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Re: Shoes on the Power Lines
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Whats the big deal!? I dont think the sure present any danger to the power lines, and in my opinion they adorn and personalize cityscapes just like graffitti. I like the shoes on the power lines, they make me think of NYC, Brooklyn and yes, Jersey City...

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I think it would be a good idea if the city could do something about the sneakers on the utility wires. You can read snopes all you want but sometimes people buy into urban myths, like some people in this thread. Except some people might not be so innocent, and might decide that the presence of sneakers on wires is basically an open invitation to break whatever laws they feel like breaking, up to and possibly including drug dealing and property crimes.

What department would be responsible for this? Is there a way to fine people for this "wire litter"?

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If someone's caught in the act they can be ticketed for littering. And I'm not sure that shoes on power lines are an open invitation to crime but they're certainly unsightly, so if you have specific locations you'd like the city to clean up I'd report them.

I've had good luck using their online reporting system (not for shoes but for tree trimming and uncollected trash). I usually attach a picture to my request. They don't have a specific category for shoes but I think they'd fit under either "Trash/Recycling" or "Graffiti/Vandalism." http://mycusthelp.com/JERSEYCITYNJ/_cs/RequestSelect.aspx

Councilman Fulop's office is also very responsive about quality of life issues, if you don't get a response from the city.

And/or the utility company(ies) should certainly be willing and able to clean up their lines - but I'm not actually sure who owns which lines so am imagining it might actually be less of a hassle to go through local govt.

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I think it would be a good idea if the city could do something about the sneakers on the utility wires. You can read snopes all you want but sometimes people buy into urban myths, like some people in this thread. Except some people might not be so innocent, and might decide that the presence of sneakers on wires is basically an open invitation to break whatever laws they feel like breaking, up to and possibly including drug dealing and property crimes.

What department would be responsible for this? Is there a way to fine people for this "wire litter"?

- J.R. Martinez, Esq.

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Someone told me that sneakers being hang on telephone line indicate that drugs are sold at the location. Is that true? If so, I would be surprised because I see them around the corner from my apartment!!

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Don't worry - that's just an urban legend.

http://www.snopes.com/crime/gangs/sneakers.asp

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I dunno, I've seen them up on lines in places with no buildings, so...

More likely it's just a spot where either:
a) somebody's shoes wore out
b) a nerd was caught by jocks
c) a baller got shot, yo!

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Hi,

Someone told me that sneakers being hang on telephone line indicate that drugs are sold at the location. Is that true? If so, I would be surprised because I see them around the corner from my apartment!!

Thanks.

Atsushi

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I heard that this is how Verizon and Comcast mark their territory.

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what else is one suppose to do with old shoes?

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I don?t know when this rumor began, but I know from experience that we used to throw our shoes up on the wires here in JC back when I was a kid in the 80s. There were a pair or two outside my very house, and trust me, mom and dad were neither selling nor marking gang territory.

It was just something to do. Someone mentioned boredom, and I?d say that?s about right.

And, I can?t imagine that something that was so common suddenly turned into drug dealer markings. Besides, wouldn?t that be a huge tip-off to the authorities? Most dealers are smarter than that. As far as gang tags? That?s a maybe if, say, like a neighborhood is lined with Red sneakers and nothing else. Or, blue sneakers and nothing else or whatever gang colors/insignia?that might make sense.

Otherwise, it?s an urban legend, and I wouldn't worry about it.

But, you guys should try it sometime. It?s not as easy to get them up there as you might think. And, it is kinda fun when you take turns. Of course, it is destruction of property.

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When I was a kid in the 60's in another state far, far away, there were sneakers hanging on the wires even then (in a non-gang, non drug dealer town). I always figured it was dumb thing kids do. Like wrapping trees and mailboxes in toilet tissue. hahaha.

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It's not just drug dealing. They are also a sign to mark gang territory. You can google reputable sights that help citizens and law enforcement fight gang activity and you should find it. It's like tagging in some places. Regardless of whether you believe that it is a sign of criminal activity, it is certainly a sign of neglect in a neighborhood. Just like trash everywhere and houses that are not kept up, it is a sign that it will be easier to get away with committing crime there.

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Since PSE&G was doing work nearby, I actually had them remove the shoes at Colgate & 1st. I called on Monday about the shoes on 1st street in between Monmouth and Newark. As of yesterday, the shoes were still there.

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I always heard that the shoes are a sign of where you find your dealer.

But, I see the shoes everywhere! OH well.


dmashmore, that's what I heard too, hence my concern. I want them gone; I don't want to risk it being true. Maybe I am just being paranoid. I heard that brown shoes meant marijuana; white meant cocaine and other color shoes have other meaning.

Hmmmm....now I need to figure out which type of line it is and call the appropriate service provider.


Dont worry the shoes on the power lines has nothing to do with drug dealing. It is just something kids and teens do for fun with there old pair of sneakers when they get a new pair. The sneakers representing drug spots is more an urban myth then true. There were a couple places at one time that used that for a short time but it was probably less then .001% of the sneakers that represented drug corners even then. Like most urban myths it is based on a small amount of truth that as word spreads people become more worried then they need to be. Think of it more like the spray painted strike boxes the kids put up, it is only a sign there are bored kids in the area.

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OK, in the 80's, shoes meant you were in the vicinity of a drug dealer. Umm, not so much anymore. Remember, drug dealers in 2009 have such neat gadgets as cell phones, blackberrys, and beyond. I think the cops would have caught onto the ol' "shoe on a telephone wire" trick by now.

Nowadays, it's teenager wannabees just doing it because it's cool. I am not a fan of that look in my neighborhood.

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I always heard that the shoes are a sign of where you find your dealer.

But, I see the shoes everywhere! OH well.


dmashmore, that's what I heard too, hence my concern. I want them gone; I don't want to risk it being true. Maybe I am just being paranoid. I heard that brown shoes meant marijuana; white meant cocaine and other color shoes have other meaning.

Hmmmm....now I need to figure out which type of line it is and call the appropriate service provider.

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Is this gonna be part of the Hamilton Park renovations?

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A Wiki about "shoefiti."

(Hmmm, now which JC park would benefit from the shoe tree idea? )

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There some on the lines just last week on Brunswick & 2nd and now just the laces. PS & G is on the block everyday for some strange reason.

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not all the "lines" on the utility pole are "electric". 1st you need to identify what cable are coming off the pole. cause verizon isn't going to take them off comcast who isn't going to take them off pseg's. you call the associated companies customer services and they will take it from their. good luck...

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Well thats because the dealers are EVERYWHERE in JC!

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I always heard that the shoes are a sign of where you find your dealer.

But, I see the shoes everywhere! OH well.

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Does anyone know what Jersey City department I can call to get shoes removed off of the powerlines?

You know when some kid or vandal ties the laces of an old pair of shoes together and throws them onto the power line?


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