Nori wrote:
Yvonne - you are the reason why I lose faith in humanity

If you really are a teacher, let me know what school you're at so I can put up a "deaf child" type of sign outside to show that there's a complete fckn moron teaching at that school.

Yvonne wrote:
bodhipooh, I truly feel sorry for you. You are incapable of having a discussion without attacking someone. I also feel sorry for the people who are in your inner circle. Life must be difficult for them, too.

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caj11 wrote:
Most importantly, illegals who rent apartments in Jersey City or anywhere else are ultimately contributing to the property tax base, which is the main source of funding for our schools.

Ahem... in JC, property taxes are a TINY source of the funding of public schools. The vast majority of the JC PS budget comes from the state. As bad as our taxes may be right now, they could be a LOT WORSE if the state was to cut back on how much they contribute to our public school funding. In fact, it would be crippling.

caj11 wrote:
Most importantly, illegals who rent apartments in Jersey City or anywhere else are ultimately contributing to the property tax base, which is the main source of funding for our schools.

Yvonne wrote:
When did I say Puerto Ricans are not US citizens?

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Monroe wrote:
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Monroe wrote:
Nonsense about illegal aliens not getting public assistance. An illegal alien with, say, 3 kids in a Jersey City school is stealing over $60,000/year from JC and NJ taxpayers. Throw in free lunches, preK, and it's more. All money being stolen from our kids and wallets.

The law requires all public schools to take the children of illegal aliens, which is a problem, I get that.

But how, exactly, are children of illegal aliens qualifying for free lunches and free pre-K? There are forms to fill out for that and your status as a citizen or resident alien has to be verified. Unless the people processing those forms are slacking and not doing the proper verifications.

Better still, go to this link, and read the myth about illegal aliens not paying taxes but still getting government benefits.

http://www.tolerance.org/immigration-myths

Most importantly, illegals who rent apartments in Jersey City or anywhere else are ultimately contributing to the property tax base, which is the main source of funding for our schools.

To the tune of over $20,000 per year per child? Er, no. Besides, the property taxes in JC pay only for 16% of the cost of JC schools.

Well then I guess all of us legal citizens don't contribute to the costs of the schools any more than illegal immigrants do.

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Monroe wrote:
Nonsense about illegal aliens not getting public assistance. An illegal alien with, say, 3 kids in a Jersey City school is stealing over $60,000/year from JC and NJ taxpayers. Throw in free lunches, preK, and it's more. All money being stolen from our kids and wallets.

The law requires all public schools to take the children of illegal aliens, which is a problem, I get that.

But how, exactly, are children of illegal aliens qualifying for free lunches and free pre-K? There are forms to fill out for that and your status as a citizen or resident alien has to be verified. Unless the people processing those forms are slacking and not doing the proper verifications.

Better still, go to this link, and read the myth about illegal aliens not paying taxes but still getting government benefits.

http://www.tolerance.org/immigration-myths

Most importantly, illegals who rent apartments in Jersey City or anywhere else are ultimately contributing to the property tax base, which is the main source of funding for our schools.

To the tune of over $20,000 per year per child? Er, no. Besides, the property taxes in JC pay only for 16% of the cost of JC schools.

Monroe wrote:
Nonsense about illegal aliens not getting public assistance. An illegal alien with, say, 3 kids in a Jersey City school is stealing over $60,000/year from JC and NJ taxpayers.

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Monroe wrote:
Nonsense about illegal aliens not getting public assistance. An illegal alien with, say, 3 kids in a Jersey City school is stealing over $60,000/year from JC and NJ taxpayers. Throw in free lunches, preK, and it's more. All money being stolen from our kids and wallets.

The law requires all public schools to take the children of illegal aliens, which is a problem, I get that.

But how, exactly, are children of illegal aliens qualifying for free lunches and free pre-K? There are forms to fill out for that and your status as a citizen or resident alien has to be verified. Unless the people processing those forms are slacking and not doing the proper verifications.

Better still, go to this link, and read the myth about illegal aliens not paying taxes but still getting government benefits.

http://www.tolerance.org/immigration-myths

Most importantly, illegals who rent apartments in Jersey City or anywhere else are ultimately contributing to the property tax base, which is the main source of funding for our schools.

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dtjcview wrote:
To blame increasing rents on illegal immigration is laughable and idiotic.

What's laughable is thinking affordable housing is a civil right.

Can I get a nice flat at the Dakota for $800/month? I'll settle for the San Remo. Or 15 Central Park.

Yvonne wrote:
In my article I said the factory mangers/owners hired workers from Puerto Rico. I did not label them illegal or legal, I was stating a fact. After the factories closed Puerto Ricans continue to arrive and I said that contributed to the housing shortage. I did not call anyone illegal or immigrant. This thread is about rising rent. I saw rent rise after the influx of workers from Puerto Rico due to the factories enticing them with jobs.

Monroe wrote:
Nonsense about illegal aliens not getting public assistance. An illegal alien with, say, 3 kids in a Jersey City school is stealing over $60,000/year from JC and NJ taxpayers. Throw in free lunches, preK, and it's more. All money being stolen from our kids and wallets.

Monroe wrote:
All money being stolen from our kids and wallets.

dtjcview wrote:
To blame increasing rents on illegal immigration is laughable and idiotic.

Yvonne wrote:
When did I say Puerto Ricans are not US citizens?

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JadedJC wrote:
Yes, let's deport all the illegal immigrants to free up housing. And then watch you all complain about how you can't find babysitters/nannies, slow service at restaurants, no food deliveries, having to clean your own home and lettuce costing $6 a head at Shop Rite, among a myriad of other woes. Can you guys possibly be any more short sighted?

That's just a dumb, dumb statement.
What would really happen is:
1) We would have to pay higher wages to entice the remaining people that want to work as babysitter/nannies to do so. Essentially the minimum wage would be naturally raised instead of artificially raised by the government.
2) there is rampant slow service in restaurants as it is. Illegal immigrants don't ensure prompt service.
3) We will still have food deliveries if we want to pay more for it. Again the minimum wage would be naturally raised.
4) Same logic applies to having to cleaning my own home. And there is nothing impossible about doing it myself.
5) If I don't want to pay $6 per head for lettuce I'll buy something cheaper.

And the best part is the reduction in my Medicare taxes will be applied to any of these extra costs I voluntarily choose to pay.

That's the correct long sighted view......

Yvonne wrote:
No, but there is a thing called common sense. originally I lived in Hoboken as a child. Then Hoboken was a factory town. Hostess Cupcake, Lipton Tea, Maxwell House, etc. The owners of the factories complained there wasn't enough workers for their plants so they purchased buildings on Washington St and Garden St and hired workers from Puerto Rico. A year later, many of these owners decided it was cheaper to have a plant elsewhere. But in the meantime more immigrants from Puerto Rico was arriving in Hoboken and I saw the housing market become tight. Rents in Hoboken in the early 1960s were $50.00 to under $100.00 per month.

Yvonne wrote:
No, but there is a thing called common sense.

Yvonne wrote:
No, but there is a thing called common sense. originally I lived in Hoboken as a child. Then Hoboken was a factory town. Hostess Cupcake, Lipton Tea, Maxwell House, etc. The owners of the factories complained there wasn't enough workers for their plants so they purchased buildings on Washington St and Garden St and hired workers from Puerto Rico. A year later, many of these owners decided it was cheaper to have a plant elsewhere. But in the meantime more immigrants from Puerto Rico was arriving in Hoboken and I saw the housing market become tight. Rents in Hoboken in the early 1960s were $50.00 to under $100.00 per month. Towards the end of the 1960's rents were approaching $200.00. Hoboken now had a housing shortage. Many escaped to JC where rents were still cheaper. Did people collect data? No, they just left Hoboken and some developers realized the demand for housing. Hoboken changed from a factory town to a residential town in the 1970s and the rents continue to raise. My friend lives in Hoboken and pays $3,500 a month. Close to the yearly salary of many Hoboken factory workers.

JadedJC wrote:
Yes, let's deport all the illegal immigrants to free up housing. And then watch you all complain about how you can't find babysitters/nannies, slow service at restaurants, no food deliveries, having to clean your own home and lettuce costing $6 a head at Shop Rite, among a myriad of other woes. Can you guys possibly be any more short sighted?