that situation then a guy that cuts me off without realizing it.

Perhaps so, Heights. Indeed, I am NOT a native JC resident. So what? I think you would be hard pressed to find many people who live around here and don't think of JC drivers as nothing more than animals. My experience to date has been very bad. I am extremely careful when I ride my bike, or whenever I drive my car, but I am constantly in fear of an accident. Stop signs all over town are nothing more than Coke signs to most people, and the sheer volume of red-light running is breathtaking. I have seen it all here in good ole JC. I have seen people drive in reverse the entire length of streets (e.g., Gautier) because they are one-way streets and the driver can't be inconvenienced to do the full loop necessary to reach their destination. I have seen people turn left on reds, i have seen people double and triple park. I have seen cars bring down light poles, I have seen cars take the TURN ONLY lanes all the way to the front and then jump into the adjacent lanes while cars are flowing through. Quite honestly, driving in JC is quite an experience.

heights wrote:

Knowing the nationality of the responding people to these postings and where they came from before they moved to J.C. would explain a lot. It's just culture shock, I probably would be shocked if I went to their town as well. I'm sure they have idiots there too, where there's one there's more.

elvis wrote:
Thats right, Heights. Because he hasn't lived in JC his whole life, that makes him unqualified to judge the drivers here?
I have lived here ten years, and in that time, I have come to the conclusion that the drivers here suck balls. Failing to yield or even stop most of the time. Taking that suicide left when the light turns green, or ignoring the light all together. I have seen it all. Your dumbassery constantly astounds me.

Heights replied:
You sound like a person that hasn't lived in J.C. their whole life. A local would have singled this guy out as an idiot driver not lummped in with the rest of the J.C. driving population. At least he acknowledged what he did, and apologized for it. I'd rather that situation then a guy that cuts me off without realizing it.

bodhipooh wrote:
So, today I had a close encounter with one of our adorable JC drivers. This morning, as I was riding my bike home from the gym, I was almost ran over by a black Honda. The dumbass driver was travelling South on Pacific Avenue (heading from Grand towards Communipaw) when he apparently made a last minute decision to make a right turn onto Johnston. The problem is that he never saw me, or perhaps didn't even bother to look, and basically swiped me aside. Truth be told, I am very lucky in that I am constantly watching out for traffic and trying to anticipate people's actions, so I was able to react in a timely manner and came away with nothing more than a bump on my thigh and a scary experience to relay here to all of you. As for the driver, I was half expecting him to just drive away, but the did the decent thing and stopped his car. He asked if I was OK (you could see it in his face that he was SCARED) and apologized several times. I told him I was OK, so he left and I just went home. Hopefully, this was a lesson learned for this driver. I continue to ride, so all is good for now.