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Yes most cops get more breaks in a day then you get at work. you only see these guys when there not responding to beatings, break ins, car accidents, rapes, murders, attempted murders, sexual assaults, strange smells, strange packages, strange people, crack heads, meth heads, child molesters, domestic abuse, water main breaks, robberies, and so on and so on. i used to be a military police for 4 years and chicago pd for 3. i quit because it is high stress for 8 to 15 hours a day and thats if you can leave the job at the house when your shift is over. TRUE there are a LOT of A holes on any givin police force i know 1st hand i lived it. But just because you see a guy in a cigar shop or a nail salon or eating a hotdog doesn't mean that that the rest of there day isn't high paced in my expeirence if you get 5 mins to decompress you take it because the next call is going to come shortly. I would never say every cop is a hero but that doesn't mean they are lazy or they don't care. some do and some don't
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Anyone ever see the police officers stationed in Newport that used to walk in through the exit of the theater of the mall. They used to go in without saying anything to the employees and watch movies while on duty. I dont know if this still goes on but it wouldnt suprise me if it did.

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You know why you see cops hanging out in certain stores. They get there food and drink for free. They make there own breaks for lunch make illegal u-turns, double park to go get lunch, run stop signs, run red lights just because they can etc. We all know this and see it everyday.

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If I could not graduate college and make 50K to 100K a year I might have my eyebrows threaded as well, it goes well with the uniform.... just dont tell my woman!!

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How about a Jersey City Police Sergeant in uniform, Police car parked outside, getting his eyebrows threaded at an Indian Hair Salon

I have no idea what that means. Is it like getting your eyebrows braided or dreadlocked?



LMAO, FE...One day I will take you to a place that does this, you will see.

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How about a Jersey City Police Sergeant in uniform, Police car parked outside, getting his eyebrows threaded at an Indian Hair Salon

I have no idea what that means. Is it like getting your eyebrows braided or dreadlocked?

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"Jersey City Police Sergeant in uniform getting his eyebrows threaded". HIS eyebrows, wow. But also, maybe they were on their lunch break I should hope. C'mon, theres a CCTV camera right there on the corner

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How about a Jersey City Police Sergeant in uniform, Police car parked outside, getting his eyebrows threaded at an Indian Hair Salon on Newark Avenue near Tonnele at 11 AM while another P.O. waited for him. The Police Car was marked Municipal Court. Life is good.

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I have an idea why don't you walk up to him and tell him that your tax dollars pay his salary and he should stop dragging his lazy ass and get to work. Because i think we can all agree cops love to hear that.

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You are totally unrealistic. How can you possibly enforce your wish-list. It's childish and antiquated. My reference was not inferring white-flight. I mean that the way of life has changed. Generations do not live together in the same apt. bldgs. as they once did in JC. You had several generations in 1 bldg. As far as cops living in Manhattan..... We all know that a single person making 100K just can barely afford a 1 bedroom. Could you raise a family on a cops salary, maybe 85K with OT? You need to be in a different economic strata my friend. Maybe Ray Kelly can afford it.......

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Sorry, the overly defensive attitude of your responses along with the stats ("3 shifts, 24/7, about 1000 cops") reads like you are a cop or have one in your family at least. And it's not this thread only:

http://jclist.com/modules/newbb/viewt ... 9&forum=10&post_id=132435

I think a residency requirement would go a long way towards increasing the quality of policing in this city. At least it would stop JC cops with responding with "why do you live here?" when taking a crime report (I think everyone in this town has one of these stories.)

Your arguments are weak. Yes, I would like teachers and firefighters to live here too. Yes, I think NYC should have similar requirements. "The world has changed, as did the demographics." -- not so sure about that one, sounds like a half-assed apology for white flight. And as for the taxes, people were complaining here about JC taxes which pay for JC police. If those police are paying their own taxes to other municipalities, then the 'cops pay taxes too' arguement in meaningless in this regard.

I think we've got some overly anti-cop people in this thread, and some overly pro-cop ones as well. I land somewhere in the middle, as I've seen both the good and bad while living here. And I'm honestly curious what percentage of cops live here, and would appreciate anyone who could answer the question with numbers instead of rhetorical questions.


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Sorry I'm not a cop. You might want to pose your statistical question to teachers and firemen too. How many NYPD cops do you think live in Manhattan????? It would be great if they all lived here as they did in the"old days". The world has changed, as did the demographics. Anyhow, what does this have to do with the quality of policing? If those folks don't live here they pay taxes where they live.

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Mine either, but I have seen them in other apt. bldgs. and projects. So what are you saying they spent their whole shift there? If someone watched you at work would your productivity outpiut be 100%. C'mon.

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When a cop is on patrol he generally steps into businesses, apt bldgs., and establishes a rapport with the community. What do you think the job entails???? How would you patrol when not responding to a call. These guys have posts that they tend to, specific areas that they must protect. Try it for about a month. Your opinion would change. Please remember there are 3 shifts, 24/7, about 1000 cops. Most of them are good people who pay taxes and experience the same pains as we do. Stop your hatred.


Believe me, these guys didn't make it past the Cigar Shop. And no cop ever stopped by my apartment building.

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Sorry I'm not a cop. You might want to pose your statistical question to teachers and firemen too. How many NYPD cops do you think live in Manhattan????? It would be great if they all lived here as they did in the"old days". The world has changed, as did the demographics. Anyhow, what does this have to do with the quality of policing? If those folks don't live here they pay taxes where they live.

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To the couple of cops who are obviously on this thread, can you tell me what percentage of JC's police force actually live here and pay property taxes to the city? My impression is it's well below half.

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When a cop is on patrol he generally steps into businesses, apt bldgs., and establishes a rapport with the community. What do you think the job entails???? How would you patrol when not responding to a call. These guys have posts that they tend to, specific areas that they must protect. Try it for about a month. Your opinion would change. Please remember there are 3 shifts, 24/7, about 1000 cops. Most of them are good people who pay taxes and experience the same pains as we do. Stop your hatred.

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A cop who is clearly on duty and clearly oversteps her/his bounds (i.e., rudeness to dogwalkers in Hamilton Park maybe) or routinelyshirking duty by hanging out and eating donuts or smoking cigars when they should be doing something else need to get checked, yes.

I'm not seeing substantial evidence of any of these infractions in this case. On the other hand, if you're getting a bad feeling about it, go ahead and report him/them.

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Well to put it back on topic I would suggest photographing the cop or his bike and forwarding it to the East District. A few years ago a cop near Hamilton Park actually got reprimanded for chatting with the people in the park. I am all for community policing but I would say those cigars are safe enough and it's time to check on the rest of the community!


This is why I love us. Just last week people we're bitching about cops being too aggressive in Hamilton Park and now we are talking about photographing them and turning them in.

So passive aggressive and lovely!

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They are always there...
Anytime my husband is in there there are always a few policemen around (smoking cigars). I am pretty sure they are not there for safety...

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Well to put it back on topic I would suggest photographing the cop or his bike and forwarding it to the East District. A few years ago a cop near Hamilton Park actually got reprimanded for chatting with the people in the park. I am all for community policing but I would say those cigars are safe enough and it's time to check on the rest of the community!

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I don't understand the connection between one cop who had an aggression problem and probably killed two people wrongly and a different cop smoking cigars at Sky Tobacco.

Definitely could be on break. And if you don't get one on your job, that sucks but it's not his problem. Want a break? Demand one.

Why does this particular sight irk you so? Who cares?

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F*ck the PO-lice! You ever heard of Maximino Cintron? Yeah me neither I just moved to JC from NY in June! But because of the absolute laziness and or disregard for graffiti in the Hamilton Park area, I read that name on the Sixth street embankment and now I know that the police in 1991 shot this innocent man to death. The fact that this defacement still exists and the police do nothing to remove it is a representation of their lack of respect for the neighborhood in general.


Although I didn't know him that well I did play Basketball with Maximo a couple of times in Hamilton Park. I remember when the shooting happened. The cop who shot him was actually transporting a prisoner. Maximo was tinting his car windows under the train trestle and the cop stopped to issue him a summons. It is illegal to do certain types of work on your car on the streets in JC but it was obvious at the time that this cop had a h*rd-on for Maximo. The confrontation escalated and the cop shot him. I am pretty sure that this cop was involved in another questionable shooting a couple years later and eventually kicked off the force.

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http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage ... 039F935A15753C1A967958260

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage ... 431F935A25756C0A963958260

and finally prison.
http://www.stanglerlaw.com/CM/InTheNews/InTheNews21.asp


How did this post go from a cop hanging out at the cigar shop to some dude who got shot 18 years ago ???

"Adult ADD ALERT"!!!!!

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at 6-630 pm? Is that some sort of Dinner Break?


Sounds like dinner break. I really don't see a problem with this.

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yeah I concur:
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F*ck the PO-lice! You ever heard of Maximino Cintron? Yeah me neither I just moved to JC from NY in June! But because of the absolute laziness and or disregard for graffiti in the Hamilton Park area, I read that name on the Sixth street embankment and now I know that the police in 1991 shot this innocent man to death. The fact that this defacement still exists and the police do nothing to remove it is a representation of their lack of respect for the neighborhood in general.


Although I didn't know him that well I did play Basketball with Maximo a couple of times in Hamilton Park. I remember when the shooting happened. The cop who shot him was actually transporting a prisoner. Maximo was tinting his car windows under the train trestle and the cop stopped to issue him a summons. It is illegal to do certain types of work on your car on the streets in JC but it was obvious at the time that this cop had a h*rd-on for Maximo. The confrontation escalated and the cop shot him. I am pretty sure that this cop was involved in another questionable shooting a couple years later and eventually kicked off the force.

Edit: Just found these.

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage ... 039F935A15753C1A967958260

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage ... 431F935A25756C0A963958260

and finally prison.
http://www.stanglerlaw.com/CM/InTheNews/InTheNews21.asp

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F*ck the PO-lice! You ever heard of Maximino Cintron? Yeah me neither I just moved to JC from NY in June! But because of the absolute laziness and or disregard for graffiti in the Hamilton Park area, I read that name on the Sixth street embankment and now I know that the police in 1991 shot this innocent man to death. The fact that this defacement still exists and the police do nothing to remove it is a representation of their lack of respect for the neighborhood in general.

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Well im sure you get a lunch break, right? and maybe a piss break here and there? I'm sure the cigar owner shop has a restroom in there that the cop can use. And haven't you ever heard of community policing?
Tax dollars, tax dollars.....cops pay tax dollars too to this damn city.

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I think he might be investigating a very important heist, over the course of a few months. You know how those cigar shop heists are! Brutal!
You give me a break!
Cops get breaks??? I don't get breaks during the day! Do they earn tax dollars for these so called breaks??? at 6-630 pm? Is that some sort of Dinner Break?
F that this is BS!!! And you sir are part of the machine! I call BS on you!!

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Are you guys really serious? Maybe the guy is investigating something. Maybe the owner is his friend. He can be on a break. Shop owners like to have cops around.

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Haven't you ever heard of the tobacco police?

Its this cops duty to make sure that the tobacco being sold has the right tar content as per the label. It is his job to sample some to make sure everything is correct.

Its bit like the liquor cops - they need to sample some to insure the alcohol content is correct, so nobody gets ripped-off.

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