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Regardless of where anyone sits on the political spectrum, the Kushner family has been doing quite well in the real estate business well before our president was elected. His election had nothing to do with their success.

Again, google 666 5th avenue. You're definition of "success" is similar to what other people refer to as "failure".

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Good work Comrades! Deflect! Pivot! Redirect blame where it belongs!

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This make liberal democrat progressive head spin!

And never mention the "R" word (Russia!).


Yeah Trump is Putin's puppet. So much that we may head to war with Russia.

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Good work Comrades! Deflect! Pivot! Redirect blame where it belongs!

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This make liberal democrat progressive head spin!

And never mention the "R" word (Russia!).

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George Obama.
And for the record I am not against most social programs. I am against people who never question how money is spent.

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Tony, tony, please link us to your concerns over the last 8 years over the EB5 abuses. Ya know, when your guy Barack Hussein Obama was in the White House, and his fanboy Chuckie Schumer was the Senate leader. Get back to me when you dig that up, thankee!


Gee can't seem to find anything showing Obama's son in law/top advisor (lol) directly profiting off of this abuse. Let me know when you dig that up big guy!


You are right he doesn't. Instead Obama has a half brother that he allows to live in poverty


LOL Malik Obama?? I am okay with Obama distancing himself from that guy.

Since when do you care about anyone living in poverty? You enthusiastically support someone who wants to make healthcare unaffordable and cut funding for almost all social programs that would actually help poor people. You're going to pretend to care about the underprivileged now with this ass backwards deflection?



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Tony, tony, please link us to your concerns over the last 8 years over the EB5 abuses. Ya know, when your guy Barack Hussein Obama was in the White House, and his fanboy Chuckie Schumer was the Senate leader. Get back to me when you dig that up, thankee!


Gee can't seem to find anything showing Obama's son in law/top advisor (lol) directly profiting off of this abuse. Let me know when you dig that up big guy!


You are right he doesn't. Instead Obama has a half brother that he allows to live in poverty

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Regardless of where anyone sits on the political spectrum, the Kushner family has been doing quite well in the real estate business well before our president was elected. His election had nothing to do with their success.


Charles Kusher served time in prison for illegal campaign contributions, tax evasion and witness tampering. Is being a prison bitch is doing well? This family has a history of not playing by the rules, but now they have all the influence they could ever wish for. Even Jared's sister couldn't resist pushing the family connection to the White House while courting Chinese investors for this exact visa issue. The conflict of interest is staggering. This is why the cash for visa program is more ripe than ever for coverage, as it should be.

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Regardless of where anyone sits on the political spectrum, the Kushner family has been doing quite well in the real estate business well before our president was elected. His election had nothing to do with their success.

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Tony, tony, please link us to your concerns over the last 8 years over the EB5 abuses. Ya know, when your guy Barack Hussein Obama was in the White House, and his fanboy Chuckie Schumer was the Senate leader. Get back to me when you dig that up, thankee!


Gee can't seem to find anything showing Obama's son in law/top advisor (lol) directly profiting off of this abuse. Let me know when you dig that up big guy!


Jared was doing quite well in real estate before his father in law became our President, but nice try. I don't think Trump ran to become our President to help Jared get investment money from the EB5 program, given than so much of the Kushner family real estate portfolio has no EB5 investment connection. But any Trump/anti-Semitic smear is a good one, right?

Personally, I don't care about Kushner abusing the system. I'll point out the hypocrisy of people complaining about "welfare queens" or some other phony bullshit while conveniently ignoring the wealthy abusing and avoiding taxes (aka taking tax dollars away from you) at a far faster and higher clip than those that are poor.

Regardless, I've actually done business with Kushner. I'd like to know your definition of "doing well". The Kushners are a joke, for the most part. They were are garden community real estate developer that built on cheap land for the bridge and tunnel crowd. When he decided to play with the big boys in Manhattan, he was abused like the dopey child he is. If you don't know what I'm talking about do some reasearch on 666 5th Ave.

Contrary to popular belief, wealth does not equal education. Trump has proven this. If you want to argue this, I'll point out his belief of exercise to show just how truly stupid the man is.

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Tony, tony, please link us to your concerns over the last 8 years over the EB5 abuses. Ya know, when your guy Barack Hussein Obama was in the White House, and his fanboy Chuckie Schumer was the Senate leader. Get back to me when you dig that up, thankee!


Gee can't seem to find anything showing Obama's son in law/top advisor (lol) directly profiting off of this abuse. Let me know when you dig that up big guy!


Jared was doing quite well in real estate before his father in law became our President, but nice try. I don't think Trump ran to become our President to help Jared get investment money from the EB5 program, given than so much of the Kushner family real estate portfolio has no EB5 investment connection. But any Trump/anti-Semitic smear is a good one, right?

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Tony, tony, please link us to your concerns over the last 8 years over the EB5 abuses. Ya know, when your guy Barack Hussein Obama was in the White House, and his fanboy Chuckie Schumer was the Senate leader. Get back to me when you dig that up, thankee!


Gee can't seem to find anything showing Obama's son in law/top advisor (lol) directly profiting off of this abuse. Let me know when you dig that up big guy!

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Tony, tony, please link us to your concerns over the last 8 years over the EB5 abuses. Ya know, when your guy Barack Hussein Obama was in the White House, and his fanboy Chuckie Schumer was the Senate leader. Get back to me when you dig that up, thankee!

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A perfect example why PBS should be defunded from Federal funding, as this is overtly political. Where the eff was PBS during the Obama administration on this subject? The program has been in existence for years and supported by many Democrats.


You're OBSESSED with someone who isn't the president anymore. Why do you assume people who don't like Trump would be okay with that same shitty behavior as long as it came from a democrat? Obama wasn't the father in law of the people profiting off these sales. That's the big difference that you willfully ignore.

Any news source that isn't FOX news only appears to have a liberal bias because you've been brainwashed and can no longer think rationally. It's so sad and pathetic.



Silly response. PBS couldn't care less about the people involved in this program unless they were criminally involved, then dogpiles on Kushner. If you don't have a clue, you may rent or buy one to connect the dots. Senator Schumer? LOVED the program in NY, where the gerrymandering was done to include Harlem and Bed Stuy to get stuff built-much, much larger $ than in JC.


No one is disagreeing that it's a messed up and corrupt system. You're just the only buffoon who is hung up on not doing anything about it now. Maybe if your boy Trump didn't screw up everything he touches no one would have even noticed the Kushner's shady business dealings (well except that it's literally run by ex-cons but whatevs!). He only has himself to blame even though he's got chumps like you blaming PBS (...which LOL at that deflection because you sound insane).

How about you focus on what is morally and ethically wrong with your own big boy brain instead of repeating the talking points your orange overlord gave you?

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A perfect example why PBS should be defunded from Federal funding, as this is overtly political. Where the eff was PBS during the Obama administration on this subject? The program has been in existence for years and supported by many Democrats.


You're OBSESSED with someone who isn't the president anymore. Why do you assume people who don't like Trump would be okay with that same shitty behavior as long as it came from a democrat? Obama wasn't the father in law of the people profiting off these sales. That's the big difference that you willfully ignore.

Any news source that isn't FOX news only appears to have a liberal bias because you've been brainwashed and can no longer think rationally. It's so sad and pathetic.



Silly response. PBS couldn't care less about the people involved in this program unless they were criminally involved, then dogpiles on Kushner. If you don't have a clue, you may rent or buy one to connect the dots. Senator Schumer? LOVED the program in NY, where the gerrymandering was done to include Harlem and Bed Stuy to get stuff built-much, much larger $ than in JC.

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A perfect example why PBS should be defunded from Federal funding, as this is overtly political. Where the eff was PBS during the Obama administration on this subject? The program has been in existence for years and supported by many Democrats.


You're OBSESSED with someone who isn't the president anymore. Why do you assume people who don't like Trump would be okay with that same shitty behavior as long as it came from a democrat? Obama wasn't the father in law of the people profiting off these sales. That's the big difference that you willfully ignore.

Any news source that isn't FOX news only appears to have a liberal bias because you've been brainwashed and can no longer think rationally. It's so sad and pathetic.


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A perfect example why PBS should be defunded from Federal funding, as this is overtly political. Where the eff was PBS during the Obama administration on this subject? The program has been in existence for years and supported by many Democrats.


So you are fine with this just because it was reported by PBS?

We should hold all businesses/politicians to a high standard irrespective of ideology.

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Where the eff was PBS during the Obama administration on this subject?


If you Google "EB5 PBS Obama" at least seven Obama-era stories come up.


Yup, PBS covered the EB5 fraud scams (Jay Peak), and other EB5 'investors' who've been screwed-but Kushner hasn't been accused of any of that with the EB5 projects he was involved with. Yes, another PBS political attack job. Kinda like listening to WNYC and Brian Lehrer, none of their 'news' reporting is reporting, it's all left driven opinion.

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Indeed, below is one of them by the same author. I guess the difference is related to what we are learning here about how they do it (gerrymandering, I had no idea about that) and because it was related to a person with a higher position to exert influence. The tactics are the same, the people are distributed across the political spectrum, whatever works within a state/city administration.

Let's use this opportunity to reform the law for EB5 and H1B. One can argue out of factual criteria for both, e.g. having to demonstrate impact on ALL districts for the former if you (are allowed to) apply this methodology, and increasing the annual wage for the latter.

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/making-se ... e-advantage-of-investors/

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If you Google "EB5 PBS Obama" at least seven Obama-era stories come up.

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A perfect example why PBS should be defunded from Federal funding, as this is overtly political. Where the eff was PBS during the Obama administration on this subject? The program has been in existence for years and supported by many Democrats.

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BY PAUL SOLMAN June 15, 2017 at 4:13 PM EDT

“It stands before you like a beacon. This is Jersey City like you’ve never seen it before. This is Trump Bay Street.”

Well, the view from Trump Bay Street (to correct the building’s website slightly), not the building itself. But proximity to Manhattan is the trump card, if you will, for the residential tower: a model of luxury, and also a model of a loophole U.S. developers use in a controversial citizenship-for-cash program. They use the loophole to obtain foreign financing for projects like this one, developed by Donald Trump’s son-in-law, Jared Kushner. Let’s let the website continue:

“The amenity spaces feature furnishings by the luxury brand RH. From the pool to the chef’s table to the observation deck on the 52nd floor, all areas have been curated to elevate the residential experience.”

What the 52-story residential tower also features is the secret of how American real estate developers can (and do) get inexpensive financing for luxury projects in prime locations by selling U.S. visas to foreign investors at half price.

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http://www.pbs.org/newshour/making-se ... oreigners-steep-discount/

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