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Why don't you go to the city clerk and get a copy of the letter yourself? Who cares if he said he would post it here, you know where it is, go get it if it is that important to you.
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Dan, most of us don't care about seeing the letter. There was an article written in the Jersey Journal, and Fulop posted on JCLIST.
You can believe that this is a publicity stunt, but others believe that the Healy administration is the problem, and Chief Troy is not doing the job so should be replaced, or at least reprimanded. Troy is very popular with the police, and is considered a cop's cop. These characteristics may make him popular, but not necessarily effective. Throwing more police at crime and doing little else of substance may not be the best solution. Fulop may be right on this one. It took courage to ask the mayor for the chief's resignation. Dan, do you have the courage to admit you may be wrong? Quote:
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How about seeking the resignation of the mayor! I voted for this guy and he is one big joke. Since moving from New York City in 2003 I have seen crime on the rise, a seemingly halt to any kind of warmth extended to make people move here from outside the area, weird 'special interest group things' happening like: a ridiculous call to hava a super food store built in my neighborhood when the company that runs it currently cannot keep hoods from stealing the shopping carts that they are supposed to be supplying shoppers with [good luck going to Stop n' Squeal on Central midday, they'll tell you all their carts are in use, even when there's only 10 people in the store. Several times a year, gangs have been stealing their carts and they don't replace them--for months how are they going keep people supplied adequately with carts to hold their suppies with a larger store that is so far away from the center of town in bad weather, the elderley will never make it there (especially with the new NON-bus service)?], what else? How about the seemingly endless school construction projects, one after the other, that go on for years...[they tore down a landmark bldg on Kennedy a year or so for yet another school...duh? look around, there ain't too many school-aged children on the streets, what we need are jobs for the teenagers], and man, it gets better...it used to be that a yellow taxi cab ride from Journal Sq to my house cost $3, now they jam as many people in a cab as possible, and some of these people you NOT want to even sit near in the same subway car with, and the drivers charge everybody $7-$8 and it HAS happened over and over and over...Why ? Because nobody cares a damn to do anything about it. Worse insult of all...suddenly there is NO TRANSPORTATION for ANYONE on Central Ave. the Bus line cancels the service and all there are in response are PITHY signs that claim a congressman NO ONE HAS HEARD OF will address the situation. Address this GET THE BUSES BACK. AND, we are worried about the police? Please, who runs this place, get the mayor to do something...OR, let's do something about it. Surely we voted him, maybe he can earn his votes...And, please the people who busted their butts on the Loew's Movie theater, after years making it nice, the mayor wants to stall them from having a rightful claim, PLEASE!
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Bottom line - no copy of the letter addressed to Mayor Healy outlining Fulop's call for the resignation of Police Chief Troy. He got his publicity, now time to move on.
"In the private sector, where I come from, mediocre performance is met with a change of management, it's as simple as that," Fulop said in the press release. No, this is not the way it is done in the private sector either. In the private sector you are accountable and must back up your claims. Where is his back up? Is Fulop advocating on behalf of his constituents or is he grandstanding at our expense. He needs to start doing his job. We will see where this all goes..... Quote:
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I'll tell you what JC needs, a police chief who is not broken down. As far as I am concerned the 2 robberies and 3 vehicle break-ins in one year, for me is the breaking point. This is BS the city needs to do something ASAP or normal people like me will be forced to use lethal force against criminals who threaten livelihoods!
For those who criticize the only city rep (fulop) who has the balls to stand up against that loser of a mayor and police chief, perhaps some crime brought to your door step will change your mind! Here is some suggestions for those who get paid to think of them: Street Cameras Anit-Gang Squad More Police Undercover drug agents Better School programs for kids improved homeless shelters better lighting encourage more jobs in JC better response to crime Fire the weak police chief and hire a real one Utilize resources in crime stricken areas More consistent walking/bike/horse police routes I don't care if the chief has 20 yrs of experience, the percent increase in crime, my personal experience and the fact I see drug dealing and public urination daily is reason to fire the mayors buddy from the position. Even the corrupt councilmen who stand with the mayor should be rooted out of this city. In 10yrs I have been here, this is the worst I have seen it!
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a) I know my ideas are nothing new. But I don't think Jersey City needs new ideas. It needs more of what used to work a few years ago. Some of the problem may, for example, be due to diversion of resources to antiterrorism work. But the JCPD have to really explain what's going on with that. b) I think that it's really, really important that police patrol by themselves and serve guard duty by themselves. People who are walking by themselves are just a lot more aware of problems than people who are with other people. I know that if I were a police officer I'd probably get burned out and talk to other police officers, but, as much as possible, that needs to be prevented. c) Where's the broken streetlight Web site, and does it actually work? It seems as if maybe it would be good to maybe even feature that on the home page here at some point.
Posted on: 2006/1/30 22:38
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- I was just throwing out suggestions to get the ball rolling, so that the guy bashing Fulop couldn't accuse us of not having any ideas. I don't know anything about the JCPD and don't know if Fulop is really right, but I think at least the JCPD folks should come up with ideas, not just blame the universe. - I think people here complained a lot about the Nicco (??) restaurant in Paulus Hook and Cafe Brand in Harsimus Cove, which drew yuppie crowds. I understand, for example, that a bunch of people freak out about perfectly nice, law-abiding, non-wealthy people who hang out on the stoops by C-Town. In my opinion, that's not a problem. The problem is the people who steal the cars and physically attack people, or shoot at random into Pershing Field. Quote: I do see the police walking around from time to time, but doing "a sweep" of a block is going to just cause resentment and retalition in the short term, Well, how did Bratton do it in New York? (And, note: I have nothing against strip clubs or porno shops. I mean how Bratton did community policing, not how Giuliani chased out the porn places.) Quote: there is a nationwide shortage of police officers, so it would be much better to start a "police explorer" program so that the gangsta kids willl have something better to do with there time. I think that's the best idea. I left out most of the "give kids something to do" suggestions because people seemed to flame those ideas when I included them in earlier posts. But, obviously, give kids things to do. Also: why not create an early evening, adult supervised playground rehabilitation? Limit the jobs to jobs that kids can legally do. Quote: Why should the police be told to go harass and arrest kids drinking beer on the front steps of there building, when those kids are over 18, and everywhere else in the world they can go out down to the pub and hang out with there friends? You're right, no question. Quote: If anything the police need to focus on Drunk and reckless Driving.. Agreed, but keep in mind that most of the people killed in Jersey City have been low-income or moderate-income. So, preventing violent crime (and gang formation that might lead to more crime) is much more important for those kids and their families than it is for yuppies (even yuppies who feel poor) deciding between Paulus Hook and the Heights.
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This is exactly why I voted for Steve. I didn't want a group of good 'ol boy do nothings. I wanted someone to stir things up and keep everyone on their toes. Keep up the good work Steve.
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I am appreciative of all the feedback on this issue on both sides of the conversation.
Three important notes I wanted to point out: 1) I filed the letter I sent to Mayor Healy with the City Clerk so anyone in the city can retrieve it. Anyone who is interested can file an Open Records Request and obtain it. 2) I have been told by many officers that Chief Troy had a meeting with his commanders on Thursday after my request for his resignation and of course was visibly angry. Nevertheless, for the first time he re-established several walking posts on MLK and put some special units out for over night shifts citywide that previously were not. 3) Finally I have included below an editorial in today?s Jersey Journal. I think it does a great job of outlying from the newspaper?s perspective what has transpired in the last week and since the beginning of the current administration. I am including it only because it is not some political letter to the editor, but rather the paper's assessment of happenings on this issue. Best Regards Steven M. Fulop Frank talk about crime is overdue Monday, January 30, 2006 Jersey City Councilman Steve Fulop's call for the head of Police Chief Robert Troy has certainly set off an emotional firestorm in the city. Residents say they have had enough of the rapes, shooting and murders in the city. They say they live in fear in some neighborhoods and blame drug dealers and youth gangs. These people support Fulop's effort to center on crime as one of the top issues in the city. Backers of Troy, including many of the politicians who put him in office and officers in the city, call him a professional lawman and say he is doing the best he can. They charge Fulop with grandstanding. Whatever the motivations, Fulop has created a citywide debate that is long overdue. The administration of Jerramiah Healy came to power with a "get tough on crime" platform. Healy touts his many police hirings while explaining that the Police Department is still very undermanned. What many residents want to know is where are these police officers. It is obvious that the days of the nightstick-swinging officer "walking" the beat in neighborhoods and knowing everyone by their first names are long gone. Yet, residents still long for a return to the "visible" officer. Today, police travel in two-man patrol cars. The frustration comes from the belief that the police are a reaction rather than a prevention force. Residents also are wary of an administration that has promoted a great number of officers. It leads to the question of how many supervisors there are for an "X" number of police officers. Each administration seems to give a variety of answers to that question. No one ever questions the bravery and dedication of police. Most only want police superiors to make the best use of the manpower available. There is crime in the streets. This city had 39 murders last year - 21 by gunfire. Remember, every shot fired is a potential fatality. Even the lesser quality-of-life crimes seem to be getting out of hand. We look to our elected leaders and police as the last line of defense against chaos, perceived or not. Now is not the time for officials to circle the wagons. It is time for them to show us that law enforcement is working. It is a time to listen to concerns of residents. Attending evening sessions with neighborhood groups for question and answer sessions is an ongoing effort, but there has to be a way to reach more residents with information about how they can protect themselves. If need be, it is time to hold people accountable. Police and residents should not be adversaries. They should be partners in trying to make the city a safer place to live.
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The Journal Square Asian Merchant's Association hires private security to deal with issues on India row. Why can't you have the city council pass an ordinance forcing the landlords to be pro-active, by giving tax hike freezes to landlords who hire private security? That way the cops can deal with all the people shooting each other instead of moon lighting as social workers
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Nope, you miss the point. It's more than jaywalking, but that's not the point either. All I'm saying is the police should either direct traffic or direct the kids so there are no accidents. The kids really need supervision. Neighbors have complained of them urinating on their property, sitting on their stoops and smoking, etc. This is a large problem that is certainly not the fault of the police, but something they can be a little more proactive in controlling and protecting not only the community but the kids. They can at least do something, anything, instead of standing there like spectators. Otherwise, put them in other crime-ridden neighborhoods where their presence might deter crimes.
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I agree with you on some points, and disagree with you others. Dude, you are asking the police to harass and arrest the high school kids. That is the facist B.S. my family came to this country to get away from.... The worst "crime" you have described is jay walking, which everyone in New Jersey does. If you want to stop jaywalking then put the high metal fences along the median in the road. I will tell you that alot police officers work undercover to protect there families and get a more honest scoop of what is really happening on the streets, so there are alot more police on the streets than you think. What I do agree with you is that it would be re-assuring to people to have police walk a beat in uniform.
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I don't know if I missed anything but is jc344 simply a concerned citizen or a member of the government?
My 2 cents. My observations about the police are confined to Harsimus Cove/Hamilton Park, the waterfront and the Dickinson HS area, areas I've lived or worked in. There are police patrolling the waterfront and Dickinson. But I honest to god have never seen them do anything except on occasion direct traffic. What goes on around Dickinson is unbelievable. The HS kids run rampant during before and after school and during lunch. I've never figured out why the police are there because they do absolutely nothing. The kids cross Palisade & Newark Avenues recklessly coming close to causing injury to themselves or causing accidents. Right in front of the cops. And this has been going on for years. I can't tell you how many times I've seen 2 cops at the intersection of Warren & Columbus gabbing away and paying no attention to the outside world - apparently they're there to direct traffic in this area full of heavy construction. One cop doing nothing would seem to be sufficient. I see them walking around the waterfront. I suppose they're there to deter terrorism. Maybe I'm missing something, but strolling around and socializing doesn't seem to be the greatest deterrent. I have never seen a cop on the beat in Harsimus Cove/Hamilton park. What I have seen though is a parade of police cars and firetrucks double park in front of a deli during lunch. Yes, firetrucks. I never figured out why several firetrucks need to go to the deli - why can't they get their meatball hero delivered instead of coming awfully close to causing accidents by blocking 1 lane of Jersey Ave? I've bit my tongue for a long time because, regardless of these inappropriate activities, I know these guys put their lives on the line every day. I don't blame the individual cops or firemen... it is a government out of control.
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First of all I am not on the Troy/Healy team, secondly all the suggestions you put forth are already in existence( nothing new there) for example there is a web page to report broken street lights pse&g already has a web site for that purpose, jcpd has officer's on foot and in scooters ,you already have plain clothesed officer's in every district as well as narcotics officer's and a gang unit, as for the abatement issues that is a subject that would be better suited for Mr. Fulop to answer, not the Chief of Police.
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...I think there is an inherant double standard...when poor kids drink and do drugs it's considered a crime...but when middle class kids do it's called nightlife? ... I do see the police walking around from time to time, but doing "a sweep" of a block is going to just cause resentment and retalition in the short term, and is going to make it impossible in the long term to get people to talk to the police. I see people with stop snitching t-shirts all the time...The real horror of the ghetto is someone who will shoot you and then tell on you, forget that, that is why my family left russia to get away from police state bullsh---t like that. .... there is a nationwide shortage of police officers, so it would be much better to start a "police explorer" program so that the gangsta kids willl have something better to do with there time. Who knows, they might actucually like become police officers themselves, after interning with the police. I think it is much better in the long term to have police officers who come from the community, versuses some recruit from morris county who is going to stay on the force only 1 - 3 years until he is recruited back again in some 100K per year police officer job in morris county somwhere. ...Honestly there is very little to do in Jersey City if you are under 21. ...Why should the police be told to go harass and arrest kids drinking beer on the front steps of there building, when those kids are over 18, and everywhere else in the world they can go out down to the pub and hang out with there friends? While it is perfectly acceptable for some trader from goldman sachs who has just spent the day trading stocks based upon the raping of the resources of the third world to go and get blind drunk? Why is a drunk suit winked at, while a black 20 year old drinking a beer considered a menace? Especially for these muslim kids in the neighborhood are caught between fundamentalist Islamic parents, racist society, lack of decent jobs (I.E. Factory UNION jobs, not fast food). ...Also, it is not fair for people under 21 to have no safe venue to play music indoors and dance...and the only place to go is outside, which has banned boomboxes. ... If anything the police should be focusing on anti-social behavior rather than breaking silly rules, like no boomboxes or drinking public. I mean where are alot of these kids going to go? They are stuck between overcrowded apartments, and the streets. If anything the police need to focus on Drunk and reckless Driving.... I think this is the biggest problem in New Jersey right now. Drunk Driving is still winked at all levels of society, and there definatly needs to be a year round crackdown on reckless and drunk drivers, not just on the holidays.
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) I always get flamed by Bouncing Soul or Alan Sommerman for daring to post a message that's more than 3 lines long, but, anyhow
Alb - I am sorry if it seems like I have singled you out for any "flaming" - I hope that I am responding to content not poster. I hope this board can continue to be a forum for diverse ideas and opinions.
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a) It looks as if you're on the Troy/Healy team. Maybe you should try coming up with some proposals. b) I always get flamed by Bouncing Soul or Alan Sommerman for daring to post a message that's more than 3 lines long, but, anyhow: - Set up a Web site that residents can use to report broken streetlamps and do a better job of getting the streetlamps fixed. Having broken or burned out streetlamps sends a message that a block belongs to the crooks. - Whenever possible, have police officers patrolling on foot or on scooters rather than in cars. - Get serious about the drug supermarket on Wayne Street. How can such a thing exist a couple of blocks from city hall on a street with million-dollar homes? - We all see the young gangstas riding around on their bikes. Why not ask NJT bus drivers to report in to a kiddie gangsta hotline whenever they see the kiddie gangstas. Send the police to have nice friendly chats with these youngsters. - Make sure that any developers who get new tax abatements end up with a responsibility to hire at least one evening security guard (or, even better, to fund the hiring of one dedicated uniformed police officer) for the area around the development and one for some other area of town that really needs some attention. - Do a Bratton and have squads of the new police officers pick a few troubled blocks per night and walk down those troubled blocks talking to people, issuing warnings, giving tickets and scaring bad guys away. Have plain clothes cops waiting on nearby blocks to can arrest bad guys who start selling drugs, mugging people, etc. 1 or 2 blocks over. - Have Bratton recommend a consultant who can come in and evaluating what's going right and what's going wrong with the police force.
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When the Parking authority, with practically a licence to print money if it actually does it's job, loses it instead, you can assume the rest are deeply f***ed up.>> Touche! Good point. Scary this government of ours -- but as the town changes, as the demographics change, a genuine revolution gets closer. I am sap enough to hope to see a day when those in govt in JC ask not what the citizenry can do for them but what they can do for the citizenry!
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Ah, but we actually have an even more concrete measure of failure for those "Authorities", they're all losing money! At least the JCPD isn't expected to make money or at least break even, but they are. When the Parking authority, with practically a licence to print money if it actually does it's job, loses it instead, you can assume the rest are deeply f***ed up.
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no, dan, you're the only one who cares.  we all know what your "opinion" is going to be; i'm not waiting with bated breath for THAT post. with your impatient foot-tapping, i can't help but think of you like a teacher who takes points off an assignment for being "late". the whole full-time-job/public-service thing just MAY cut into his online time, but i'm sure you'll give that no consideration when you rip him a new one for not posting in what you consider a timely manner, no matter what the content of the letter. but you keep telling us how objective you are...
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Ummm...this week Corzine fired Petillo as head of UMDNJ without simultaneously naming a replacement. That won't happen for several months.
But by all means, email Corzine with your suggestion that it is better to keep an incompetent bungler in a $600k/year job than it is to allow the post to be empty as the state embarks on a (we hope) exhaustive search for a qualified administrator. As I've said before, I don't give a hoot about Troy's coming or going, but I am firm in saying that Fulop is doing good by highlighting the fact that JCPD is failing us and it is failing us not because of the men and women in blue on the streets (mainly decent, hard working folks) but because of endemic incompetence, cronyism, and a culture of piggery at the top. Personally I suspect the problem goes way beyond Troy. I would expect at least a dozen high-ranking officers should be encouraged to turn in their badges, their city cars, and their city gasoline cards. That said, JCPD is a microcosm that illustrates the state of affairs in other city departments and autonomous agencies. JCPD happens to have concrete statistics that measure its performance. Imagine if we could measure JCPA, JCMUA, or JCIA? In some respects JCPD may be better run than many other city departments and that is a frightening thought.
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True, it is not his area of expertise, but if you are going to criticize someone who is in that area of expertise wouldn't you expect Mr. Fulop to possibly gather possible solutions to the very problems he sites ,rather then simply issuing a press release stating that the chief should resign.How do you tell someone their not doing a good job if you don't have an answer as to how to change things? It seems logical to me that if you are going to call for someone to be removed from a particular job you should be able to state not only the problems ,but possible solutions or name someone in your press release who you feel can do a better job and why that person can do a better job then the chief who is currently there.It's time to admit Mr. Fulop is simply a politician who is trying to advance his career at the expense of others take the rose colored glasses off for just a second a maybe you'd see the release for what it truly is, and no I am not being sarcastic.
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Back to the subject at hand.
Our Councilman called for the resignation of the Police Chief in a letter to Mayor Healy, that the councilman announced in a press release. He agreed to post the letter here. We are waiting to see the letter which will either illustrate a bonafide case to get rid of our current Police Chief who has served a year or it will not. If you care.
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The intern idea is not bad at all. The other night I had a trespassing incident, didn't get a good look at the guy(girl?). I called the cops to report it, not really expecting much since the person was gone and I didn't get a good look a them, I got a call back about 2 minutes later and 10 minutes later the cops were at my door. They did a lot more than I expected, checked the yard, asked a lot of questions.
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Maybe Jersey City could make the position of police chief an electable office. We could do it in a very simular way to how county sheriffs and magistrates are elected in other parts of the country?>>
Heavens no. Taking politics out of policing is a necessary first step in healing JCPD. As for NYC PD fudging stats...maybe, maybe not...but the glaring fact remains that Jersey City ranks as one of the nation's most dangerous cities and crime rates are rising when they should be falling. Look at the Morgan Quitno ratings -- http://www.morganquitno.com/safecity.htm These numbers alone indict the performance of JCPD brass.
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In the end this is not about yuppies or non-yuppies it is about accountablility, and since he has been in office Mr. Fulop has tried to make a difference, you may not agree with what he is doing but at least he stands up for his opinions and does not hide behind the doors of City Hall. Did you ever try to get anything done before Fulop was in, nothing but the runaround.
Pure Baloney!
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I think the JCPD are doing a great job in the neighborhood, but it would better if they expanded community policing.
...But there is only so much you can do if any joe-shmoe can drive down to a southern state like north carolina and buy a trunkload of automatic weapons with no ID or permit and drive it up here. I would not compare Jersey City to NYC in terms of crime and saftey because the numbers are being fudged by the NYPD in the compstat computer system so that Bloomberg can call NYC the "safest city" in north america. Check out this village voice article http://www.villagevoice.com/news/0552,moses,71322,5.html It shows how in New York, the police make it very hard to file a criminal complaint, and how violent felonies are routinaly under- reported as misdemenors by police officers when filling out the compstat forms. Maybe Jersey City could make the position of police chief an electable office. We could do it in a very simular way to how county sheriffs and magistrates are elected in other parts of the country? OR, how about having an intern program where you place criminal justice majors from Jersey City university at a police station to handle the paperwork and free up police officers from desk duty?
Posted on: 2006/1/27 15:44
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jc344 wrote: He does not have the best intrests of his constituents at heart that is crystal clear by his press release. Unfortunately, he chose not to which simply put indicates were his priorities lie.He is grandstanding inorder to advance his political career and those of his friends rather then having the best intrests of those who supported him, how very sad. 
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Sometimes the process of healing starts by recognizing that there is a problem.
That is what Fulop did. I don't call that "grandstanding." I call it clear thinking. As for blaming him because he doesn't have a solution in hand -- give me a break. He's a part-time city councilman! (Last I heard he actually had a real fulltime job, not a County no-show.) Solving what ails JCPD and, more broadly, JC government will take clear thinking on the part of many (Fulop included). In point of fact it would have been the height of hubris for Fulop to present a "quick cure" for JCPD. It doesn't exist. All of Jersey City government needs a thorough makeover and this won't be quick, it won't be easy, and, truthfully, it may never happen. But count me in as one who wants to go there and I certainly welcome Steven Fulop to join this party.
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Steve Fulop calls for Chief Troy to resign, yet he offers no solution to the problem of crime. It kind of makes you wonder what Mr. Fulop is really looking for? If Mr. Fulop had offered any kind of solution or idea of how to go about curbing crime and violence I might have found some creditability to his statement,unfortunately it is abundantly clear the only true motive behind Mr.Fulops press release was his own personal aspirations for higher office, He does not have the best intrests of his constituents at heart that is crystal clear by his press release. By issuing his statement without solutions only demoralizes the whole police department and calls into question his motives behind the statement. If he had the best interests of his constituency at heart he would have researched possible solutions or ideas and put those ideas forward in his press release.Unfortunately, he chose not to which simply put indicates were his priorities lie.He is grandstanding inorder to advance his political career and those of his friends rather then having the best intrests of those who supported him, how very sad.
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