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so what was the tenure reform? Yelling at teachers is not tenure reform.

Last I checked stock market more than doubled under Obama and unemployement down approx 2.5 %. Uemployement still in mid 9's in Jersey under Christie. He talks of cutting income taxes 10%....who will that benefit ..the wealthy.They will save thousands while the common man will save $100 a year.

Do you really think paying fast food workers and assorted other employees an extra $1 an hour will effect unemployment?

Listen Christie has can be charming, his blunt Jersey guy act resonates with many but I find him to be a self serving windbag. He bought his Attorney General positon and he used his influence to protect friends and family from prosecution. I don't want him to be our president.

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high unemployment, economic downswing, little job creation.
Teachers paying 1.5% towards health care is not tenure reform, awarding no bid ontracts to cronies is not reaching accross the aisle. Wasting 25 million on a special election in October is not sound economic policy.

Garage wrote:
The sad thing is compared to the tea baggers he may be a moderate. Like Reagan, Christie has a way of connecting to people despite his lack of accomplishments.

Garage wrote:
The sad thing is compared to the tea baggers he may be a moderate. Like Reagan, Christie has a way of connecting to people despite his lack of accomplishments.

Rorschach wrote:
Had it not been for Sandy Christie would have had a hard time being reelected. Much like Giuliani and Dubya he got a big bounce from being the visible "strong" man during a crisis.

This idea of Christie as a moderate with bi-partisan support is laughable. He is anti marriage equality, is hostile to a woman's right to choose. opposed an increase to the minimum wage, cut funding for women's health centers and kissed up to the NRA over gun legislation. His claims of "real" reforms is a joke. Property taxes continue to rise across the state. He would prefer to squeeze state and municipal employees rather than increase taxes on the wealthy.

Christie was Karl Rove's choice for US Attorney. That speaks volumes. His "landslide" was a walk-over against a weak candidate while many craven Democrats sat on the sidelines. The man is an arrogant bully who at the end of the day will lay down with the Tea Party.

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Pebble, you're using all the tools from the radical left playbook-lame attempts to humiliate and insult those who threaten your far left views. You can oppose gay marriage and not hate homosexuals-the vast majority of religions on planet Earth do just that.

Which proves what exactly? That "love", or is it "non-hate", can be so parsed and twisted around to include disparaging and marginalizing someone else's most cherished goal? I recall you right-wingers raked (then) President Bill Clinton over the coals for his loose definition of "sex".

There is nothing lame in calling out hypocrisy - if you are not going to treat someone with the respect you yourself insist on, you may not think you hate them, but your actions tell a different story.

Monroe wrote:
Pebble, you're using all the tools from the radical left playbook-lame attempts to humiliate and insult those who threaten your far left views. You can oppose gay marriage and not hate homosexuals-the vast majority of religions on planet Earth do just that.

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And already the decline begins. His own party legislators gives him a bloody nose, re-electing Tom Kean, Jr. as Senate republican leader over his opposition.

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And already the decline begins. His own party legislators gives him a bloody nose, re-electing Tom Kean, Jr. as Senate republican leader over his opposition.

Or perhaps the reverse. Can't think of a better way to prep him for the primaries.

Christie didn't pass the Romney vetting...the tea baggers are going to eat him alive.

Monroe wrote:
Pebble, you're using all the tools from the radical left playbook-lame attempts to humiliate and insult those who threaten your far left views. You can oppose gay marriage and not hate homosexuals-the vast majority of religions on planet Earth do just that.

And nothing proves this more than the way the citizens of NJ joined to re-elect Governor Christie-women, Democrats, African Americans, Latinos-they for sure didn't mind Christie's stance on gay marriage and knew he'd be better for all NJ voters, rich or poor, than the 'same old, same old' Democrat politics which have put us in such a deep hole.

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And already the decline begins. His own party legislators gives him a bloody nose, re-electing Tom Kean, Jr. as Senate republican leader over his opposition.

Or perhaps the reverse. Can't think of a better way to prep him for the primaries.

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And already the decline begins. His own party legislators gives him a bloody nose, re-electing Tom Kean, Jr. as Senate republican leader over his opposition.

Monroe wrote:
Pebble, look at the link (from the NJ State website), you can search by city or township to show per student expenditure, how much is divided between local taxpayers, state taxpayers, and Federal assistance.

Merging education expenditure, while ignoring WHO is providing the $, is at best disingenuous and at worst a lame attempt at disinformation.

And your claim I 'hate' unions is unfounded. I'm not in favor of public sector unions (mostly because they've bought the lawmakers who determine their salaries and benefits), but I've been a member of a private sector union and proud of it.

In any case, we can look forward to another 4 years of progressive reform of the education system by Governor Christie and his team, who received a mandate from NJ voters to do just that. Could there be another reason why only the two most corrupt counties in NJ voted for his opponent except for a desire to keep the status quo?

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He got the 60% to call it a landslide.

Honestly, I think anyone would call it a landslide -- especially at this point in time in America.

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I spend more than 50% of my time in JC, but I'm a legal resident of Essex County, in a city who pays over 85% of the cost of educating our own children and has the highest taxes in NJ because of our tax money being diverted to cities like JC. So I feel helping to pay to educate JC children I'm entitled to post here since it's partly on my dime.

If seeing your taxes going to the education of children is such a burden, you can always move to an over-55 community in South Jersey, or better yet, somewhere out of state.

The bigger issue is that we're failing to educate the kids, irrespective of how education is funded.

Nonsense. Schools such as JC spend considerably more money per student than the highest performing schools (all of which fund their own districts rather than have their hand out to the state). When you have single family parents, absentee parents, parents with substance abuse issues, uninvolved parents, teenaged parents of children, multi-generation welfare parents, no amount of $ can overcome the obstacles that the parents of the students placed in front of their children. More money isn't the answer. Socially responsible parents are the answer. Union City is a great example of how involved parents can produce well educated and socially responsible children.

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I spend more than 50% of my time in JC, but I'm a legal resident of Essex County, in a city who pays over 85% of the cost of educating our own children and has the highest taxes in NJ because of our tax money being diverted to cities like JC. So I feel helping to pay to educate JC children I'm entitled to post here since it's partly on my dime.

If seeing your taxes going to the education of children is such a burden, you can always move to an over-55 community in South Jersey, or better yet, somewhere out of state.

The bigger issue is that we're failing to educate the kids, irrespective of how education is funded.

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I spend more than 50% of my time in JC, but I'm a legal resident of Essex County, in a city who pays over 85% of the cost of educating our own children and has the highest taxes in NJ because of our tax money being diverted to cities like JC. So I feel helping to pay to educate JC children I'm entitled to post here since it's partly on my dime.

If seeing your taxes going to the education of children is such a burden, you can always move to an over-55 community in South Jersey, or better yet, somewhere out of state.

Pebble wrote:
He got the 60% to call it a landslide.

Monroe wrote:

I spend more than 50% of my time in JC, but I'm a legal resident of Essex County, in a city who pays over 85% of the cost of educating our own children and has the highest taxes in NJ because of our tax money being diverted to cities like JC. So I feel helping to pay to educate JC children I'm entitled to post here since it's partly on my dime.