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The recent news of a Jersey City Councilwoman, who obtained employment from Hudson County government for a $65,000-a-year position that was unadvertised or noticed, is an example of how the political culture in Jersey City and Hudson County remains unchanged and continues to live on.

Public jobs, at the taxpayers' expense, should be noticed and open to the public so that an individual best qualified for the position can fill the role rather than feeding into the system of political patronage.

Conflicts of interest can come into play when holding public office and employment at the same time in two areas of close government. If an elected official is put in the position of voting in the public's best interest by voting against their employer, particularly one that provided him or her with employment in this manner, how can the public be assured that their best interest is held first in the decision making process?

The answer is, the public can't be guaranteed.

Equally as disturbing is the deafening silence of Jersey City's reformers at the helm. The public deserves better and expects continued championing on the issue of double dipping and political patronage jobs as done in the past.

Mayor Fulop and council, we call on you to admonish this act of political patronage and for continued advocacy on the issue of double dipping and multiple public job holders.

We also call on County Executive Tom DeGise to set and adhere to a policy of advertising and noticing available positions to find the most suited individuals to work on behalf of taxpayers and refrain from continuing the practice of the OPA, Old Pals Act.

The public has a right to an explanation of the reasoning and full disclosure of the course of events that led to this hiring decision and awaits a response.

Our elected officials have an obligation to work in a manner of fairness, openness and transparency when spending public tax dollars in every capacity.

ESTHER WINTNER

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http://www.nj.com/opinion/index.ssf/2 ... ows_pol.html#incart_river

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Fulop had to get her a job at the county, she has been gripping to everyone that she was broke and need more income! The fear with the admin that she would get in trouble fund raising, with McKnight advising her and the fact that she sits on the redevelopment agency board. The county didn't just hire her, the Mayor got her the job with the county to try to keep her from doing something stupid! The hypocrisy is stunning!!

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You might find this video interesting, brewster. Here is one of my old videos in which Councilman talking about creating legislation in regards "double dipping." This happens at 1:45.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzv3WB66i0I

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Brewster: I remember when the Fulop supporters put this on jclist now I am waiting for the same Fulop supporters to place similar articles here on the Fulop's council:


Did you hear me defending these patronage jobs? I think its corrupt and creates conflicts of interest. Gaughan disgusted me. I just thought it was hilarious where you "drew the line".

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Brewster: I remember when the Fulop supporters put this on jclist now I am waiting for the same Fulop supporters to place similar articles here on the Fulop's council:

While most Americans are trying to hold on to the one job they have, the current members of MAYOR HEALY’S CITY COUNCIL HOLD MULTIPLE JOBS WHICH ARE FUNDED BY JERSEY CITY TAXPAYERS:

At large Councilman Peter Brennan- City Councilman Salary 40,000. 00
Hudson County Director of Maintenance $70,000.00
Aide to Hudson County Executive Tom Degise $20,000.00
Car, insurance and gas provided by City of Jersey City/ Perk $12,000.00
Owns tavern on Sterling Ave Jersey City INCOME UNKNOWN
&nbs p; TOTAL COMPENSATIOON AT LEAST $142,000.00

Ward D Councilman BILL GAUGHAN- City Council Salary $40,000.00
Chief of Staff to County executive Tom Degise $92,000.00
Car, insurance and gas provided by City of Jersey City/ Perk $12,000.00
Funeral Director Business UNDETERMINED INCOME
State of New Jersey Contract for special Burials $ 5,000.00 per burial
ONE DAUGHTER WORKS ON COUNTY PAYROLL AND
ONE DAUGHTER WORKS ON CITY PAYROLL AT CITY HALL.
TOTAL COMPENSATION AT LEAST 149,000.00

At large Councilman Marianno Vega-City Council Salary $40,000.00
Hudson County Director of Human Services $125,000.00
Car, insurance and gas provided by City of Jersey Cit y/ Perk $12,000.00
TOTAL COMPENSATION AT LEAST $177,000.00

AT LARGE COUNCIL WILLIE FLOOD- Council Salary $40,000.00
Hudson County Register $110,000.00
Pension from the Board of Education compensation undetermined Car, insurance and gas provided by City of Jersey City/ Perk $12,000.00
Her son works in her office/ Husband works for incinerator Authority
TOTAL COMPENSATION AT LEAST $147,000

WARD F COUNCIL VIOLA RICHARDSON/ Council $40,00.00
Employed by County of Hudson $75,000.00
Pension from Police Department $60,00.00
Car, insurance and gas provided by City of Jersey City/ Perk $12,000.00
TOTAL COMPENSATION AT LEAST $187,000.00

WARD C COUNCIL CANDIDATE NIDIA LOPEZ/ Salary
Would be $40,000.00
Hudson County Director of Welfare SALARY $95,000.00
Car, insurance and gas provided by City of Jersey City/ Perk $12,000.00
EXPECTED TOTAL COMPENSATION AT LEAST $147,000.00

PHIL KENNY, GUY CATRILLO AND MIKE SOTTILANNO ALSO DRAW MULTIPLE SALARIES FUNDED THROUGH YOUR TAX DOLLARS!

THIS IS WHY JERSEY CITY DOESN’T WORK. THESE COUNCIL PEOPLE ARE MILKING THE CITY TAXPAYERS AND THE COUNTY TAXPAYERS OUT OF MULTIPLE SALARY’S NOT ONLY FOR THEMSELVES BUT ALSO FOR THEIR RELATIVES. THESE MULTIPLE SALARY’S HAVE A DIRECT IMPACT ON HOW THEY VOTE ON THE CITY COUNCIL AND WHOSE INTERESTS THEY VOTE FOR.


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When I am told something in confidence, I keep my word. I guess keeping your word must be unusual in JC.


Wait, your morals prevent you from completing an unattributed quote! You've already compromised your source if the quote is enough. Yes, much better left to our imaginations. Lets vote: Did they say Obama or Christie?

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When I am told something in confidence, I keep my word. I guess keeping your word must be unusual in JC.

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If the public was told she plans on having a county job too, then the outcome might have been different.


Maybe/maybe not.

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I heard from a reliable source that Fulop called the county for the job. The person said Fulop is a bigger phony than____. Sorry, I cannot mentioned the name.


Why not? It would add validity to your post.

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It may have been advertised but not in the Want Ads. It may be in that section of the paper where bids/foreclosures & that type of thing are.


County told me the position was not advertised.


Thank you for the info. Terrence

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Wasn't a law passed a couple of year ago stopping this "double dipping"?

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I heard from a reliable source that Fulop called the county for the job. The person said Fulop is a bigger phony than____. Sorry, I cannot mentioned the name.

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The story quoted the county spokesman saying the job wasn't advertised . . .

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Isn't the problem that the job wasn't advertised to make sure the best candidate gets the job, rather than someone politically connected?


It may have been advertised but not in the Want Ads. It may be in that section of the paper where bids/foreclosures & that type of thing are.

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It may have been advertised but not in the Want Ads. It may be in that section of the paper where bids/foreclosures & that type of thing are.


County told me the position was not advertised.

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There is a difference Heights Brat, the public was aware they were retired police officer who by the way did pay into their pension system. Coleman background was a non-profit. If the public was told she plans on having a county job too, then the outcome might have been different.

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Double-dipping complaints miss the point. The County appears to have bought itself a seat on the City council. That's the real conflict of interest here.


This is nothing new. There is no conflict of interest unless the county &/or the city have things on their respective agendas that may impact the other. For example: The city is voting to put a hi-rise on a parcel of land & the county is voting to put a park on the same parcel. (This is a very broad generalized example but gives the basic idea)


Total rubbish. The argument between Boggiano and the county over the court redevelopment illustrate that.

City councilors should be paid a full time salary, should represent their constituents and have no potential conflicts of interest.

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That's part of it - but double-dipping was one of the main drums Fulop beat for eight years in mastering his "reformer" pose. How can he possibly justify this without looking like an ass?

Collecting a pension and taking a job are not the same thing.


And once again, you can drum all you like, you can choose people who say they are going to march to that drum but at the end of the day, if there is no law/ordinance prohibiting it then nothing illegal has been done.

Collecting a City pension & taking a City job is not the same thing? Many would beg to differ as the person is drawing 2 checks from the same entity. That's a little different than collecting a City pension & being a stocker at Target.

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Isn't the problem that the job wasn't advertised to make sure the best candidate gets the job, rather than someone politically connected?


It may have been advertised but not in the Want Ads. It may be in that section of the paper where bids/foreclosures & that type of thing are.

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Double-dipping complaints miss the point. The County appears to have bought itself a seat on the City council. That's the real conflict of interest here.


This is nothing new. There is no conflict of interest unless the county &/or the city have things on their respective agendas that may impact the other. For example: The city is voting to put a hi-rise on a parcel of land & the county is voting to put a park on the same parcel. (This is a very broad generalized example but gives the basic idea)

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Double-dipping complaints miss the point. The County appears to have bought itself a seat on the City council. That's the real conflict of interest here.

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That's part of it - but double-dipping was one of the main drums Fulop beat for eight years in mastering his "reformer" pose. How can he possibly justify this without looking like an ass?

Collecting a pension and taking a job are not the same thing.

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Isn't the problem that the job wasn't advertised to make sure the best candidate gets the job, rather than someone politically connected?

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The difference is - Fulop rallied against this, it is the reason many people voted for him.


Rallying against something & then expecting everyone to follow suit, especially when there is no law/ordinance prohibiting it is, well, sorry. You may feel it is unethical or not in keeping a campaign promise but what is the illegality. And that isn't the only reason that many voted for him.

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The difference is - Fulop rallied against this, it is the reason many people voted for him.

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L. Harvey Smith, Vega, Brennan, Lipski & a host of others held duel positions. The champ was Gaughan who in addition to his own business, held a city, county & state job. Where was the outrage?


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Gajewski and Boggiano are retired, so I don't see why they are lumped in the story. That's not fair to them.

Chico pledged that he would step down from his HCIA job if elected. Did he renege? (Though alas, he may have some other problems to deal with).

As for Coleman, I can't see an excuse here. Wait till your term is up if you want a county job.


Gajewski & Boggiano are both retired from the police dept. & collect their penson from the city.

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Gajewski and Boggiano are retired, so I don't see why they are lumped in the story. That's not fair to them.

Chico pledged that he would step down from his HCIA job if elected. Did he renege? (Though alas, he may have some other problems to deal with).

As for Coleman, I can't see an excuse here. Wait till your term is up if you want a county job.


Chico never resigned. Still works for the HCIA.

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It is not the responsibility of taxpayers to support public officials to a standard of living they like.

Really Felicia? A person who is head of the household of a family of four making 35k, the tax payers will pay for it with food stamps and section 8. Girl Bye!

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No one is saying a councilmember can't moonlight. It's considered a part time job. Councilman Yun runs his store. Councilwoman Osborne works at an IT job. There's nothing wrong with that.

The problem is with holding elected office and also holding a city/county job.

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