GrovePath wrote:
Thanks for being smart and reading carefully Elvis!

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elvis wrote:... I think Grove was simply taken out of context and did not mean to imply you were one of the bad posters. This whole situation stinks thanks to some idiot 19-year-old. It ends there.

GrovePath wrote:
I have nothing to retract - and it is naive to believe some urban hoax about a gang initiation where 36 girls need to be shot.

I am off this thread though!

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jillianp wrote:
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jillianp wrote:

So then, what is the point of you stating that I started the post? I mean, besides you showing how acute you are. I am curious...

My point was that the young man posting under the name of "Tom" did not start the tread -- it was a reaction to GW's post.

Even at the time, I always assumed you were just naively reacting to an urban hoax floating around the schools -- something your husband reported to you -- and I think that is obvious to anyone who reads the tread.

Wow thanks GP for retracting your statement and calling me naive...this just keeps getting better!

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jillianp wrote:

So then, what is the point of you stating that I started the post? I mean, besides you showing how acute you are. I am curious...

My point was that the young man posting under the name of "Tom" did not start the tread -- it was a reaction to GW's post.

Even at the time, I always assumed you were just naively reacting to an urban hoax floating around the schools -- something your husband reported to you -- and I think that is obvious to anyone who reads the tread.

Vigilante wrote:
I totally agree with JillianP. GP wondered why the cops went after this kid "alone". This seems to imply that others did something wrong and you called JillianP out by name. That was a cheap shot. Maybe GP just needs to choose his words more carefully next time?

GrovePath wrote:
No i did not - read more carefully -- I only stated that you were the OP not this kid who was arrested.

In the tread itself you accuse another poster of being one and the same as "Tom" the handle the kid used.

Anyone interested should go and re-read the original thread.

http://jclist.com/modules/newbb/viewt ... =ASC&type=&mode=0&start=0

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jillianp wrote:
GP, you were obviously stating in your other post that I was somehow responsible...

If this thread caused so many problems and the police took action...why is it still accessible on the site? Doesn't that defeat the purpose?

GrovePath wrote:
I only said that Jillian was the OP - not that she was trying to start a hoax. I agree with GW that there were other posters who really pushed this rumor/hoax - I also pointed out that this kid who was arrested might have posted under more than one screen name.

People should go back and read the thread itself!
http://jclist.com/modules/newbb/viewt ... =ASC&type=&mode=0&start=0

GrovePath wrote:
Yeah the person who started this thread was Jillianp (see posting below)

I'm not sure why the police went after this one kid alone - but maybe the cops know that he did more -- perhaps he posted under more than one screen name or something -- I doubt the webmaster can comment on any of this - but we will all know in time.

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jillianp wrote:
"My husband tutors a highschool girl that goes to an all girls high school in JC, and apparently they were let out early today because the bloods and/or crips are to kill 35 girls for gang initiation tonight.

Does this happen every year or what? I tried to look it up online but can't find a source.

http://jclist.com/modules/newbb/viewt ... =ASC&type=&mode=0&start=0

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GeorgeWBush wrote:
...if you go through that thread there were others who fed the fire on this one..... In fact, the guy that got busted isn't even the first one who claimed to have gotten information from a cop... 5 shot in Bayonne. 2 shot in Harrison... that claim came from someone laughing on the current thread... or at least that person said they heard it from a co-worker. Did that also prove to be untrue?

The guy who was arrested said in a later post that he was listening to his scanner & heard nothing about the shootings.

Obviously mens rea will be paramount- if you pull a fire alarm in a theater when there's no fire, but you thought there was a fire, it is not a crime. You could be an over-reacting drama queen, but fortunately (or unfortunately) that is not indictable...

greenville wrote:
PWND! Greenvillechick is going die when she hears this!

Greenvillechick wrote:
Well he probablly couldnt understand what the guy was saying through a towel. LOL although if someone walked up to me with a black towel over their head I MAY think i'm about to be robbed or I think im getting a surprise makeover?!

GrovePath wrote:
MARION SECTION
Mugger held knife to his throat

When the man said he did not understand, the robber took out a silver knife and held it the man's throat, reports said.

aloria wrote:
The car flyer thing is the worst. Lots of people don't even take those flyers to the garbage and just throw them in the street. When those glossy cards get wet they glue themselves to your windshield; I've had to spend a good 20 minutes scraping bits of paper off my glass with a razor blade because someone left like 3 of those cards on my car on a wet day.

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jennymayla wrote:
I feel like we need a GrovePath Style Guide or some other sort of rules of order...
.. always crappy news...

No reason to get all nasty -- BTW the Journal itself has now added the term "gang" to its newest headline/ update:

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Two more arrests at Dickinson High, and a gang attack reported

by The Jersey Journal
Tuesday November 18, 2008

There were two more arrests outside Dickinson High School yesterday afternoon, and three students were attacked by a gang not far from the Jersey City school, police said this morning.

The Jersey Journal reported in today's editions that three teens -- two 16-year-olds and a 15-year-old, were arrested yesterday. The police also arrested an 18 -year-old -- Daniel Anthony Green, of Van Wagenen Avenue, and charged him with rioting, aggravated assault and resisting arrest, cops said.

Green got into a fight inside the school and knocked a student unconscious, police said.

A 17-year-old was charged with obstruction when he refused to go through a metal detector at the doors of the school at lunchtime, police said.

Also, a 16-year-old boy told police he and two friends were attacked by a group of 15 former Dickinson High students while walking home after school yesterday. The boy said the attackers were part of a gang called the "Summit Mob," which is frequently seen around Summit Avenue and Poplar Street.

The boy said his hand was cut when he tried to defend himself from a machete swung by one of his assailants, a police report said. When he fled, the group pounced on his two friends and beat them with baseball bats, the cops were told.

jennymayla wrote:
I feel like we need a GrovePath Style Guide or some other sort of rules of order on how you come up with these headlines and what you choose to post.

It seems so arbitrary -- and always crappy news -- and just an overall bummer.

Sorry. I lova ya, but it's just too much sometimes.

Loopy wrote:
It could be worse. The Donald could be building a 1,400 acre golf course on some of your country's most beautiful coastline:

Linky

And even if you don't read the above, you've got to click on it just to see the photo the Telegraph used of Trump.

jc_dweller wrote:
I'm glad to hear that others are perpelxed by the "cheerleaders" on the roadside. I was never a cheerleader, but when fundraising as a child for whatever I WAS involved in, we never held buckets to passing by cars without "earning" it. Wash a car, bake a cookie, do SOMETHING!

And as far as the boys in the parking lot (I'm talking to you, Target) selling candies out of a big box, that is just insane. Does Target (or wherever) not have the power to stop this from happening on their property??

GangsterNo1 wrote:
Jillian, that is definitely a thought, but I'll give the benefit of the doubt. Next time, I'm going to ask when's the next game.

GangsterNo1 wrote:
My favourite badgering is 1. The 25 year olds selling candy out of the box and saying it's for the HS football team and 2. the cheerleaders at the corner of 14th and Erie collecting money.

I am all for fundraising, but lets have more creativity, some actual work to earn the money for your organisation would be fantastic.

ryanone wrote:
all, thanks for the feedback, it is greatly appreciated...

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jillianp wrote:
Also, you have to pay for the damn thing...

Are you referring to the police report, are you serious?

ryanone wrote:
indeed it is, already spent about an hour on the phone w/ my insurance company... they were able to match the license plate to the make/model of the car... i'm trying to push the JCPD on the driver information to see if I can verify if they have insurance... called JCPD today and was notified that it takes about 3-5 business days to process the police reports (I filed the report on Saturday)... lmao... I thought the lady was joking, but unfortunately she was serious... was told to call back on Thursday...

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GeorgeWBush wrote:
Actually I read this morning that turnout was flat from 04.

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/20 ... not-near-a-record-yethfo/


Democrats turned out & Republicans didn't. That simple.

Encouraging to conservatives because McCain could have won, but he failed to energize his party.

Encouraging to the left because, while the magical mythical "youth vote" apparently didn't materialize, AGAIN, they got the base fired up & in motion. That won the election this time, just like it does every other time. Which means it doesn't have to be a one off, isn't a miracle. Miracles aren't consistent. No talk about "maintaining the high level of 2008" in 2012 in terms of bringing in "new" voters. Just need to keep your players off the bench & in the game.

So Obama was no different than any other candidate in terms of "bringing people into the process" or anything like that- His peeps liked him more than McCain's peeps liked McCain.

Numbers are prelim, as noted in the article, but does seem to suggest that this was a plain ol' ground game in the end.

GWB

Wow Bush...like our 43rd president, you are always full of profound and accurate insight!

Hmmm I do believe I detect....sarcasm? Was that sarcasm?


Was there something about my post that upset you? It really wasn't at all partisan or controversial.....


GWB

GeorgeWBush wrote:
Actually I read this morning that turnout was flat from 04.

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/20 ... not-near-a-record-yethfo/


Democrats turned out & Republicans didn't. That simple.

Encouraging to conservatives because McCain could have won, but he failed to energize his party.

Encouraging to the left because, while the magical mythical "youth vote" apparently didn't materialize, AGAIN, they got the base fired up & in motion. That won the election this time, just like it does every other time. Which means it doesn't have to be a one off, isn't a miracle. Miracles aren't consistent. No talk about "maintaining the high level of 2008" in 2012 in terms of bringing in "new" voters. Just need to keep your players off the bench & in the game.

So Obama was no different than any other candidate in terms of "bringing people into the process" or anything like that- His peeps liked him more than McCain's peeps liked McCain.

Numbers are prelim, as noted in the article, but does seem to suggest that this was a plain ol' ground game in the end.

GWB

Trubrit wrote:
Say what you like. If you focused more on solving the problem rather than joining the Obama cult - you'd be more understanding.

Switching from trickle down economics to bottom up economics is going to cause the country to flatline for 6 months.

How does the Koolaid taste the morning after? Maybe you can all chant "yes we can" to stay warm?