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Re: New PATH Station - Marion
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And why would they choose to do that? Technically they don't have to cooperate with EITHER city it operates in.
Posted on: 2014/8/8 16:06
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Re: New PATH Station - Marion
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The Port Authoritys' hope for its future in a post Samson world lies with the cooperation of the cities in which it operates. Though too early to pinpoint there are signs the PA is back-pedaling on some key issues that will dramatically alter the landscape.
Posted on: 2014/8/8 15:54
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Re: New PATH Station - Marion
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Remember the 9 train? That was skip-stop along the 1 that was discontinued when they realized how retarded an idea it is for a train on a single track to skip stations. Buses can skip stations because they are not confined to a track. Maybe you can get NJTransit to install a Marion bus station. The Port Authority had no interest in building a station there when Healy suggested it four years ago. They certainly don't have more interest in the idea now.
Posted on: 2014/8/8 15:24
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I've seen the train to NYC, PACKED leaving JoSq before 7am on a recent saturday. A few were left standing at Grove and Pavonia. If it starts in Marion I will consider walking down there just to get in.
Posted on: 2014/8/7 21:56
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NYC buses do the alternate "skip-hop" routine daily and it works splendidly. The notion that one would not want the MANA crowd to see the non-downtown JC people is absurd. New Yorkers see a broad range of passengers on a daily basis. There is nothing unique about our population except that we are more now than before. All the majhor planning studies done by outside groups and agencies in the last few decades have affirmed the need for advanced commuter mechanisms. In the 60's Journal Square, the present PATH building site, was to be the home of the World Trade Center rather than Manhattan. Our perspective would have certainly been altered if it was built here.
Posted on: 2014/8/7 21:45
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Mana pushing for it is not a quiet rumor - they're really pushing hard for it, and I bet they're pushing for the "skip over JSQ" solution so the Manhattanites don't have to see non-downtown JC.
Posted on: 2014/8/7 21:08
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I don't agree, it is a capacity problem, just wait for winter coats and school children/young adult returning to school in NYC.
Posted on: 2014/8/7 20:12
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For all the talk about expanding capacity and adding new stops, it seems like the best solution is just to run trains more often. PATH is crowded at rush hour, yes, but my biggest gripes are not at rush hour but at random off-peak times when you wait 20 minutes for a train and there are 5 billion people trying to get on with you.
Or, for example, just not running the WTC train on weekends anymore. I just don't think it's a capacity problem, I think it's a service problem.
Posted on: 2014/8/7 20:07
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The naysayers on this post must cringe that there are intelligent people seeking solutions to the PATH commute. Mana has suggested a Marion stop and scores of residents endorse the stop. If one is familiar with the area you could see there is adequate space for an outdoor platform, no frills, on either side. PATH will not be the primary caregiver here but if our elected officials and developers come forward united then perhaps PATH will respond affirmatively. In the meantime it is incumbent upon we, the people, to move forward with bold, new ideas paving the way for a better Jersey City and a brighter tomorrow.
Posted on: 2014/8/7 19:55
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PA cops? worse than NYPD.
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Posted on: 2014/8/7 17:58
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I was on the PATH a few years ago, and one of the windows blew out en route, the edge striking a tourist standing near the door. (this was one of the old cars.) when we pulled into Newport, the police sauntered over as the man proceeded to take photos of the windowless door as evidence of what came thisclose to killing him. they, being reasonable PA cops, threatened to arrest the tourist.
Posted on: 2014/8/7 17:47
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Interesting.
http://www.nycsubway.org/wiki/Subway_FAQ:_Photo_Permit_Information Of all the freaking subway lines, PATH is the only one in this country prohibiting photos. Ridiculous.
Posted on: 2014/8/7 17:23
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I've heard rumors that Mana Comtemporary has been quietly pushing for the Marion Ave PATH station. This would obviously benefit them tremendously because it would stop right at their front door rather than people having to walk 10 mins from JSQ. I have also heard they are willing to assist in funding it partly. Its probably just a bad rumor and probably not going to happen regardless.
Posted on: 2014/8/7 16:54
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I also have 12 of these in my apt. 
Posted on: 2014/8/7 16:01
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It's true, and they can be really strict about it. A few years ago I even saw a cop threaten to arrest a tourist for taking a photo of her toddler's first train ride.
Somewhere I have a set of illustrations based on complaint letters to the London Underground from ~100 years ago, and one of them is "please build a station at the end of my street." Times haven't changed.
Posted on: 2014/8/7 15:50
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Sadly, it actually is true. This doesn't excuse heights from being a crybaby tattletale though.
Posted on: 2014/8/7 14:54
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Yes, and the gustapo will come after you if they catch you taking a picture. Just like if you break the other rules like eating/drinking, leaning on doors. http://www.panynj.gov/path/security.html Yes, I want to see Path improvements, but this isn't any worse than some subway lines, and this isn't a some sort of cover up operation, stop being a fear mongering drama queen.
Posted on: 2014/8/7 14:54
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Of course it is illegal, PATH does not want to public see how crowded the trains are, they rather spend our money on building towers.
Posted on: 2014/8/7 14:41
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Posted on: 2014/8/7 14:27
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C'mon - we can fit a LOT more people on the PATH. We aren't even really trying...
Posted on: 2014/8/7 13:19
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The PA isn't likely to be adding stations anytime soon, so this is kind of silly. But Yvonne, can we drop the affectation of calling it "Pavonia"? The name of the station is Newport now. We all get that you've been here since the ice age.
Posted on: 2014/8/7 12:34
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Hey JaeTea it is illegal to take pictures on PATH property unless you have a authorized permit.
Posted on: 2014/8/7 12:27
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Get on your bikes and ride !
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This is 2008. 2008!!!!!
 Sandy was FUN!!  Wait...how many new apartment rental are going up in JC???   Think its gotten better?!?!? PATH doesn't give two shits. You people are fooling yourselves.
Posted on: 2014/8/7 12:02
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Anyone who says the trains aren't that bad is fooling themselves. On the, thankfully few, occasions I have taken the train at peak rush-hour they are packed to capacity. On each occasion people literally could not fit onto the trains. PATH is doomed unless they come up with billions for improvements. Even if they do it will take years for the work to be completed. F-PATH!
Posted on: 2014/8/7 4:49
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Hold on, let's step back for a sec and look at this.
There are already plans in place to: a) increase capacity on WTC trains by adding more cars b) increase frequency of all trains, by lowering the required headspace between trains with modern signaling (of course PA has to follow through by actually scheduling more trains to realize this potential improvement) If there were a separate train running from Marion, it would cut the frequency of the existing lines. Yvonne's proposal means less service at JSQ and Grove to accommodate the additional trains that just pass on by... does that sound like a good idea? Now, let's follow the money. Who benefits from this plan? Definitely not PATH users Downtown or at JSQ - they're the big losers. I don't know if property owners/developers in those areas would be hurt as much - but they definitely won't be helped. PATH riders in Marion would have a small benefit (perhaps a 5- or 10-minute walk to the train, instead of a 10- or 15-minute walk - although train service from both Marion and JSQ would be less frequent than it currently is from JSQ - keep that in mind). The real winners would be property owners & developers in Marion. It's no surprise that they would advocate for their interests - but this plan can't happen without hurting PATH riders who use the existing stations in JC. PS - I ride PATH from JSQ now, and a Marion station would be sightly more convenient for me. But the setup as described still sounds like a bad idea.
Posted on: 2014/8/7 3:13
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Grove and Harrison don't support 10 yet. They're the ones that need extending so the WTC line can run longer trains.
Posted on: 2014/8/7 2:14
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Posted on: 2014/8/7 2:12
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Correct me if I'm wrong.
The following stations support 10 cars: Newark, Harrison, Journal Sq, Grove St, Exchange Pl, WTC THe following stations support only 7 cars: Newport, Christopher, 9, 14, 23, 33
Posted on: 2014/8/7 1:12
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It also depends on the time of the day rush hour occurs. It is easier during summer when people are wearing thinner garments but come winter heavier coats adds to the crowded feeling. Also come September students from JC return to NYC private, Catholic, even some public schools, not including colleges. We need to address this problem before 25 Senate Place or the 3 KRE towers next to the PATH at Journal Square are occupied. Fulop said in one of his press release there are 17,000 units approve for construction. I am sure many will take the PATH.
Posted on: 2014/8/7 1:04
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Could you maybe respond to the points I took the time to outline?
Posted on: 2014/8/7 0:45
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