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[quote]Brooklyn, every neighbor hood has some type of train, shopping area, etc. JC does not.

Well thats wrong as pretty much every section of the city has a shopping area( Central ave, Westside ave, MLK, etc). Now if you were to say that JC's neighborhood shopping centers, when compared to Brooklyn, are lackluster then I would have to agree.

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user1111 wrote:
[quote]Brooklyn, every neighbor hood has some type of train, shopping area, etc. JC does not.

Well thats wrong as pretty much every section of the city has a shopping area( Central ave, Westside ave, MLK, etc). Now if you were to say that JC's neighborhood shopping centers, when compared to Brooklyn, are lackluster then I would have to agree.

user1111 wrote:
[quote]Brooklyn, every neighbor hood has some type of train, shopping area, etc. JC does not.

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Um JC was rated one of the most walkable cities in the country. How is it not walkable?

I can walk to two PATH stations, four supermarkets, Target, the mall, restaurants and bars in Hoboken and JC...

And it's interesting. Sometimes too interesting because of the tunnel, but nonetheless "interesting."

Try walking outside of your bubble, walking anywhere outside of downtown is BS. This is why so many of us have a car outside of the dtjc area. Brooklyn, every neighbor hood has some type of train, shopping area, etc. JC does not. I am fortunate to live next to a light rail and close enough to Bayonne to shop but many residents are not.

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Good News from Zillow, GV & BL prices are finally rising.
Zillow predicts New York Metro home values will rise 0.3% next year.

Brooklyn real estate boom: Home prices so hot buyers returning to Manhattan

Here is the break down.

Jersey City
M-o-M 3.5?%
Q-o-Q 7.8?%
Y-o-Y 11.5?%
$?289,900

Bergen-Lafayette
9.4?%
6.1?%
0.0?%
$?175,000

Downtown
-5.3?%
-7.2?%
1.1?%
$?450,000

Greenville
0.0?%
0.0?%
8.8?%
$?199,000

Hackensack Riverfront
-4.5?%
-8.6?%
10.3?%
$?319,900

Journal Square
-2.9?%
-5.6?%
4.9?%
$?235,000

Liberty Park
15.0?%
12.4?%
-18.4?%
$?399,000

Lincoln Park
?
?
?
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McGinley Square
-0.4?%
4.2?%
12.6?%
$?224,000

The Heights
1.1?%
1.1?%
11.6?%
$?278,000

The Waterfront
6.2?%
5.3?%
6.4?%
$?595,000

West Side
-5.1?%
-2.1?%
2.8?%
$?185,000

RUinHamiltonPark wrote:
Um JC was rated one of the most walkable cities in the country. How is it not walkable?

I can walk to two PATH stations, four supermarkets, Target, the mall, restaurants and bars in Hoboken and JC...

And it's interesting. Sometimes too interesting because of the tunnel, but nonetheless "interesting."

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Property taxes in JC are high, they are much higher than Hoboken.

You can find places in Hoboken around 300k taxed in the 3-4k range, not so in JC (and if so in for a nasty surprise in the recent assessment).

I'm in the process of purchasing in JC, and looked in Hoboken as well. In some cases the property tax difference made Hoboken practically the same price.

The schools and services in both are equally questionable.

However, both pale in comparison to say, Union City, where taxes in that range are often 9k.

The issue IMO is that property taxes in towns with good, well regarded schools are similar. I'm a single individual, but at least for resale value, in those places you can argue a value that you cannot in JC. The value in JC comes from location, and it's very silly to argue that we should have higher taxes for access to the PATH with is a bi-state agecy, or being by the river...we pay high taxes because we overpay for corrupt public services..

In any case, in NJ you don't have NYC income tax, less, in some cases, much lower sales tax, the PATH costs less...NJ is cheaper still.

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Sometimes walking around Grove and the littered PATH station makes me feel it is a third world country....

Jesus Christ. What is it with people on this board and the PATH stations. I'm curious how many people have actually lived in NYC that complain to no end about the supposed crowding and how dirty the PATH is. Do we take the same trains??? The PATH is at least as clean as the NYC subway and not as crowded. I commute in every morning at peak rush hour between 8:00 and 8:30 and it's not nearly as bad as even underutilized MTA lines which I took for years before moving to JC.

Maybe I'm wrong but I feel like there's a lot of people in JC that begrudgingly moved from the suburbs to be closer to their jobs in the city. That's the only reason I can come up with for all the complaining. Seems like people who just don't like cities in general or have never lived in one.

JC and the PATH aren't without their problems but c'mon.

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The thing about BK and NYC is that its very walkable. I walked from Williamsburg to Cypress Hill a few weeks ago and it was a nice interesting walk. When I walk from GV to DTJC is not very enjoyable nor is it interesting.

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Brooklyn is getting ridiculous. I have a friend who bought a condo and for the price paid I though he'd be living right next to a subway station. Instead, he's like a mile away...and for the money he paid, I could buy a REALLY NICE condo in JC or a coop in Manhattan.

Some people get caught up in the frenzy!

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Sometimes walking around Grove and the littered PATH station makes me feel it is a third world country....

Oh the irony that this reads exactly like a #firstworldproblem!

asny10011 wrote:
Sometimes walking around Grove and the littered PATH station makes me feel it is a third world country....

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Which NJ cities aside from Hoboken (which we have easy access to) have more nightlife? Morristown, New Brunswick, Atlantic City...that's about it.

And outside of Manhattan in the boroughs? Perhaps Astoria and Williamsburg. You think Bed-Stuy or Bushwick or Crown Heights have nightlife?

Do any of these places (aside from Hoboken which might) pay anywhere near as much property tax/rent as DTJC? I think not! It doesn't seem unreasonable to expect we would have more options (restaurants and/or nightlife) considering this.

.....If you don't want to pay high taxes, move to some shit hole without government services and save us all the trouble.

Funny thing is- pay the taxes and already without the govenment services!! (unfortunately) That's how it works in JC. Believe me- eager to go!

FKSJC, can you explain this comment? It's confusing.

I sure hope the last post was facetious! Rather simple as I (and apparently others) see it. Life in DTJC- pay BIG taxes, nothing or little in return. Is that less confusing?

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Which NJ cities aside from Hoboken (which we have easy access to) have more nightlife? Morristown, New Brunswick, Atlantic City...that's about it.

And outside of Manhattan in the boroughs? Perhaps Astoria and Williamsburg. You think Bed-Stuy or Bushwick or Crown Heights have nightlife?

Do any of these places (aside from Hoboken which might) pay anywhere near as much property tax/rent as DTJC? I think not! It doesn't seem unreasonable to expect we would have more options (restaurants and/or nightlife) considering this.

.....If you don't want to pay high taxes, move to some shit hole without government services and save us all the trouble.

Funny thing is- pay the taxes and already without the govenment services!! (unfortunately) That's how it works in JC. Believe me- eager to go!

FKSJC, can you explain this comment? It's confusing.

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asny10011 wrote:
Sometimes walking around Grove and the littered PATH station makes me feel it is a third world country....

Jesus Christ. What is it with people on this board and the PATH stations. I'm curious how many people have actually lived in NYC that complain to no end about the supposed crowding and how dirty the PATH is. Do we take the same trains??? The PATH is at least as clean as the NYC subway and not as crowded. I commute in every morning at peak rush hour between 8:00 and 8:30 and it's not nearly as bad as even underutilized MTA lines which I took for years before moving to JC.

Maybe I'm wrong but I feel like there's a lot of people in JC that begrudgingly moved from the suburbs to be closer to their jobs in the city. That's the only reason I can come up with for all the complaining. Seems like people who just don't like cities in general or have never lived in one.

JC and the PATH aren't without their problems but c'mon.

asny10011 wrote:
Sometimes walking around Grove and the littered PATH station makes me feel it is a third world country....

asny10011 wrote:
Sometimes walking around Grove and the littered PATH station makes me feel it is a third world country....

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RUinHamiltonPark wrote:
Which NJ cities aside from Hoboken (which we have easy access to) have more nightlife? Morristown, New Brunswick, Atlantic City...that's about it.

And outside of Manhattan in the boroughs? Perhaps Astoria and Williamsburg. You think Bed-Stuy or Bushwick or Crown Heights have nightlife?

Do any of these places (aside from Hoboken which might) pay anywhere near as much property tax/rent as DTJC? I think not! It doesn't seem unreasonable to expect we would have more options (restaurants and/or nightlife) considering this.

.....If you don't want to pay high taxes, move to some shit hole without government services and save us all the trouble.

Funny thing is- pay the taxes and already without the govenment services!! (unfortunately) That's how it works in JC. Believe me- eager to go!

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RUinHamiltonPark wrote:
Which NJ cities aside from Hoboken (which we have easy access to) have more nightlife? Morristown, New Brunswick, Atlantic City...that's about it.

And outside of Manhattan in the boroughs? Perhaps Astoria and Williamsburg. You think Bed-Stuy or Bushwick or Crown Heights have nightlife?

Do any of these places (aside from Hoboken which might) pay anywhere near as much property tax/rent as DTJC? I think not! It doesn't seem unreasonable to expect we would have more options (restaurants and/or nightlife) considering this.

.....If you don't want to pay high taxes, move to some shit hole without government services and save us all the trouble.

FKSJC wrote:
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RUinHamiltonPark wrote:
Which NJ cities aside from Hoboken (which we have easy access to) have more nightlife? Morristown, New Brunswick, Atlantic City...that's about it.

And outside of Manhattan in the boroughs? Perhaps Astoria and Williamsburg. You think Bed-Stuy or Bushwick or Crown Heights have nightlife?

Do any of these places (aside from Hoboken which might) pay anywhere near as much property tax/rent as DTJC? I think not! It doesn't seem unreasonable to expect we would have more options (restaurants and/or nightlife) considering this.