r_pinkowitz wrote:


But I was also raised knowing that not everyone was as fortunate as my family was and not everyone had the same opportunity as I did. Some of the most incredible people in this world that have worked to help others and succeeded were NOT politicians, lobbyists, judges, lawyers etc.. To each his own on what part we want to play in our life rolls, and maybe one day a perfect stranger might be the person that will touch your life the most.

GnomeGeneral wrote:

But I was also raised knowing that not everyone was as fortunate as my family was and not everyone had the same opportunity as I did. Some of the most incredible people in this world that have worked to help others and succeeded were NOT politicians, lobbyists, judges, lawyers etc.. To each his own on what part we want to play in our life rolls, and maybe one day a perfect stranger might be the person that will touch your life the most.
You should write "Chicken Soup for the Urban Soul". I'm hoping the strangers will be staying away from my soul in the meantime.

r_pinkowitz wrote:

JM...when you speak with your parents this weekend tell them I said THANK YOU, for their roll in raising a child that is capable of distinguishing the difference between the outrage of the incident and the empathy of wanting to find solutions to fix these problems.

I get what you are saying (and thank you mom and dad_ Pinkowitz too!)

stani wrote:
I was raised to take responsibility for my actions.

stani wrote:
But I'm sure as heck not going to take responsibility for the actions of others, especially perfect strangers.

r_pinkowitz wrote:

JM...when you speak with your parents this weekend tell them I said THANK YOU, for their roll in raising a child that is capable of distinguishing the difference between the outrage of the incident and the empathy of wanting to find solutions to fix these problems.

I get what you are saying (and thank you mom and dad_ Pinkowitz too!)

jennymayla wrote:

Not me, WE.

Class structure.
NIMBY attitude.
Crappy legal system.
Lack of affordable medical care.
Lack of educational support.
Little or no social services (at least not a system that will lift people out of poverty)
Soaring unemployment.
Ignorance.
Desperation.
Racism (oh yeah, i said it)

jennymayla wrote:
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stani wrote:
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jennymayla wrote:

But you're right, they are animals. And we helped create them. You, me, and everyone. I'm not saying they don't deserve to be thrown behind bars or worse for what they are doing. I'm just saying that we're all part of the problem.

Bleed that.

Please explain how you helped to create them.

Not me, WE.

Class structure.
NIMBY attitude.
Crappy legal system.
Lack of affordable medical care.
Lack of educational support.
Little or no social services (at least not a system that will lift people out of poverty)
Soaring unemployment.
Ignorance.
Desperation.
Racism (oh yeah, i said it)

Again, I agree that the young criminals that are terrorizing this city and other urban environments are animals. Because we treat them like animals and expect nothing else from them.

Maybe it's the sunny day and my 2009 resolution to not be so f*cking cynical and throw my hands up in disgrace all the time. Bash that all you want. But it's all of our responsibility to try to fix it. Rather than constantly denigrate an entire class of people and write them off as nothing.

Be angry. We should be angry. Be scared, too, because it's scary. It's out of control.

stani wrote:
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jennymayla wrote:

But you're right, they are animals. And we helped create them. You, me, and everyone. I'm not saying they don't deserve to be thrown behind bars or worse for what they are doing. I'm just saying that we're all part of the problem.

Bleed that.

Please explain how you helped to create them.

jennymayla wrote:

But you're right, they are animals. And we helped create them. You, me, and everyone. I'm not saying they don't deserve to be thrown behind bars or worse for what they are doing. I'm just saying that we're all part of the problem.

Bleed that.

GnomeGeneral wrote:

Nope, not I. Haven't been in JC long enough to create any such nonsense. Their parents maybe, or a lack of them.

jennymayla wrote:
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NewHeights wrote:
GnomeGeneral

the only folks on this board that get angry when we call these dirtbags "animals" are either the animals themselves, the animals family members or bleeding hearts that make a living off these animals.

I'm a bleeding heart (still) and I don't make a penny or any other kind of living off this. Your statement makes no sense.

But you're right, they are animals. And we helped create them. You, me, and everyone. I'm not saying they don't deserve to be thrown behind bars or worse for what they are doing. I'm just saying that we're all part of the problem.

Bleed that.

NewHeights wrote:
GnomeGeneral

the only folks on this board that get angry when we call these dirtbags "animals" are either the animals themselves, the animals family members or bleeding hearts that make a living off these animals.

NewHeights wrote:
GnomeGeneral

the only folks on this board that get angry when we call these dirtbags "animals" are either the animals themselves, the animals family members or bleeding hearts that make a living off these animals.

GnomeGeneral wrote:
So this is the new style of robberies these days. They come in packs like hyenas and folks on here get snippy when we liken certain individuals' behavior to the animal kingdom's. Instead of earning a living for their own damn i-pods they ruin other people's lives over them. I'm curious as to how they split the i-pod and $20 between the five of them. Is there a pack leader who gets all the goods? Does he have a brighter coat and shiner bling to attract the females?

NewHeights wrote:
GnomeGeneral

the only folks on this board that get angry when we call these dirtbags "animals" are either the animals themselves, the animals family members or bleeding hearts that make a living off these animals.

GnomeGeneral wrote:
So this is the new style of robberies these days. They come in packs like hyenas and folks on here get snippy when we liken certain individuals' behavior to the animal kingdom's. Instead of earning a living for their own damn i-pods they ruin other people's lives over them. I'm curious as to how they split the i-pod and $20 between the five of them. Is there a pack leader who gets all the goods? Does he have a brighter coat and shiner bling to attract the females?

JerseyCityNj wrote:
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aoao wrote:
^^^ master of the obvious.

How are you going to call me the master of the obvious when two minutes after this post you point out something even more obvious in another post that somebody else already brought up to begin with?

http://jclist.com/modules/newbb/viewt ... id=187024#forumpost187024

I know it was obvious, I was pointing it out to someone else that was calling it just a robbery. If he didnt think it was an initiation that means there might be a couple others that didnt put it together as well.

JRL wrote:
There are just too much of these crimes going on!

aoao wrote:
^^^ master of the obvious.

GnomeGeneral wrote:
So this is the new style of robberies these days. They come in packs like hyenas and folks on here get snippy when we liken certain individuals' behavior to the animal kingdom's. Instead of earning a living for their own damn i-pods they ruin other people's lives over them. I'm curious as to how they split the i-pod and $20 between the five of them. Is there a pack leader who gets all the goods? Does he have a brighter coat and shiner bling to attract the females?

GrovePath wrote:
...mini-bus at Summit and Pavonia avenues Saturday at 6:30 a.m. when five men threw him to the ground and began kicking and punching him, reports said...