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john1952 wrote:
It was not a g-d sample. It was 800 responses from Fulop campaign supporters.

In our case, it was a meeting with the residents of Gulls Cove and Liberty Harbor North. Now I know for a fact that many people at that meeting were not "Fulop campaign supporters." Certainly, our district, like every district in Ward E, voted overwhelmingly for Fulop, but so what?

Plenty of steps to be taken won't cost a dime. Recalibrating traffic signals to allow for longer pedestrian crossings costs nothing. Putting parking back on streets costs nothing. Other costs are negligible.

And I know that at our meeting, Candice forthrightly stated that any measures that cost significant money, such as the installation of "bulbouts" would be a longer term project.

Bogart wrote:
Another poster mentioned a problem that I think is directly related to safety--people parking illegally too close to intersections and blocking drivers' view of pedestrians in or about to enter the intersection and cross traffic. Fixing this problem is just a matter of enforcing existing law.

If increased enforcement doesn't solve the problem, maybe re-painting the curbs and putting new signs up will. Or increasing the fine for this offense.

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And Jersey City is part of a Pedestrian Safety Pilot program with the DOT
http://safety.fhwa.dot.gov/ped_bike/p ... ction/njersey/njersey.pdf
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john1952 wrote:
It was not a g-d sample. It was 800 responses from Fulop campaign supporters.

john1952 wrote:
You all really believe Candice Osborne can do this? Steve Fulop did not even talk about this stuff in 8 years and now she will do it with a sweep of her wand? Remember FixMyPath.com, I am still waiting for it to happen. Again, how are we going to pay for all this?

The city already has an award winning circulation study that has been paid for and needs to be done. Start working on this now. Don't scrap it and start over with crowd sourcing a study.

If you want to know what pre--Sandy Candice Osbourne was like, watch this video only two years before she was put on Fulop's ticket. I can't believe it, can you. So now in another thread she is the Mayor's heir apparent. First start rejecting tax and spending increases then look to the next chair.

Waiting for the video on the next Fulop elected councilperson. Maybe it will be the guy who lied about his high school degree.

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vindication15 wrote:

Not saying she does not address other issues or even issues I support, my comment is that getting the opinion of 800 people out of 49,600k Ward E residents (last census)....

A sample of 800 in a population of 49,600 is pretty impressive - that translates into a margin of error of +/- 3.44%. I have Fortune 500 clients at my market research & polling company who would kill for a sample that robust, but they don't want to pay for it.

Keep in mind that most polls in national political races are based on a sample of ~1000 to 3000 respondents, resulting in a margin of error of +/- 2% to 3%.

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La_Verdad wrote:
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vindication15 wrote:

You should drive on columbus at 8-9AM and you'll see dozens froggy across columbus on a green light - everyday.

You just hit on a big issue - and a reason (among many) why the opinions of drivers need to come a distant third (behind pedestrians and cyclists.) If I stood anywhere along Columbus between 8 and 9 am and picked cars at random, how many would be Ward E, Jersey City residents? Probably about 1.8%. How many would be Jersey City residents at all? 10% maybe?

This plan - similar to plans adopted in cities throughout the country - is a recognition that times have changed and urban streets can't be the sole province of cars. Whereas in the past, cities would build residential buildings with 1:1 apartment to parking space requirements, now dense urban environments are allowing ratios below 0.5:1 in many cases. Car ownership in urban areas has declined over the past decade. Total miles driven in the U.S. have declined since 2007 by almost 10%.

No one is saying people shouldn't own cars. No one is saying people shouldn't be able to drive their cars. What is being said is that for far too long, the prioritization of moving cars along through city streets as quickly as possible has trumped all else. That practice has come at the great expense of lives and safety, noise, air pollution and blight.

More pedestrians were killed by cars in 2009 in NYC than people who were killed by guns. No drivers were killed by pedestrians. If you have the time, spend an hour on the Transportation Alternatives website - it not only discusses various traffic calming and pedestrian and bicycle safety topics in detail, you can see the results of the efforts NYC has made over the past decade.

To my liking, this plan doesn't go nearly far enough, but I recognize that it's a start. We need strict enforcement of speed limits, not lip service or electronic signs that flash your speed like a high score on a video game. I would have liked to have seen bike lanes, the mere presence of which have been proven to calm traffic, incorporated into the first phase. There are probably at least a half dozen spots downtown that would greatly benefit from a blocklong pedestrian plaza. Rush hour bans on left turns at the major intersections along Columbus and Grand would greatly eliminate, if not reduce entirely, the incentive for Holland Tunnel bound traffic to get off the turnpike.

But.... for the first time, someone is willing to make this issue a priority and do the lifting and for that, I am grateful.

Yes, I am running for mayor on my plan below - do I have your support?

1. Turn 10% of the roads to pedestrian only plazas

2. Make the rest of the roads toll roads

3. Remove all traffic lights and replace lights with stop signs!

4. Reclaim all parking lots and turn them into homeless shelters

5. Reclaim all driveways and turn them into artist dens!

6. If all the above do not work, think of other things to alienate the tax paying, middle income residents of Ward E!

vindication15 wrote:

Not saying she does not address other issues or even issues I support, my comment is that getting the opinion of 800 people out of 49,600k Ward E residents (last census)....

vindication15 wrote:
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La_Verdad wrote:
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vindication15 wrote:

You should drive on columbus at 8-9AM and you'll see dozens froggy across columbus on a green light - everyday.

You just hit on a big issue - and a reason (among many) why the opinions of drivers need to come a distant third (behind pedestrians and cyclists.) If I stood anywhere along Columbus between 8 and 9 am and picked cars at random, how many would be Ward E, Jersey City residents? Probably about 1.8%. How many would be Jersey City residents at all? 10% maybe?

This plan - similar to plans adopted in cities throughout the country - is a recognition that times have changed and urban streets can't be the sole province of cars. Whereas in the past, cities would build residential buildings with 1:1 apartment to parking space requirements, now dense urban environments are allowing ratios below 0.5:1 in many cases. Car ownership in urban areas has declined over the past decade. Total miles driven in the U.S. have declined since 2007 by almost 10%.

No one is saying people shouldn't own cars. No one is saying people shouldn't be able to drive their cars. What is being said is that for far too long, the prioritization of moving cars along through city streets as quickly as possible has trumped all else. That practice has come at the great expense of lives and safety, noise, air pollution and blight.

More pedestrians were killed by cars in 2009 in NYC than people who were killed by guns. No drivers were killed by pedestrians. If you have the time, spend an hour on the Transportation Alternatives website - it not only discusses various traffic calming and pedestrian and bicycle safety topics in detail, you can see the results of the efforts NYC has made over the past decade.

To my liking, this plan doesn't go nearly far enough, but I recognize that it's a start. We need strict enforcement of speed limits, not lip service or electronic signs that flash your speed like a high score on a video game. I would have liked to have seen bike lanes, the mere presence of which have been proven to calm traffic, incorporated into the first phase. There are probably at least a half dozen spots downtown that would greatly benefit from a blocklong pedestrian plaza. Rush hour bans on left turns at the major intersections along Columbus and Grand would greatly eliminate, if not reduce entirely, the incentive for Holland Tunnel bound traffic to get off the turnpike.

But.... for the first time, someone is willing to make this issue a priority and do the lifting and for that, I am grateful.

Yes, I am running for mayor on my plan below - do I have your support?

1. Turn 10% of the roads to pedestrian only plazas

2. Make the rest of the roads toll roads

3. Remove all traffic lights and replace lights with stop signs!

4. Reclaim all parking lots and turn them into homeless shelters

5. Reclaim all driveways and turn them into artist dens!

6. If all the above do not work, think of other things to alienate the tax paying, middle income residents of Ward E!

La_Verdad wrote:
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vindication15 wrote:

You should drive on columbus at 8-9AM and you'll see dozens froggy across columbus on a green light - everyday.

You just hit on a big issue - and a reason (among many) why the opinions of drivers need to come a distant third (behind pedestrians and cyclists.) If I stood anywhere along Columbus between 8 and 9 am and picked cars at random, how many would be Ward E, Jersey City residents? Probably about 1.8%. How many would be Jersey City residents at all? 10% maybe?

This plan - similar to plans adopted in cities throughout the country - is a recognition that times have changed and urban streets can't be the sole province of cars. Whereas in the past, cities would build residential buildings with 1:1 apartment to parking space requirements, now dense urban environments are allowing ratios below 0.5:1 in many cases. Car ownership in urban areas has declined over the past decade. Total miles driven in the U.S. have declined since 2007 by almost 10%.

No one is saying people shouldn't own cars. No one is saying people shouldn't be able to drive their cars. What is being said is that for far too long, the prioritization of moving cars along through city streets as quickly as possible has trumped all else. That practice has come at the great expense of lives and safety, noise, air pollution and blight.

More pedestrians were killed by cars in 2009 in NYC than people who were killed by guns. No drivers were killed by pedestrians. If you have the time, spend an hour on the Transportation Alternatives website - it not only discusses various traffic calming and pedestrian and bicycle safety topics in detail, you can see the results of the efforts NYC has made over the past decade.

To my liking, this plan doesn't go nearly far enough, but I recognize that it's a start. We need strict enforcement of speed limits, not lip service or electronic signs that flash your speed like a high score on a video game. I would have liked to have seen bike lanes, the mere presence of which have been proven to calm traffic, incorporated into the first phase. There are probably at least a half dozen spots downtown that would greatly benefit from a blocklong pedestrian plaza. Rush hour bans on left turns at the major intersections along Columbus and Grand would greatly eliminate, if not reduce entirely, the incentive for Holland Tunnel bound traffic to get off the turnpike.

But.... for the first time, someone is willing to make this issue a priority and do the lifting and for that, I am grateful.

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vindication15 wrote:
If you want to be fair to both drivers and pedestrians, then get both sides of the story.

Could you please find the stats on drivers injured or killed by jaywalkers?

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At the end of the day, even if you walk across the street on a green light and a car hits you, it's the driver and not the pedestrian's fault.

Have you ever been hit by a car? I bet not. Well here is a little bit of inside information. It sucks. "At the end of the day" is a little bit of an understatement. At the end of my day I was picking asphalt out of my skin.

Do not reduce the importance of pedestrian safety to an us vs. them argument because you have a gripe about moving your foot two inches to the left for a few jaywalkers when the majority of pedestrians are obeying the law. The argument is weak if not insulting.

moobycow wrote:

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vindication15 wrote:

You should drive on columbus at 8-9AM and you'll see dozens froggy across columbus on a green light - everyday.

True enough, but mostly that's because the traffic signal is setup for cars and not pedestrians. If you show up and no one has pushed the pedestrian button you simply won't get a walk signal. So if you walk up to the light looking to cross you're left wondering if you really can't cross or if no one pressed the button.


Of course some people are dickish and will force their way across the road. At the end of the day dickish pedestrian behavior is an inconvenience. Disckish driver behavior is potentially deadly.

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jklm wrote:
City of Jersey City/JCPA needs to raise the yearly residential zone Permit Parking from $15 to something approaching $100 - then we can try to pay the officers needed to enforce the permit parking 16 hours a day, 365 days a year.

That's silly, all we need is the JCPA to have the productivity of any other citys parking agency, then they would be filling the city's coffers in addition to paying their own way. Get rid of the clowns like that guy who was a full time JCPA supervisor AND a full time teacher. He's a poster child for how the city is viewed by the "old school" as nothing but a cow to be milked.

Hopefully JCPA will combine resources with the Police Dept. - that JCPA supervisor could be out of a second job.
Fees for the privilege to park on Jersey City streets should come from vehicle owners. What's the point of creating permit parking without enforcement? Someone has to pay for this, why not the car owners instead of the property owners? Right now the city also gets a portion of the violation $$ collected, right?

vindication15 wrote:

You should drive on columbus at 8-9AM and you'll see dozens froggy across columbus on a green light - everyday.

La_Verdad wrote:
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vindication15 wrote:

You should drive on columbus at 8-9AM and you'll see dozens froggy across columbus on a green light - everyday.

You just hit on a big issue - and a reason (among many) why the opinions of drivers need to come a distant third (behind pedestrians and cyclists.) If I stood anywhere along Columbus between 8 and 9 am and picked cars at random, how many would be Ward E, Jersey City residents? Probably about 1.8%. How many would be Jersey City residents at all? 10% maybe?

This plan - similar to plans adopted in cities throughout the country - is a recognition that times have changed and urban streets can't be the sole province of cars. Whereas in the past, cities would build residential buildings with 1:1 apartment to parking space requirements, now dense urban environments are allowing ratios below 0.5:1 in many cases. Car ownership in urban areas has declined over the past decade. Total miles driven in the U.S. have declined since 2007 by almost 10%.

No one is saying people shouldn't own cars. No one is saying people shouldn't be able to drive their cars. What is being said is that for far too long, the prioritization of moving cars along through city streets as quickly as possible has trumped all else. That practice has come at the great expense of lives and safety, noise, air pollution and blight.

More pedestrians were killed by cars in 2009 in NYC than people who were killed by guns. No drivers were killed by pedestrians. If you have the time, spend an hour on the Transportation Alternatives website - it not only discusses various traffic calming and pedestrian and bicycle safety topics in detail, you can see the results of the efforts NYC has made over the past decade.

To my liking, this plan doesn't go nearly far enough, but I recognize that it's a start. We need strict enforcement of speed limits, not lip service or electronic signs that flash your speed like a high score on a video game. I would have liked to have seen bike lanes, the mere presence of which have been proven to calm traffic, incorporated into the first phase. There are probably at least a half dozen spots downtown that would greatly benefit from a blocklong pedestrian plaza. Rush hour bans on left turns at the major intersections along Columbus and Grand would greatly eliminate, if not reduce entirely, the incentive for Holland Tunnel bound traffic to get off the turnpike.

But.... for the first time, someone is willing to make this issue a priority and do the lifting and for that, I am grateful.

jklm wrote:
City of Jersey City/JCPA needs to raise the yearly residential zone Permit Parking from $15 to something approaching $100 - then we can try to pay the officers needed to enforce the permit parking 16 hours a day, 365 days a year. Make downtown permit parking 8am-midnight, 7 days a week, especially near the PATH.
I suggest making those with driveways pay a yearly fee as well (less parking spaces because of the driveway) if they don't already.

vindication15 wrote:

You should drive on columbus at 8-9AM and you'll see dozens froggy across columbus on a green light - everyday.

vindication15 wrote:
If you want to be fair to both drivers and pedestrians, then get both sides of the story.

vindication15 wrote:
At the end of the day, even if you walk across the street on a green light and a car hits you, it's the driver and not the pedestrian's fault.

JadedJC wrote:
I can't honestly say I've come across egregious pedestrian behavior when I'm driving. If someone happens to jaywalk, I slow down and let them cross the street. No big deal, because I accept that I live in a densely populated city and I shouldn't be going faster than 25 mph anyway. If I see a yellow light, I actually slow down and stop rather than floor it to try to beat the light. I know this doesn't make me popular with other drivers, but screw them. This is the city I live in, and how I want drivers to behave starts with me.... Now, bicyclists, on the other hand... They really need to start cracking down on the wankers who bike on sidewalks and against the flow of traffic!