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Yvonne wrote:
Well according to this philosophy, no one is entitled to anything. By the way, I am a property owner and I entitled to be here based on full payment of taxes and family history. I've notice no one raise the issue of entitlement when the city is handing out generous abatements.

You have the right to stay where you are. However, you don't have the right (nor the ability) to stop change from happening around you.

Pshaw - for example, every successful NIMBY effort is a demonstration of one's right to stop change from happening around you.

WhoElseCouldIBe wrote:
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Yvonne wrote:
Well according to this philosophy, no one is entitled to anything. By the way, I am a property owner and I entitled to be here based on full payment of taxes and family history. I've notice no one raise the issue of entitlement when the city is handing out generous abatements.

You have the right to stay where you are. However, you don't have the right (nor the ability) to stop change from happening around you.

Yvonne wrote:
Well according to this philosophy, no one is entitled to anything. By the way, I am a property owner and I entitled to be here based on full payment of taxes and family history. I've notice no one raise the issue of entitlement when the city is handing out generous abatements.

Yvonne wrote:
Well according to this philosophy, no one is entitled to anything. By the way, I am a property owner and I entitled to be here based on full payment of taxes and family history. I've notice no one raise the issue of entitlement when the city is handing out generous abatements.

Yvonne wrote:
So a person who has been here over 40 years (roots from Hoboken) should move? My husband's family has been in downtown JC since 1880 but in a typical arrogant fashion, someone I am guessing who is a newbie is suggesting I move. When I videotaped the debates for council last year, there was a number of candidates in other parts of the city who referred to downtown as the "beautiful people." They did not mean that in a generous way.

Yvonne wrote:
Explain to me why having the highest population is such a great prize. I saw a tv program where the reporter compared some parts of NJ with the density of Bangladesh, India. They were referring to West NY and Union City. But I guess you can add Hoboken to that list also.

Yvonne wrote:
Yes, because, Fulop wants the title of being the mayor of the largest city, he wants to be the next Booker with speaking engagements around the nation. As I said earlier, why should long term residents move? If we stop selling the city with abatements, then the city would grow at a normal pace. Luckily, I have retired and do not take the PATH more, but I do feel for people now paying big bucks to get on the train only to be crushed. If you notice the bridge scandal, the development in Harrison by the PATH is connected to one of Christie's friends. We are doing development to reward political connections. There is an abatement hearing on 25 Senate Place which is close to the Skyway, 139, 1 & 9, Charlotte Circle. It is a massive route, but the planning department did not require a traffic study. It is unbelievable how the needs of the citizens are ignore so developers can make more money. I believe overdevelopment is destroying our quality of life.

Yvonne wrote:
It is difficult to respond to someone with a sentence for a name. Personally, I do not think we have the proper infrastructure to support a growing population. There are not enough schools, parks, or mass transit to support this growth. Van Vorst Park is an example of a park being overuse. Since Liberty Harbor Development, there has been more dogs and people in the park. There is not enough green space.

Yvonne wrote:
It is difficult to respond to someone with a sentence for a name. Personally, I do not think we have the proper infrastructure to support a growing population. There are not enough schools, parks, or mass transit to support this growth. Van Vorst Park is an example of a park being overuse. Since Liberty Harbor Development, there has been more dogs and people in the park. There is not enough green space.

Yvonne wrote:
If it means nothing then why the thread?

Yvonne wrote:
Explain to me why having the highest population is such a great prize. I saw a tv program where the reporter compared some parts of NJ with the density of Bangladesh, India. They were referring to West NY and Union City. But I guess you can add Hoboken to that list also.

Yvonne wrote:
So a person who has been here over 40 years (roots from Hoboken) should move? My husband's family has been in downtown JC since 1880 but in a typical arrogant fashion, someone I am guessing who is a newbie is suggesting I move. When I videotaped the debates for council last year, there was a number of candidates in other parts of the city who referred to downtown as the "beautiful people." They did not mean that in a generous way.

Yvonne wrote:
Population Density: 15,793.74 people per sq. mile, according to zip codes. It too bad there is no available data on cars for 07302 because that data should include cars that leave the turnpike and travel through the streets to reach the Holland Tunnel as well as the waterfront.

Yvonne wrote:
Actually, I did rent a parking space but it became a condo in the 1990s.

fat-ass-bike wrote:
The entire river coast opposite Manhattan will be the population growth region of NJ - As Manhattan gentrifies the upper west side so will the population growth increase on our side.
I've already made a grab for land in that area for my retirement, but I feel demand will not wait for 25 years!

Yvonne wrote:
JC is approximately 14 square miles, Newark is approximately 24 or 25 square miles. So if we pass Newark, then there will be more crowded people on PATH trains and more people fighting for parking. So I forgot, what is the prize for being first?

Stringer wrote:
Newark Mayor's race: Jeffries blasts Jersey City Mayor Steven Fulop over Newark comments

By David Giambusso/The Star-Ledger
March 05, 2014 at 5:48 PM

NEWARK ? Newark mayoral candidate Shavar Jeffries blasted his opponent South Ward Councilman Ras Baraka after Baraka supporter, Jersey City Mayor Steven Fulop, said his city will overtake Newark's population by 2016.

The Star-Ledger reported Tuesday that Fulop is claiming Jersey City will overtake Newark as the state's largest city in two years'. PolitckerNJ reported that Jeffries tore into Fulop Tuesday for the comments and demanded Baraka refuse his support.

Tuesday night Jeffries sent an email to supporters repeating the challenge.

"(Fulop) cited the 111 murders, almost half of which occurred in the South Ward, as evidence of Newark's downfall. Mayor Fulop wants Jersey City to prosper at Newark's expense," Jeffires said in a statement, demanding that Baraka refuse all political and financial support.

Fulop has promised to raise $200,000 for Baraka and help mobilize volunteers for the May 13, Newark election.

"Nothing short of a full denouncement of Fulop's political agenda at our expense is acceptable," Jeffries said.

Baraka fired back saying Jeffries was "hypocritical."

"A little while ago, (Jeffries) sought the support of Mayor Steve Fulop and Governor Codey. Today, he calls them political bosses. Everybody but Shavar Jeffries knows that Codey and Fulop are reformers who are leading the fight against the political bosses in our state," said Frank Baraff, a spokesman for Baraka.

"As the Star-Ledger has documented, by the time Mayor Baraka and Mayor Fulop leave office, Newark will still be the largest and greatest city in New Jersey," Baraff said. "And, that will be true for years beyond."

Fulop's office also hit back.

"Shavar is a smart guy who is saying desperate things," said Bob Sommer, senior advisor to Mayor Fulop. "Mayor Fulop's family has been in Newark for 40 years and they are still there every day. Of course we want both Newark and Jersey City to succeed, which is why the mayor has endorsed Ras."

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