Register now !    Login  
Main Menu
Who's Online
90 user(s) are online (62 user(s) are browsing Message Forum)

Members: 0
Guests: 90

more...




Browsing this Thread:   1 Anonymous Users




« 1 2 (3)


Re: 111 First Street - the teardown
#18
Not too shy to talk
Not too shy to talk


Hide User information
Joined:
2006/6/14 16:30
Last Login :
2012/12/24 8:22
From Harsimus Cove
Group:
Registered Users
Posts: 25
Offline
Fang and I went down there last weekend to do the same thing. The black and whites haven't come back from the lab yet, but here's a Polaroid of 111 that I particularly like:

Resized Image

All in all it was a pretty fun day. Cold as nordic hell, but well worth it. Here's the rest of the set if anyone's interested.

Like I said, more will be added when I get the prints back from the lab, and I'm sure Fang will be posting soon enough with her set.

I strongly suggest people go down there at least just to take a look around while they still can. It's a real shame.

Posted on: 2007/2/13 21:06
 Top 


Re: 111 First Street - the teardown
#17
Home away from home
Home away from home


Hide User information
Joined:
2006/4/10 13:29
Last Login :
2022/6/15 16:59
From Mars
Group:
Registered Users
Posts: 2718
Offline
Or the Hearst building in New York.

There are mixed results with these combo projects, but in general I think its better to preserve most of an old building and cap it with an ugly tower than to remove the old building entirely.

Example: Penn Station. If the old penn station had mostly been preserved with an ugly 1960's style tower coming out of the top, I think that would have been better than the existing station / MSG combo, since now there is none of the old penn station left.

Posted on: 2007/2/13 18:03
 Top 


Re: 111 First Street - the teardown
#16
Home away from home
Home away from home


Hide User information
Joined:
2005/7/9 16:38
Last Login :
2012/8/15 13:56
Group:
Banned
Posts: 441
Offline
Quote:

joesas wrote:
preliminary sketches were released a while back. you can check some of them out on jcvibe.com

just mixing the brick base with a tower will be challenging.

the tower itself might be an architectural feat as the base, but together not so cute methinks. hopefully i will be proven wrong.


Like I.M. Pei and the Louvre?

Some like it, some hate it.

Challenging indeed....

Posted on: 2007/2/13 17:56
 Top 


Re: 111 First Street - the teardown
#15
Quite a regular
Quite a regular


Hide User information
Joined:
2007/1/24 15:28
Last Login :
2013/11/15 12:18
Group:
Registered Users
Posts: 63
Offline
preliminary sketches were released a while back. you can check some of them out on jcvibe.com

just mixing the brick base with a tower will be challenging.

the tower itself might be an architectural feat as the base, but together not so cute methinks. hopefully i will be proven wrong.

Posted on: 2007/2/13 17:52
 Top 


Re: 111 First Street - the teardown
#14
Home away from home
Home away from home


Hide User information
Joined:
2006/2/6 15:52
Last Login :
2017/11/19 17:53
Group:
Registered Users
Posts: 342
Offline
If you stop and talk to the workers they are actually recycling the building.Since the plans are no where near finished the demo company is taking its time.The old wood is sold one place and the bricks are worth more than you think.I grabbed a bucket of bricks if anybody wants one.

Posted on: 2007/2/13 17:45
 Top 


Re: 111 First Street - the teardown
#13
Home away from home
Home away from home


Hide User information
Joined:
2005/7/9 16:38
Last Login :
2012/8/15 13:56
Group:
Banned
Posts: 441
Offline
Quote:

joesas wrote:
...hideous glass tower looming over the base.... no plans yet though they should be released soon.


A remarkable post.

How do you know the tower will be hideous if its plans have not been released yet?

Been talking to Koolhaas lately?

Posted on: 2007/2/13 17:41
 Top 


Re: 111 First Street - the teardown
#12
Home away from home
Home away from home


Hide User information
Joined:
2006/2/9 14:13
Last Login :
2009/6/1 2:41
Group:
Banned
Posts: 358
Offline
Thank you for the explanation, I have been trying to figure out what was going on with those.

Posted on: 2007/2/13 16:57
 Top 


Re: 111 First Street - the teardown
#11
Quite a regular
Quite a regular


Hide User information
Joined:
2007/1/24 15:28
Last Login :
2013/11/15 12:18
Group:
Registered Users
Posts: 63
Offline
they are required to save the bricks and use them in construction of the base of the new structure. you can see on site they are wrapping them up in bundles. so i am thinking brick structure on bottom that resembles a semi-historic structure, with hideous glass tower looming over the base. i just hope it has some retail or art space on the bottom. it was supposed to get a performing arts space so we will see. no plans yet though they should be released soon.

Posted on: 2007/2/13 16:53
 Top 


Re: 111 First Street - the teardown
#10
Home away from home
Home away from home


Hide User information
Joined:
2004/11/7 7:24
Last Login :
2016/1/29 4:06
Group:
Banned
Posts: 598
Offline
Quote:

Skadave wrote:
Alb. . . i see your point but I don't think developers think that way....

They see a plot of land and they think that if they put 800 units there they can make X amount of money. They don't care about the community or the future of the area.


But just a little community consciousness ought to help these people make even more money by increasing rental rates and sales prices.

If Paulus Hook had a supermarket and P.S. 37 (Cordero - Newport/Harsimus Cove) were a lot better, I'd think that would really help property values a lot.

Anyhow, the big thing is that Jersey City needs a real chamber of commerce, to help business people here think a little better about how to maximize profits over the next 20 years, as opposed to just making a quick buck today.

Posted on: 2007/2/13 16:05
 Top 


Re: 111 First Street - the teardown
#9
Home away from home
Home away from home


Hide User information
Joined:
2005/5/11 3:17
Last Login :
2018/4/25 16:16
From Hamilton Park
Group:
Registered Users
Posts: 370
Offline
Quote:

crutch93 wrote:
[snip] I thought that building was historic in a sense and could not be bulldozed, guess I was wrong!!


It was designated as historic, but Goldman said that it was too decrepit and could not be preserved. The first plan was to deconstruct it, preserve the outside shell, and build it back around the inner tower(s). But, then they said it would not be preserved. Money talks!

It was a great artists' community. It was a great and stimulating community place. It is a shame.

Posted on: 2007/2/13 15:47
 Top 


Re: 111 First Street - the teardown
#8
Newbie
Newbie


Hide User information
Joined:
2007/2/1 17:59
Last Login :
2007/5/8 15:21
Group:
Registered Users
Posts: 5
Offline
I saw some good shows there and Uncle Joe's it's a shame that there are fewer and fewer places to see live music in JC.
Please correct me if I'm wrong!

Posted on: 2007/2/13 14:58
 Top 


Re: 111 First Street - the teardown
#7
Just can't stay away
Just can't stay away


Hide User information
Joined:
2005/7/29 20:24
Last Login :
2011/9/15 3:01
From Maplewood
Group:
Registered Users
Posts: 137
Offline
Alb. . . i see your point but I don't think developers think that way.

They see a plot of land and they think that if they put 800 units there they can make X amount of money. They don't care about the community or the future of the area. It's a slash and burn mentality where they will make a couple hundred million and bring their money to their mansion in connecticut. Ten years from now they'll be building up some other up and coming neighborhood (newark perhaps).

Posted on: 2007/2/13 14:50
 Top 


Re: 111 First Street - the teardown
#6
Quite a regular
Quite a regular


Hide User information
Joined:
2006/10/27 21:07
Last Login :
2009/12/12 14:22
Group:
Registered Users
Posts: 47
Offline
Quote:

devbeep wrote:
111 is half rubble now.. we took one last look before it turns into another overpriced condo tower.

111 First St.


Were you allowed to go inside or did you just sneak in when the guard was hanging around in the front?

Posted on: 2007/2/13 14:49
 Top 


Re: 111 First Street - the teardown
#5
Home away from home
Home away from home


Hide User information
Joined:
2004/11/7 7:24
Last Login :
2016/1/29 4:06
Group:
Banned
Posts: 598
Offline
Quote:

devbeep wrote:
111 is half rubble now.. we took one last look before it turns into another overpriced condo tower.


Aside from being sad, this is dumb.

If other Jersey City developers and property managers had a clue, they would have gone and bought Goldman out just to keep the Lorillard building standing. The condos and offices at Newport and Harborside would be worth a lot more if there were a bunch of cool shops at restaurants in the old warehouse district.

Anyhow, at this point, is the developer knocking down the outer walls of the building, or just the inner courtyard?

Posted on: 2007/2/13 14:43
 Top 


Re: 111 First Street - the teardown
#4
Home away from home
Home away from home


Hide User information
Joined:
2006/11/10 20:17
Last Login :
2018/5/21 19:38
From Downtown
Group:
Registered Users
Posts: 216
Offline
One of the first times I felt that I really "experienced" Jersey City was during an Artists Studio Tour at 111 First. I believe my first trip to Uncle Joe's followed--just one of many many more that would follow.

I'll raise a glass to another fallen JC soldier!

Posted on: 2007/2/13 14:32
 Top 


Re: 111 First Street - the teardown
#3
Newbie
Newbie


Hide User information
Joined:
2007/1/28 2:05
Last Login :
2007/2/22 21:36
From end of erie
Group:
Registered Users
Posts: 19
Offline
Would have been nice to have a decent night club open in that area. I thought that building was historic in a sense and could not be bulldozed, guess I was wrong!!

Posted on: 2007/2/13 13:24
"If its a lesson in love; watch out. I suffer from a very sexy learning disability."
 Top 


Re: 111 First Street - the teardown
#2
Home away from home
Home away from home


Hide User information
Joined:
2004/9/15 19:03
Last Login :
2023/8/15 18:42
Group:
Registered Users
Posts: 9302
Offline
Having lost several lofts spaces myself over the years it is sad to see these pictures.

Posted on: 2007/2/13 12:21
 Top 


111 First Street - the teardown
#1
Just can't stay away
Just can't stay away


Hide User information
Joined:
2005/11/3 19:44
Last Login :
2009/1/5 17:59
Group:
Registered Users
Posts: 95
Offline
111 is half rubble now.. we took one last look before it turns into another overpriced condo tower.

111 First St.

Posted on: 2007/2/13 10:00
 Top 




« 1 2 (3)




[Advanced Search]





Login
Username:

Password:

Remember me



Lost Password?

Register now!



LicenseInformation | AboutUs | PrivacyPolicy | Faq | Contact


JERSEY CITY LIST - News & Reviews - Jersey City, NJ - Copyright 2004 - 2017