Browsing this Thread:
5 Anonymous Users
Re: Gov Christie to Teacher: "I Am Tired Of You People!"
|
||||
---|---|---|---|---|
Home away from home
|
Quite frankly that in itself is a great goal considering Barry is bending this country over and sliding it in without even spitting on the proverbial shaft first.
Quote:
Posted on: 2013/11/4 0:13
|
|||
|
Re: Gov Christie to Teacher: "I Am Tired Of You People!"
|
||||
---|---|---|---|---|
Home away from home
|
Quote:
Every developed country faces those issues and similar. The US has had immigration as an issue since the country was formed, yet has only fallen behind in education comparatively recently. Perhaps you can set the OECD folks straight with your view? You ever been outside the US?
Posted on: 2013/11/3 23:55
|
|||
|
Re: Gov Christie to Teacher: "I Am Tired Of You People!"
|
||||
---|---|---|---|---|
Home away from home
|
I am voting for Christie but I stand by what I am saying, the typical educated person is not having children as they did in the past, the children in the schools especially the inner cities are children of immigrants and many at risk students. http://www.fem2pt0.com/2013/08/02/hav ... -without-having-children/
Posted on: 2013/11/3 23:47
|
|||
|
Re: Gov Christie to Teacher: "I Am Tired Of You People!"
|
||||
---|---|---|---|---|
Home away from home
Joined:
2006/11/27 12:04 Last Login : 2016/7/1 9:09 From Southern JC
Group:
Registered Users
Posts:
1205
|
Quote:
Now that's a load of crap. The GOP has had only one goal: derail Obama.
Posted on: 2013/11/3 23:35
|
|||
|
Re: Gov Christie to Teacher: "I Am Tired Of You People!"
|
||||
---|---|---|---|---|
Home away from home
|
It is not fair to compare this country with other countries in terms of education. In the inner cities perhaps half of the students do not speak English as a first language. While politicians often quote 12 million as illegal immigrants, the children of illegal immigrants are American citizens but they come from families without resources. Then, there is the problem of children being raised in single family homes. Usually the mother is working 2 jobs at minimum wage and children are lost in the process. The most educated adults are not having children as in the past so that is not part of the equation when compared to other countries.
Posted on: 2013/11/3 23:24
|
|||
|
Re: Gov Christie to Teacher: "I Am Tired Of You People!"
|
||||
---|---|---|---|---|
Home away from home
|
fat ass biker is hilarious-Christie is headed to, perhaps, an epic win and you think he was a bullied kid and/or is sensitive to 'fat jokes'? To a guy who brought a donut to eat on Letterman, lol?
Nope, he's had an incredible couple of years as a Republican in an overwhelmingly blue state-with a record of slowing the rate of tax increases, bi-partisan successes on pension reform, healthcare reform, property tax caps, township mergers (which we desperately need), going after independent authorities like the Passaic Valley Sewerage thieves (he fired the whole board I think), handling the multi billion dollar deficit left by Corslime, yadda yadda. I'm hoping he'll go after the Port Authority next, which is one area he's been soft on. If only we had a real leader in the White House who was willing to reach across the aisle and compromise the USA would be in a much better place right now. 2016 can't come soon enough.
Posted on: 2013/11/3 23:19
|
|||
|
Re: Gov Christie to Teacher: "I Am Tired Of You People!"
|
||||
---|---|---|---|---|
Home away from home
|
Compared to other countries the US is spending more and achieving less. However, there's actually a case to pay teachers more to attract better talent, but to reduce overall education spending.
So perhaps the teacher was wrong - the kids don't need more money, the teachers do... http://gpseducation.oecd.org/CountryP ... =USA&treshold=10&topic=EO
Posted on: 2013/11/3 22:56
|
|||
|
Re: Gov Christie to Teacher: "I Am Tired Of You People!"
|
||||
---|---|---|---|---|
Home away from home
|
To Brewster-the idea not to fund the pension system came from former Governor Christine Todd Whitman, she campaigned on cutting taxes so she cut the pension contributions. The problem ballooned so Jim McGreevey and others came into office, they followed suit.
Posted on: 2013/11/3 21:49
|
|||
|
Re: Gov Christie to Teacher: "I Am Tired Of You People!"
|
||||
---|---|---|---|---|
Home away from home
Joined:
2006/11/27 12:04 Last Login : 2016/7/1 9:09 From Southern JC
Group:
Registered Users
Posts:
1205
|
http://withabrooklynaccent.blogspot.c ... or-christie-from-new.html
Su nd ay , N o v e mb e r 3 , 20 1 3 Letter to Governor Christie from the New Jersey Teacher He Screamed At Dear Governor Christie, Yesterday I took the opportunity to come hear you speak on your campaign trail. I have never really heard you speak before except for sound bytes that I get on my computer. I don't have cable, I don't read newspapers. I don't have enough time. I am a public school teacher that works an average of 60 hours a week in my building. Yes, you can check with my principal. I run the after-school program along with my my classroom position. I do even more work when I am at home. For verification of this, just ask my children. I asked you one simple question yesterday. I wanted to know why you portray NJ Public Schools as failure factories. Apparently that question struck a nerve. When you swung around at me and raised your voice, asking me what I wanted, my first response ?I want more money for my students.? Notice, I did not ask for more money for me. I did not ask for my health benefits, my pension, a raise, my tenure, or even my contract that I have not had for nearly three years. We got into a small debate about how much money has been spent on education. Too me, there is never enough money that is spent on education. To invest in education is to invest in our future. We cannot keep short-changing our children and taking away opportunities for them to explore and learn. As more money is required for state-mandated curriculum changes and high-stakes standardized testing, it is our children that are losing. Programs are being cut all over the state as budget changes are forcing districts to cut music, art, after-school transportation, and youth-centered clubs. But let's put money aside for a moment. What do I want? What do 'we people' want? We want to be allowed to teach. Do you know that the past two months has been spent of our time preparing and completing paperwork for the Student Growth Objectives? Assessments were created and administered to our students on material that we have not even taught yet. Can you imagine how that made us feel? The students felt like they were worthless for not having any clue how to complete the assessments. The teachers felt like horrible monsters for having to make the students endure this. How is that helping the development of a child? How will that help them see the value in their own self-worth. This futile exercise took time away from planning and preparing meaningful lessons as well as the time spent in class actually completing the assessments. The evaluations have no statistical worth and has even been recognized as such by the NJ Department of Education. I am all for evaluation of a teacher. I recognize that I should be held accountable for my job. This does not worry me, as long as I am evaluated on my methods of teaching. I can not be held wholly accountable for the learning growth of a student when I am not accountable for all of the factors that influence this growth. Are you aware that poverty is the biggest determination of a child's educational success. If not, I suggest you read Diane Ravitch's new book Reign of Error. Take a moment and become enlightened. Getting back to the issue of money. I am fully aware of our educational budget. Where is all of this money? To me it seems like it is being siphoned right off into the hands of private companies as they reap the benefits of the charter schools and voucher programs that you have put into place. It certainly hasn't gone to improve school conditions in urban areas such as Jersey City. The conditions that these students and teachers are forced to be in are horrifying. Yet you are not allowing the funds needed to improve these conditions. Are you hoping that these schools get closed down and more students are forced to go to private charter schools while the districts are being forced to pay their tuition? I know for a fact that this is what has happened in Camden and Newark. Yet these charter schools are not held to the same accountability as our public schools. Why is that? Because deep down you know that you are not really dealing with the issues that influence a child's education. You are simply putting a temporary band-aid into place. Unfortunately that temporary fix is already starting to be exposed as Charter Schools are showing that they actually are not able to do better than public schools. You are setting up teachers to take the blame for all of this. You have portrayed us as greedy, lazy money-draining public servants that do nothing. I invite you to come do my job for one week Governor Christie. I invite you to come see my students, see how little they really have during the school day as they are being forced to keep learning for a single snapshot of their educational worth. For that one end-all, be-all test, the NJASK. The one that the future of my job and my life is now based upon. Why do you portray schools as failure factories? What benefit do you reap from this? Have you acquired financial promises for your future campaigns as you eye the presidential nomination? Has there been back-room meetings as you agree to divert public funds to private companies that are seeking to take over our public educational system? This is my theory. To accomplish all of this, you are setting up the teachers to take the blame. Unfortunately, you are not the only governor in our country that has this agenda. What do ?we people' want, Governor Christie? We want our schools back. We want to teach. We want to be allowed to help these children to grow, educationally, socially, and emotionally. We want to be respected as we do this, not bullied. BadAss Teacher, Melissa Tomlinson
Posted on: 2013/11/3 21:44
|
|||
|
Re: Gov Christie to Teacher: "I Am Tired Of You People!"
|
||||
---|---|---|---|---|
Home away from home
Joined:
2006/11/13 18:42 Last Login : 2022/2/28 7:31 From 280 Grove Street
Group:
Registered Users
Posts:
4192
|
Quote:
That's funny ... He should look into the mirror about what you call unaccountable job performance - Personally, I think he must of been bullied at school and has a sub-conscience resentment to anything school related. Now as the Gov. he has turned into the bully and I have a suspicion that his weight plays apart behind his out-bursts for which he is very conscience of ... I'm sure it must eat him up when hecklers yells out 'hey fat-ass'! There is no doubt we have a small % of poor educators, but you have that with every industry or institution. It wouldn't suprise me if Christie has an agenda for State funds and doesn't want any social need to eat into that agenda ... I'd even bet that the agenda is related to his backers and financial supporters. I'm amazed how some will make it a political party blame game issue - Once a political party blames the other party, they should be voted out at the next elections ... They are in power to serve the community not make excuses.
Posted on: 2013/11/3 21:32
|
|||
My humor is for the silent blue collar majority - If my posts offend, slander or you deem inappropriate and seek deletion, contact the webmaster for jurisdiction.
|
||||
|
Re: Gov Christie to Teacher: "I Am Tired Of You People!"
|
||||
---|---|---|---|---|
Home away from home
|
+1000. Unfortunately NYC is about to get a rude awakening. While they're all upset over the extremely inconsequential soda band, they're about to revert back 30 years to Dinkins era NYC.
NJ has indeed progressed under Christie, and despite a huge backwards step in Booker, will thankfully continue forward. The entire concept of teacher tenure is MADNESS. Anyway we can do away with this? Quote:
Posted on: 2013/11/3 21:27
|
|||
|
Re: Gov Christie to Teacher: "I Am Tired Of You People!"
|
||||
---|---|---|---|---|
Home away from home
|
Quote:
No he's tired of people being unaccountable for their job performance, unlike in the private sector. While his tenure reforms were a huge step forward (given that it would have been unthinkable under a Democrat) he did have to compromise (something also unthinkable to a Democrat) to get that accomplished in a bi-partisan manner. Which is why he scares the liberal loonies so much-his reforms make bi-partisan sense.
Posted on: 2013/11/3 21:08
|
|||
|
Re: Gov Christie to Teacher: "I Am Tired Of You People!"
|
||||
---|---|---|---|---|
Home away from home
Joined:
2006/11/13 18:42 Last Login : 2022/2/28 7:31 From 280 Grove Street
Group:
Registered Users
Posts:
4192
|
"Tired of you people"
Would this suggest Christie is tired of all educators ? Maybe the root problem to our education system and standards IS Christie !
Posted on: 2013/11/3 21:02
|
|||
My humor is for the silent blue collar majority - If my posts offend, slander or you deem inappropriate and seek deletion, contact the webmaster for jurisdiction.
|
||||
|
Re: Gov Christie to Teacher: "I Am Tired Of You People!"
|
||||
---|---|---|---|---|
Home away from home
|
Quote:
IIRC, the state ended up in the debt shitter by failing to fund state employee pensions for over a decade so pols of both parties could look like they were cutting taxes. Teachers are not state employees. I agree there's unbelievable waste in the Ed system, but it's a stretch to say this is their fault.
Posted on: 2013/11/3 20:57
|
|||
|
Re: Gov Christie to Teacher: "I Am Tired Of You People!"
|
||||
---|---|---|---|---|
Home away from home
|
Corey, you're fundamentally wrong. All Christie wanted in the deal for the tunnel to Macy's basement was an EQUAL sharing of the inevitable (re Boston Big Dig) cost overruns with the other shareholders, NY and the Feds. They refused. Why should NJ bend over and take the sole responsibility for the BILLIONS of dollars of overruns?
I'm sad that our supposed partners refused to be partners in this but our Governor did exactly the correct thing. NY and Obama screwed this up, not him.
Posted on: 2013/11/3 20:21
|
|||
|
Re: Gov Christie to Teacher: "I Am Tired Of You People!"
|
||||
---|---|---|---|---|
Home away from home
|
Even though christie has no shot of losing (Sandy), i will still gladly vote against this person who's been a terrible waste of opportunity for NJ. From the declining of billions for a new hudson tunnel, to demonizing teachers (seriously, teachers? a bunch of middle-class folks who're the people who - for the most part - do a hell of a job being in charge of your kids for 8+ hours a day for half of the year?) and everything else in between, he's been an astonishing failure for this state on so many levels.
not that i expect the next person to really hit every nail, but christie manages to hammer his thumb so often and over so much petty nonsense ($24 mil on booker's special election so fewer democrats vote tuesday as one of the more recent examples) that I can't possibly consider voting for him
Posted on: 2013/11/3 20:12
|
|||
|
Re: Gov Christie to Teacher: "I Am Tired Of You People!"
|
||||
---|---|---|---|---|
Home away from home
|
Quote:
How much more? Doesn't NJ spend more than just about every state in the USA? The overwhelming cost of Jersey City education costs are paid by NJ taxpayers rather than residents, you know, taking money away from educating their own kids.
Posted on: 2013/11/3 19:57
|
|||
|
Re: Gov Christie to Teacher: "I Am Tired Of You People!"
|
||||
---|---|---|---|---|
Home away from home
Joined:
2006/11/27 12:04 Last Login : 2016/7/1 9:09 From Southern JC
Group:
Registered Users
Posts:
1205
|
She wants money for the kids, not herself.
Quote:
Posted on: 2013/11/3 19:47
|
|||
|
Re: Gov Christie to Teacher: "I Am Tired Of You People!"
|
||||
---|---|---|---|---|
Home away from home
|
NJ bond rating went down from AA to AA-, there is too much debt, some of it unfunded. A great deal comes from education. Too many political choices are made to win over groups that couldn't care less if this state defaults. I am voting for Christie because he has the courage to say no to special interest groups. I will not buy NJ bonds, it is too risky, thanks to Christine Todd Whitman and Jim McGreevey.
Posted on: 2013/11/3 19:27
Edited by Yvonne on 2013/11/3 19:46:29
|
|||
|
Re: Gov Christie to Teacher: "I Am Tired Of You People!"
|
||||
---|---|---|---|---|
Home away from home
|
When a teacher says 'it's all about the kids' it's all about money in their pockets. Every time. Thousands of Newark kids are waitlisted for charter schools, even though Newark has gotten hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars of Abbot funding. Hundreds and hundreds of millions. Shampoo, rinse, repeat.
There are many, many wonderful teachers in NJ. But they've had the pendulum in their arc for way too long, because no matter how much they're paid they can't teach kids with parents that don't care. And paying them more won't solve that.
Posted on: 2013/11/3 19:12
|
|||
|
Gov Christie to Teacher: "I Am Tired Of You People!"
|
||||
---|---|---|---|---|
Home away from home
Joined:
2006/11/27 12:04 Last Login : 2016/7/1 9:09 From Southern JC
Group:
Registered Users
Posts:
1205
|
http://jerseyjazzman.blogspot.com/201 ... stie-to-teacher-i-am.html
New Jersey's governor, Chris Christie, has a long history of teacher bashing - not just teachers union bashing, but teacher bashing. Even when he's clearly in the lead, he can't help himself: he has to take a swipe at teachers whenever he can. It's almost pathological: even when he's up by a sizable margin, Chris Christie just can't turn down a chance to bash a teacher who gets too uppity - as he proved today: In an exclusive, I am privileged to present an account of what happened today from Melissa Tomlinson, the brave South Jersey teacher who showed up at Christie's partisan political rally in Somers Point this afternoon and dared to ask her governor a question - as is her right as a citizen and a taxpayer of New Jersey. Here, in Tomlinson's own words, is what happened: Well, I was in a crowd of all Christie supporters with my sign. They were all eyeing me apprehensively. A few tried to stare me down. Some of them even blocked me from the crowd. When his bus arrived one of his henchmen went on the bus to speak to him. I was right at the door. It was like he was told to deliberately turn away from me when he got off of the bus. I went to listen to him speak. I stood in the front of the crowd that was standing towards the back. I know he caught sight of me. He stared at me a few times during his speech. I left right as his speech was over to position myself right at the door of the bus. He came out, shaking everyone's hands as he was getting on the bus. I asked him my question, expecting him to ignore me but he suddenly turned and went off. I asked him: "Why do you portray our schools as failure factories?" His reply: "Because they are!" He said: "I am tired of you people. What do you want?" I told him I want money for my students. He fought back with the amount that he has spent on education. My response was along the lines of the fact his amount was not actually an increase from the previous years, given the rate of inflation and other factors. (I think I got that from one of your blogs). [Maybe, but if you don't believe me, ask these guys. - JJ] The crowd started arguing with me. He screamed at me to just do my job. The crowd cheered for him. I just looked at them and told them: "Hey, this is my life. I had to do this." I tried to follow him to Atlantic City to continue the conversation but the roads were blocked by police when I got there. CD "I am tired of you people."
Posted on: 2013/11/3 19:01
|
|||
|