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fat-ass, do you feel the same way

about Obama and the IRS targeting conservative groups

and

Hilary

about Benghazi?

Because anyone who feels Christie should've had knowledge about a traffic jam should also feed that Obama should've known about the IRS issues and Hilary about what took place in Benghazi, no?

And, what's more damaging, a Ft. Lee traffic jam, or the IRS targeting groups for political advantage, or 4 American killed in a terror attack?

Well the three don't really compare, since it was found the IRS targeted liberal groups just as much, and because there isn't really any scandal or cover-up about Benghazi, just a tragedy.

Monroe wrote:
fat-ass, do you feel the same way

about Obama and the IRS targeting conservative groups

and

Hilary

about Benghazi?

Because anyone who feels Christie should've had knowledge about a traffic jam should also feed that Obama should've known about the IRS issues and Hilary about what took place in Benghazi, no?

And, what's more damaging, a Ft. Lee traffic jam, or the IRS targeting groups for political advantage, or 4 American killed in a terror attack?

JCMan8 wrote:

You have noble ideals but unfortunately this is not how the system works. The way it is structured, in order to win any election you have to raise lots of money. The higher profile the office, the more money. How do you raise this money? Through the political machine, and more specifically, through the corporations that fund them.

And these corporations are seeking a return on their investment. They do not donate tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars for charity, or because they like a particular candidate's ideals. Once the person they donate to gets into office, they expect repayment. And they receive it.

This is why Fulop tried to jam through the proposal to change Jersey City's ambulance contract to McCabe, because they (or their affiliates) donated to him and he also wants them to donate to his governor campaign. The only reason that proposal got jammed up is because it has been under review for being potentially illegal.

It is also why Obama is great buddies with Comcast's chief lobbyist, David Cohen who spent millions of dollars and lots of time helping Obama's campaign as well as the campaigns of countless Democratic senators. It's why Obama spent so much time at Cohen's house, Obama joked: "I have been here so much, the only thing I haven?t done in this house is have Seder dinner.? http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/20/bus ... casts-real-repairman.html

And you'd be a fool to think Republicans are any different. They just have a different set of corporate interests that they are beholden to. Although in the case of big telecoms such as Comcast, they own both parties.

So I admire your sentiment, but it is woefully naive to think that if a politician acts as a puppet for others, then they'll never get your vote. They all are "puppets," because they get rewarded in the process. Some are just better at hiding it.

fat-ass-bike wrote:
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Monroe wrote:
fat-ass, do you feel the same way

about Obama and the IRS targeting conservative groups

and

Hilary

about Benghazi?

Because anyone who feels Christie should've had knowledge about a traffic jam should also feed that Obama should've known about the IRS issues and Hilary about what took place in Benghazi, no?

And, what's more damaging, a Ft. Lee traffic jam, or the IRS targeting groups for political advantage, or 4 American killed in a terror attack?

I'm a swinging voter and when you have 3 tiers of government - Local / State / Federal my focus of importance and relevance differs 3 ways.

I voted democrat on one level and republican on another and don't get me wrong, I don't discriminate on whom I'm critical about or not happy with.

This said, the person or political party in-charge and 'closest to home', is where I can voice my dimes worth that could possibly have a miniscule impact to demonstrate my disapproval, will most likely cop the most, and I do have an issue in general with repetitive bullies / thugs and inept / lying politicians.

Don't worry, if Fulop or the next Governor 'cocks-up', I'll voice my dimes worth also and regardless of which party it my be.
Its the person on top of the political hierarchy that has the final word and not the political machine behind them - If they do act as a puppet for others, then they will never get my vote - Healy was a classic example.

Monroe wrote:
fat-ass, do you feel the same way

about Obama and the IRS targeting conservative groups

and

Hilary

about Benghazi?

Because anyone who feels Christie should've had knowledge about a traffic jam should also feed that Obama should've known about the IRS issues and Hilary about what took place in Benghazi, no?

And, what's more damaging, a Ft. Lee traffic jam, or the IRS targeting groups for political advantage, or 4 American killed in a terror attack?

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And Christie parties till 3AM with the host.

If only Obama had reached across the aisle and not been so thin skinned for the last 5 1/2 years we'd be in a much better place right now.

http://pagesix.com/2014/05/05/mchale- ... 3374.252943093.1382912305

bwahahahahahahaha

whatever you're smoking you got to give me some

Pushing a thousand posts here, and nothing, despite millions of dollars spent, Whizzy and Whiney in a froth, has been found to deny what Christie has said-he had nothing to do with the traffic jams.

Well it's a good thing that the people posting here are the ones doing the investigation! It makes your point so incredibly valid.

What's valid is that over 250,000 (yes, a quarter million) texts, emails, and other electronic communications have been examined and not a single one shows that Christie had any knowledge of the traffic jams. These include Christie's and Guadagno's personal phones, which they voluntarily gave to the 'independent' committee.

So what you are trying to contend is that because there is no electronic information about it, it didn't happen. Awesome.

Let's apply that to some other pieces of information... Christie and his wife never had sex. There appears to be no video of it. How do we know this event ever happened?!

I'm not a Christie fan but an inability to disprove is not proof of anything. You're arguing for a logical fallacy.

I am pointing out logical fallacy. It is absurd to argue that because no digital evidence has come up yet that Christie didn't know.

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And Christie parties till 3AM with the host.

If only Obama had reached across the aisle and not been so thin skinned for the last 5 1/2 years we'd be in a much better place right now.

http://pagesix.com/2014/05/05/mchale- ... 3374.252943093.1382912305

bwahahahahahahaha

whatever you're smoking you got to give me some

Pushing a thousand posts here, and nothing, despite millions of dollars spent, Whizzy and Whiney in a froth, has been found to deny what Christie has said-he had nothing to do with the traffic jams.

Well it's a good thing that the people posting here are the ones doing the investigation! It makes your point so incredibly valid.

What's valid is that over 250,000 (yes, a quarter million) texts, emails, and other electronic communications have been examined and not a single one shows that Christie had any knowledge of the traffic jams. These include Christie's and Guadagno's personal phones, which they voluntarily gave to the 'independent' committee.

So what you are trying to contend is that because there is no electronic information about it, it didn't happen. Awesome.

Let's apply that to some other pieces of information... Christie and his wife never had sex. There appears to be no video of it. How do we know this event ever happened?!

I'm not a Christie fan but an inability to disprove is not proof of anything. You're arguing for a logical fallacy.

Pebble wrote:
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Monroe wrote:
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Pebble wrote:
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boomer wrote:
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Monroe wrote:
And Christie parties till 3AM with the host.

If only Obama had reached across the aisle and not been so thin skinned for the last 5 1/2 years we'd be in a much better place right now.

http://pagesix.com/2014/05/05/mchale- ... 3374.252943093.1382912305

bwahahahahahahaha

whatever you're smoking you got to give me some

Pushing a thousand posts here, and nothing, despite millions of dollars spent, Whizzy and Whiney in a froth, has been found to deny what Christie has said-he had nothing to do with the traffic jams.

Well it's a good thing that the people posting here are the ones doing the investigation! It makes your point so incredibly valid.

What's valid is that over 250,000 (yes, a quarter million) texts, emails, and other electronic communications have been examined and not a single one shows that Christie had any knowledge of the traffic jams. These include Christie's and Guadagno's personal phones, which they voluntarily gave to the 'independent' committee.

So what you are trying to contend is that because there is no electronic information about it, it didn't happen. Awesome.

Let's apply that to some other pieces of information... Christie and his wife never had sex. There appears to be no video of it. How do we know this event ever happened?!

Monroe wrote:
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Pebble wrote:
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Monroe wrote:
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boomer wrote:
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Monroe wrote:
And Christie parties till 3AM with the host.

If only Obama had reached across the aisle and not been so thin skinned for the last 5 1/2 years we'd be in a much better place right now.

http://pagesix.com/2014/05/05/mchale- ... 3374.252943093.1382912305

bwahahahahahahaha

whatever you're smoking you got to give me some

Pushing a thousand posts here, and nothing, despite millions of dollars spent, Whizzy and Whiney in a froth, has been found to deny what Christie has said-he had nothing to do with the traffic jams.

Well it's a good thing that the people posting here are the ones doing the investigation! It makes your point so incredibly valid.

What's valid is that over 250,000 (yes, a quarter million) texts, emails, and other electronic communications have been examined and not a single one shows that Christie had any knowledge of the traffic jams. These include Christie's and Guadagno's personal phones, which they voluntarily gave to the 'independent' committee.

Pebble wrote:
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Monroe wrote:
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boomer wrote:
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Monroe wrote:
And Christie parties till 3AM with the host.

If only Obama had reached across the aisle and not been so thin skinned for the last 5 1/2 years we'd be in a much better place right now.

http://pagesix.com/2014/05/05/mchale- ... 3374.252943093.1382912305

bwahahahahahahaha

whatever you're smoking you got to give me some

Pushing a thousand posts here, and nothing, despite millions of dollars spent, Whizzy and Whiney in a froth, has been found to deny what Christie has said-he had nothing to do with the traffic jams.

Well it's a good thing that the people posting here are the ones doing the investigation! It makes your point so incredibly valid.

Monroe wrote:
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boomer wrote:
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Monroe wrote:
And Christie parties till 3AM with the host.

If only Obama had reached across the aisle and not been so thin skinned for the last 5 1/2 years we'd be in a much better place right now.

http://pagesix.com/2014/05/05/mchale- ... 3374.252943093.1382912305

bwahahahahahahaha

whatever you're smoking you got to give me some

Pushing a thousand posts here, and nothing, despite millions of dollars spent, Whizzy and Whiney in a froth, has been found to deny what Christie has said-he had nothing to do with the traffic jams.

boomer wrote:
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Monroe wrote:
And Christie parties till 3AM with the host.

If only Obama had reached across the aisle and not been so thin skinned for the last 5 1/2 years we'd be in a much better place right now.

http://pagesix.com/2014/05/05/mchale- ... 3374.252943093.1382912305

bwahahahahahahaha

whatever you're smoking you got to give me some

Monroe wrote:
And Christie parties till 3AM with the host.

If only Obama had reached across the aisle and not been so thin skinned for the last 5 1/2 years we'd be in a much better place right now.

http://pagesix.com/2014/05/05/mchale- ... 3374.252943093.1382912305

Monroe wrote:

nyrgravey9 wrote:
As someone who travels a lot for their job, I will now express what pretty much everyone outside of the NY/NJ area thinks when they read about this story today, or hears people continue debating it:

Are you idiots still talking about this non story?

nyrgravey9 wrote:
As someone who travels a lot for their job, I will now express what pretty much everyone outside of the NY/NJ area thinks when they read about this story today, or hears people continue debating it:

Are you idiots still talking about this non story?

fat-ass-bike wrote:

Br6dR wrote:
Ed Rendell: ?Not only can Chris Christie not win-I think he may have trouble finishing out his term?

Former Pennsylvania Gov. Ed Rendell say Governor Chris Chrisite is a "non-factor" in 2016 presidential race. Jeb Bush is new front runner he says.?

?Not only can Chris Christie not win, I think he may have trouble finishing out his term,? Rendell said Tuesday at the Rebovich Institute at Rider University. He added later: ?There?s absolutely no chance that he didn?t know this was going on if he didn?t order it or OK it. So I think he?s not a factor.??

?I mean, I look at it from the perspective as a very activist governor, which I was and he is,? he said. ?There is no way that eight people in my administration would be part of something and I wouldn?t know about. There is no way they would dare do something like this without getting clearance from me.??

?And besides that, the trashing of David Wildstein and Bridget Kelly indicate that they are setting up a ?he said, she said? battle,? Rendell said. ?They?ve trashed her. They?ve trashed women with this idea that she was emotionally unstable because she broke up with a man. Heaven forbid that breaking up with a man would make you do something mentally unstable like closing down four lanes of a bridge.?

http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/ ... 16_presidential_race.html