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Re: Our Lady of Czestochowa Downtown Sex Abuse...
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What the actual fuck did you just say?

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I don't buy the concept of pedophilia

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While people here talk about pedophilia priests, McCarrick known victims were 11, 16 and many were in their 20s, men in the seminary. I don't buy the concept of pedophilia but access to males in general. My contributions to the church probably helped pay for the $180,000 payout by the Archdiocese of Newark to one of McCarrick's victims. The Catholic Church is an institution but the nonsense has been going on in Hollywood according to former child actor Corey Feldman for a long time.

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This Pope seems more concerned with our President than the horrible pedophile priests that have been a problem for a long time. Time to step up, Papa.

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Actually, the allegations are really bad. Here's is the statement of the victim. https://reverbpress.news/features/brea ... ce-catholic-priest-abuse/

I did not finish the thought in my last post which was merely to invoke our Lord's statment that harming a child is an evil greater than any other. ("...better that a millstone be cast around the neck" of such a sinner.


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The man, now grown alleges hugs and kisses) and settled for an action in the high five figures accoring to articles online. Sometimes one just sees the tip of the ice berg and maybe there is even more. But, as things go, these allegations are not horrific (no gential involvement, no sodomy, no fellatio), though certainly inappropriate and the man should have been defrocked.

But Yvonne is absolutely correct that the overwhelming majority of the sexual abuse has been the homosexual predation of young men, from puperty into their early 20s. There is ample literature on this, both poplular and scholarly.

Paedephilia hysteria is a means to deflect from the predatory homosexuals represented by McCarrick and his allies. Read the recent letter by the former papal nuncio Vigano who is now in hiding. Pope Francis is a creature of McCarrick, elected through a sort of putsch by the homosexuals- some who pretend to be Catholic most who don't and ally themselves with the cultural elite and so don't talk about Christian dogma and morals but about the environment, refugees, LGBT issues, etc.

OLC, btw, has long been a center of non Catholic practice which tolerated if not celebrated homosexuality and Tom Iwanowski was associated closely with McCarrick and his allies and ilk.

Recently, Fr. Bryan Page was appointed. He had been chaplain at Princeton and seems to be a good man and good priest.


The Catholic Church and Catholics have more or less adopted the sexual mores of the culture. "Catholics" now divorce, contracept, fornicate, sodomize at rates not distingushable from their neighors. The remnant in the church still holding fast to Christianity is now in a out and out war against Pope Francis, and his allies (Cardinal Tobin, Wuerl, Chupic McElroy, Mariaga, Kasper, Tagle etc) to see who wins.

These misdeeds are terrible- and it is no real consolation that this abuse occurs at even higher levels in secular settings, e.g., public schools, teams, etc. As the very idea of a sexual ethic becomes merely a quaint concept (most people today subscribe to the belief of do whatever you want so long as no one is hurt), I think that there will unfortuantely be only more abuse. The me-too movement is really where the sexual revolution takes us to.

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Here is a letter from Holy Apostles Seminary concerning homosexual seminarians. In a nut shell, gay men in Columbia were kicked out of seminary in Columbia and came to the US where they were told the culture is gay friendly. Some went to Holy Apostles Seminary in the US. They took swift action.
https://www.holyapostles.edu/swift-dis ... -taken-on-campus-in-2012/

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Pedophilia is sex abuse on children 10 years old or younger, this is not the problem according to the John Jay sex report done by former FBI in 2004. 5% would be pedophilia, this is sex with teens. The term is pederasty or an adolescent male.


The victim in the article was ten years old when the abuse began, because math.

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Good to know Yvonne is on the case, trying to muddy the waters on talking about pedophile priests. Blaming the Catholic church's rampant pedophilia, sex abuse, and coverups on gay people? Excusing it as "not really pedophilia anyway?"

What would we do without our resident persecuted Catholic?

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How about just plain old sexual assault of a minor, since you feel like being technical. And the Church covered it up. I would fine them into poverty.

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Pedophilia is sex abuse on children 10 years old or younger, this is not the problem according to the John Jay sex report done by former FBI in 2004. 5% would be pedophilia, this is sex with teens. The term is pederasty or an adolescent male.

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Why is the church so happy to fall on it's sword about this pedophilia problem rather than just let priests marry and have families like most other religion's clergy? Then you would get NORMAL people into the clergy, as celibacy IS a sexual deviance to begin with! As I understand it, it originated to keep medieval clergy from creating their own priestly dynasties, though it didn't stop the Borgias. Pre 1139 ce celibacy was not required of clergy.

I can't think of a better thing to bring that church into the 21st century than ending celibacy, except allowing women to be priests.

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According to Bella Dodd who worked for the Communist party in the 1920s and 1930s, she was told by Stalin to recruit men with no faith including homosexual men to enter the church and destroy it. She told this to Archbishop Fulton Sheen and he told her to give talks on this. She did. Stalin hated the church. Dodd recruited 1,100 men. Alice Von Hildebrand is in her 90s and gives talks on this subject. She knew Bella Dodd.

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You couldn't make these names up.

The message has been clear for sometime now, regardless of all the coverups that go as high up the to current Pope.

Parents keep your kids the hell away from Catholic Priests.


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By Adrienne Romero
The Jersey Journal

A priest has stepped away from his Jersey City parish while the Newark archdiocese investigates a new allegation of decades-old abuse, a spokesman for the archdiocese said.

The Rev. Gerard Sudol, who faced similar accusations 15 years ago that were a part of a million-dollar settlement -- was a priest "in residence" at Our Lady of Czestochowa Downtown. He had been at the church since July 2015.

https://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/20 ... n.html#incart_river_index


Allowing a predator priest to reside at a school with a reputation like OLC - wow. Just wow. They have a lot of explaining to do.

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By Adrienne Romero
The Jersey Journal

A priest has stepped away from his Jersey City parish while the Newark archdiocese investigates a new allegation of decades-old abuse, a spokesman for the archdiocese said.

The Rev. Gerard Sudol, who faced similar accusations 15 years ago that were a part of a million-dollar settlement -- was a priest "in residence" at Our Lady of Czestochowa Downtown. He had been at the church since July 2015.

https://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/20 ... n.html#incart_river_index

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