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Only on JCList would someone say it is racist that American jobs should go to American citizens. That is the focus of my letter, I have seen many citizens, some personal friends get downsize and later their former companies hire H1B people. I have seen immigrants line up in Union City waiting to be hired by construction crews while Africian Americans asked to be hire by the same company. JC gives generous tax abatements with the idea local people are hired. The American citizen is being screwed. Yet they are the one who make sacrifices to this country especially during war times. I don't apologize for my statement.

If your American friends were better at their jobs, they wouldn't have lost them.

You're a bigot that's made anti-homosexual comments. Now, you're targeting immigrants. It sounds to me like whatever friends you have that lost jobs deservedly lost them. Tell your friends to improve their knowledge and then re-apply. Maybe they'll have a shot.

As someone that hires people (and am presently interviewing daily), if someone comes in and complains that they lost their job because the other person was an immigrant, they damn sure won't be paid by me.

You are putting Americans last, which makes you anti-America. Referring to my comments on gays, let me repeat, bakers, florists, etc. should not be forced to do something against their beliefs. Actually, I have rented to gays, but I will not call Jesus a liar when he said a man leaves his father and mother and clings to his wife and the two will be one flesh. The definition of marriage. I will not call Jesus a liar on the definition of marriage. But you have the free will to do that. You are a liberal who hate people who do not follow what you believe. You are not tolerate of other people's faith. Here is a woman who is following her faith, she will serve gays but will not violate her religion. You have no idea how strong faith is probably because you lack it yourself. http://www.adfmedia.org/News/PRDetail/8608

My last two hires were a male of Cuban descent and a Muslim woman.

I'm sorry you're such a bigot. I'm also sorry that you're so racist as to think that "American" just means white.

I'd say that you'll grow out of it but you've been spouting the same pathetic nonsense for far too long and you're too old to learn how wrong you are.

I'm happy with my new employees. Then again, I'm not a racist like you...

RichMauro wrote:
I can still recall the chaos that ensued when the first large scale immigration from Puerto Rico took place back in the early sixties.

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Gay activists live in denial, here is a small sample of activists going after Christians. It is not about tolerance, it is about destroying someone who does not share your views.
https://carm.org/homosexual-persecution-of-christians
http://www.cnsnews.com/commentary/bil ... ir-issue-sex-not-violence
http://www.catholic.org/news/national/story.php?id=64813
http://www.massresistance.org/docs/gen2/12b/acushnet_church/
http://chalcedon.edu/research/article ... ivists-threaten-violence/
http://boston.cbslocal.com/2012/05/16 ... ign-against-gay-marriage/

If Jesus was anti-gay, how come he couldn't help himself from hanging out with so many dudes?

One of the things Jesus told the people is to do what the pharisees say not what they do. Matthew 23:2 Jesus considered the pharisees hyprocrites. So what was the pharisees saying? They were mentioning the Mosaic laws. What is in the Mosaic laws? Just rules and regulations on living your life, including rules and regulations on sodomy.

Besides these dudes started his Church.

I'm just quoted to keep it recorded that you're a pathetic excuse for a human due to your repeated bigotry.

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Yvonne wrote:
Gay activists live in denial, here is a small sample of activists going after Christians. It is not about tolerance, it is about destroying someone who does not share your views.
https://carm.org/homosexual-persecution-of-christians
http://www.cnsnews.com/commentary/bil ... ir-issue-sex-not-violence
http://www.catholic.org/news/national/story.php?id=64813
http://www.massresistance.org/docs/gen2/12b/acushnet_church/
http://chalcedon.edu/research/article ... ivists-threaten-violence/
http://boston.cbslocal.com/2012/05/16 ... ign-against-gay-marriage/

If Jesus was anti-gay, how come he couldn't help himself from hanging out with so many dudes?

One of the things Jesus told the people is to do what the pharisees say not what they do. Matthew 23:2 Jesus considered the pharisees hyprocrites. So what was the pharisees saying? They were mentioning the Mosaic laws. What is in the Mosaic laws? Just rules and regulations on living your life, including rules and regulations on sodomy.

Besides these dudes started his Church.

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Yvonne wrote:
Gay activists live in denial, here is a small sample of activists going after Christians. It is not about tolerance, it is about destroying someone who does not share your views.
https://carm.org/homosexual-persecution-of-christians
http://www.cnsnews.com/commentary/bil ... ir-issue-sex-not-violence
http://www.catholic.org/news/national/story.php?id=64813
http://www.massresistance.org/docs/gen2/12b/acushnet_church/
http://chalcedon.edu/research/article ... ivists-threaten-violence/
http://boston.cbslocal.com/2012/05/16 ... ign-against-gay-marriage/

If Jesus was anti-gay, how come he couldn't help himself from hanging out with so many dudes?

Yvonne wrote:
Gay activists live in denial, here is a small sample of activists going after Christians. It is not about tolerance, it is about destroying someone who does not share your views.
https://carm.org/homosexual-persecution-of-christians
http://www.cnsnews.com/commentary/bil ... ir-issue-sex-not-violence
http://www.catholic.org/news/national/story.php?id=64813
http://www.massresistance.org/docs/gen2/12b/acushnet_church/
http://chalcedon.edu/research/article ... ivists-threaten-violence/
http://boston.cbslocal.com/2012/05/16 ... ign-against-gay-marriage/

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Yvonne wrote:
Only on JCList would someone say it is racist that American jobs should go to American citizens. That is the focus of my letter, I have seen many citizens, some personal friends get downsize and later their former companies hire H1B people. I have seen immigrants line up in Union City waiting to be hired by construction crews while Africian Americans asked to be hire by the same company. JC gives generous tax abatements with the idea local people are hired. The American citizen is being screwed. Yet they are the one who make sacrifices to this country especially during war times. I don't apologize for my statement.

If your American friends were better at their jobs, they wouldn't have lost them.

You're a bigot that's made anti-homosexual comments. Now, you're targeting immigrants. It sounds to me like whatever friends you have that lost jobs deservedly lost them. Tell your friends to improve their knowledge and then re-apply. Maybe they'll have a shot.

As someone that hires people (and am presently interviewing daily), if someone comes in and complains that they lost their job because the other person was an immigrant, they damn sure won't be paid by me.

You are putting Americans last, which makes you anti-America. Referring to my comments on gays, let me repeat, bakers, florists, etc. should not be forced to do something against their beliefs. Actually, I have rented to gays, but I will not call Jesus a liar when he said a man leaves his father and mother and clings to his wife and the two will be one flesh. The definition of marriage. I will not call Jesus a liar on the definition of marriage. But you have the free will to do that. You are a liberal who hate people who do not follow what you believe. You are not tolerate of other people's faith. Here is a woman who is following her faith, she will serve gays but will not violate her religion. You have no idea how strong faith is probably because you lack it yourself. http://www.adfmedia.org/News/PRDetail/8608

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OK let's return this thread back to it's original intent! I'm all for immigrants with 2 major caveats. #1 So as to better ingratiate yourself into the new society you now inhabit it would behoove you tremendously to make every an to assimilate to the land you now reside in by making at least a TOKEN effort to dress in a Western fashion because ostensibly you came here for a reason so for goodness sake could you please try to blend in as a simple friendly courtesy to your new country mates because HELLO we'd so rather not be constantly reminded of the 3rd world hell hole you ostensibly fled to IMPROVE your life here! NOT cool, which brings me to #2 Could you please try not to have a million kids once you get here so as to not further burden/stress our government social net/housing stock/infrastructure/local environment etc?? (And I couldn't care less what your religion dictates about the supposed virtues of breeding as this isn't freakin medieval times so if you'd like to expand your brood then please adopt as it's far more virtuous/ethical/conscientious to adopt when we live in an environmentally damaged, polluted, species being depleted at breakneck clip, overpopulated world teeming with over 7.2 billion people already!!!) That's it I'll get off my figurative soapbox now I'm out thanks for listening!!! (btw I do realize my closing rant applies to non immigrants also which I'm more then OK with)

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I am so glad I made your day, Who else could I be. Although I would shorten the name, it is too much to type.

Never before has my screen name been under attack than now.

It must have been difficult for the officials to place that name on your birth certificate.

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I am so glad I made your day, Who else could I be. Although I would shorten the name, it is too much to type.

Never before has my screen name been under attack than now.

Yvonne wrote:
I am so glad I made your day, Who else could I be. Although I would shorten the name, it is too much to type.

Yvonne wrote:

Never before has Christianity has been under attack than now...

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Frank M, you are a typical liberal. When I give the facts, you make personal attacks.

I realize you made a simple mistake confusing me with rescuelife, so no harm done even though that?s quite a stretch. You should know that none of the abuse or name-calling you receive on this website comes from me.

As far as your opinion, it seems to be based exclusively on your feelings about a small number of cases where sexual orientation is a factor, instead of the overall principle. You?re making no concession to the reality that if you had your way, and people were indeed free to discriminate against others on the basis of religious belief, that you, me, and everybody else would very quickly find ourselves the victims of unreasonable discrimination from others whose deeply held beliefs are extremely different from our own.

Going out on a limb, I would suggest that most conservatively and liberally-minded Americans tend to have similar opinions about discrimination on the basis of religion.

Never before has Christianity has been under attack than now.

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Frank M, you are a typical liberal. When I give the facts, you make personal attacks.

I realize you made a simple mistake confusing me with rescuelife, so no harm done even though that?s quite a stretch. You should know that none of the abuse or name-calling you receive on this website comes from me.

As far as your opinion, it seems to be based exclusively on your feelings about a small number of cases where sexual orientation is a factor, instead of the overall principle. You?re making no concession to the reality that if you had your way, and people were indeed free to discriminate against others on the basis of religious belief, that you, me, and everybody else would very quickly find ourselves the victims of unreasonable discrimination from others whose deeply held beliefs are extremely different from our own.

Going out on a limb, I would suggest that most conservatively and liberally-minded Americans tend to have similar opinions about discrimination on the basis of religion.

Yvonne wrote:
Frank M, you are a typical liberal. When I give the facts, you make personal attacks.

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Gay activist only go after Christians. That is the difference. There are gay activists who call up business after business to test these bakeries, florist, etc. They don't have the courage to go after Muslim businesses. Second, they ignore gay Judges who discriminate. People here say one thing but ignore what is really happening in the real world. The First Amendment protect me, regardless of what people say here. At your final judgment, you can call Jesus a liar on marriage, rescuelife or Frank M, I won't.

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You?re making this too complicated, Yvonne.

You stated very clearly that business owners should have the right to turn away certain customers on strictly religious grounds. That?s very simple to understand.

However, what you don?t seem to realize is that such a practice would apply to all business owners and every religious belief that could possibly exist. If that were the case, you, me, and everyone else would be subject to all sorts of discrimination that run counter to the values of American society.

You could also just ask an outspoken Christian conservative how he or she feels about Sharia Law. I've heard that some of them have opinions about it.

Your response Frank M is ?what if.? The ?what ifs? are happening but there are not getting any attention, I mentioned the Judge who discriminated against straight couples in performing marriages, now here is a video of another person providing a point I made earlier. He called numerous gay friendly bakeries and asked for a cake with the wording, ?Gay marriage is wrong.? And he could not get a bakery to do this. The response is - we only make cookies to using the f word. The only people being prosecuted are Christians not the Judge or the gay friendly bakeries. There is so much hyprocrisy here.
http://shoebat.com/2014/12/12/christi ... ice-watch-shocking-video/

Are you just choosing to ignore facts that are not convenient for your narrow world view or is it dementia (in which case I am sorry)? As previously pointed out, the Judge you reference did NOT discriminate against straight couples, but rather refused to do ANY marriages, straight or gay. And as someone else pointed out, judges have no civil obligation to perform marriages. Now you will pivot this inconvenient fact to something else...

Frank M, you are a typical liberal. WhenI give the facts, you make personal attacks. You ignore the gay bakeries and the Judge discriminating against Christians. Well he is another one, Muslim bakeries saying no to baking a same sex cake. Why don't gay activists take them to court? They don't have the guts. This person went to Dearborn, MI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgWIhYAtan4

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Frank_M wrote:
You?re making this too complicated, Yvonne.

You stated very clearly that business owners should have the right to turn away certain customers on strictly religious grounds. That?s very simple to understand.

However, what you don?t seem to realize is that such a practice would apply to all business owners and every religious belief that could possibly exist. If that were the case, you, me, and everyone else would be subject to all sorts of discrimination that run counter to the values of American society.

You could also just ask an outspoken Christian conservative how he or she feels about Sharia Law. I've heard that some of them have opinions about it.

Your response Frank M is ?what if.? The ?what ifs? are happening but there are not getting any attention, I mentioned the Judge who discriminated against straight couples in performing marriages, now here is a video of another person providing a point I made earlier. He called numerous gay friendly bakeries and asked for a cake with the wording, ?Gay marriage is wrong.? And he could not get a bakery to do this. The response is - we only make cookies to using the f word. The only people being prosecuted are Christians not the Judge or the gay friendly bakeries. There is so much hyprocrisy here.
http://shoebat.com/2014/12/12/christi ... ice-watch-shocking-video/

Are you just choosing to ignore facts that are not convenient for your narrow world view or is it dementia (in which case I am sorry)? As previously pointed out, the Judge you reference did NOT discriminate against straight couples, but rather refused to do ANY marriages, straight or gay. And as someone else pointed out, judges have no civil obligation to perform marriages. Now you will pivot this inconvenient fact to something else...

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Frank_M wrote:
You?re making this too complicated, Yvonne.

You stated very clearly that business owners should have the right to turn away certain customers on strictly religious grounds. That?s very simple to understand.

However, what you don?t seem to realize is that such a practice would apply to all business owners and every religious belief that could possibly exist. If that were the case, you, me, and everyone else would be subject to all sorts of discrimination that run counter to the values of American society.

You could also just ask an outspoken Christian conservative how he or she feels about Sharia Law. I've heard that some of them have opinions about it.

Your response Frank M is ?what if.? The ?what ifs? are happening but there are not getting any attention, I mentioned the Judge who discriminated against straight couples in performing marriages, now here is a video of another person providing a point I made earlier. He called numerous gay friendly bakeries and asked for a cake with the wording, ?Gay marriage is wrong.? And he could not get a bakery to do this. The response is - we only make cookies to using the f word. The only people being prosecuted are Christians not the Judge or the gay friendly bakeries. There is so much hyprocrisy here.
http://shoebat.com/2014/12/12/christi ... ice-watch-shocking-video/

Frank_M wrote:
You?re making this too complicated, Yvonne.

You stated very clearly that business owners should have the right to turn away certain customers on strictly religious grounds. That?s very simple to understand.

However, what you don?t seem to realize is that such a practice would apply to all business owners and every religious belief that could possibly exist. If that were the case, you, me, and everyone else would be subject to all sorts of discrimination that run counter to the values of American society.

You could also just ask an outspoken Christian conservative how he or she feels about Sharia Law. I've heard that some of them have opinions about it.