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leigh13 wrote:
Okay, let's put the issue of the $1 for cell phone charging to bed, shall we? It makes me sick to see people who know nothing about what ACTUALLY happened say that it's a good thing to see this cafe closed.

Made With Love lost power for several days during Sandy. The owner lost power at her home for over a week and had her car destroyed as well. Most of the food had to be tossed at great expense, and the owner was denied insurance coverage for any of the loss. So we're already looking at a difficult situation here, right?

She managed to find a generator that would allow her to get power back in the cafe and open for some minimal amount of business. At the time, she received advice to ask for donations to help cover the cost of the generator and fuel. Looking back, yes, this was probably a poor decision. However, I don't believe anyone was turned away if they did not have any money to help defray the costs.

The owner was in an extremely difficult situation, stuck in a home with no power herself and no transportation. She was only asking for help to defray the cost of running the generator. In the end, Sandy played no small part in the closing of the Cafe. And yet, cowards on this board accuse her of "profiting" from Sandy somehow?


Personally, I will greatly miss Made With Love and the positive influence it had on the neighborhood.

My home filled with seven feet of water. I lost every single thing I owned and no longer had a place to live. No, we don't have to put the issue to rest. It was disgusting and shameful that while so many of my friends and neighbors were helping me out while asking nothing in return, a supposedly community-oriented business owner wanted to profit off of my misfortune. Good riddance Made With Love.

vindication15 wrote:
Look, a brownstone is as much cookie cutter as a luxury condo. I have no problem with disparaging neighborhoods that are unsafe, dangerous, and relatively ghetto - filled with 99 cent stores and places where you have to "smell meat" because the expiration date doesn't matter? rofl. When you say however that Newport is a cookie cutter neighborhood with no restaurants, bland, etc. you just look silly.

If you take Newport out of the equation, the median income of JC drops by like 50% (Guesstimate but I bet I'm not far off). Those "bland" areas like Newport and PH (where I am) are the life blood of JC. You should be thanking those people who live in these areas everyday and twice on Sunday.

In regards to CP, just look at the sales records. Even during the downturn, CP held up in value. If there were rankings of luxury condos, CP with the amenities finishes, and views would be the top 3 places to live. Sugarlofts would be close behind. In any case, there is no point arguing this because you will never live nor, I assume, can afford to live in CP.

I'm doing you a favor by telling you not to anger those in Newport or PH because without them, JC wouldn't even be the crap hole considered by NY'ers. Think of the most dangerous parts of greenville spread over downtown...no one wants that - not even you. Deep in your heart, I know when you say "cookie-cutter," you are showing love by saving face. It's okay, I understand.

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vindication15 wrote:

I don't think any sane person can think Crystal Point is cookie cutter. That building is a work of art and the views from it are very much unparallelled.

LOL. That's a load of crap. Kindly tell me how this is in any way some special thing compared to hundreds of other buildings like it?

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vindication15 wrote:
Let me save people time from reading your post and summarize your point in four words: "I'm poor and jealous."

While you have to make embarrassingly uninformed assumptions to reach that conclusion, your petty conceit and childlike understanding of the world are publically documented traits. Good luck with that.

vindication15 wrote:

I don't think any sane person can think Crystal Point is cookie cutter. That building is a work of art and the views from it are very much unparallelled.

vindication15 wrote:
Let me save people time from reading your post and summarize your point in four words: "I'm poor and jealous."

JerseyAveGirl wrote:
Thanks for the support and your reply explains exactley what I mean. Crystal Point is not the Cooper Union building. Lets be realistic here. I'm sure it is lovely and the veiws are great!

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vindication15 wrote:
I don't think any sane person can think Crystal Point is cookie cutter. That building is a work of art and the views from it are very much unparallelled.

Reinforced concrete, glass curtain wall, residential grade architecture is almost always ?cookie cutter? by virtue of its design constraints. It doesn?t matter if the Keebler Elves can sell a whole pack for $5 or if a single one costs $5 at a posh bakery, I know a cookie when I see one. Whether you like the design is a matter of a taste, but calling it ?a work of art? is a stretch.

And are you really in an enlightened enough position to question a person?s sanity?? Careful?what with all that glass around.

vindication15 wrote:
I don't think any sane person can think Crystal Point is cookie cutter. That building is a work of art and the views from it are very much unparallelled.

JerseyAveGirl wrote:
Maybe I am wrong then, or don't know where the line cuts. All I can think of is Satis, White Horse, Casino, Amilia's, Brick Oven Pizza place and Prontos. I just thought it was a small selection for a fairly big population, since from what I have seen its more larger buildings than brownstones. But I could possibly be wrong. As for the cookie cutter comment, it came from the building style, there is a lot of newer condo/apartment buildings that I have seen in that area, not original brownstones like in DT

JerseyAveGirl wrote:
Maybe I am wrong then, or don't know where the line cuts. All I can think of is Satis, White Horse, Casino, Amilia's, Brick Oven Pizza place and Prontos. I just thought it was a small selection for a fairly big population, since from what I have seen its more larger buildings than brownstones. But I could possibly be wrong. As for the cookie cutter comment, it came from the building style, there is a lot of newer condo/apartment buildings that I have seen in that area, not original brownstones like in DT

Mr_Johnson wrote:
The $1 went towards the generator my ass. In a natural disaster, you do what you can to help your fellow man. Did you see anyone else requiring a fee to charge your electronic devices? If she CHOSE to have a generator in her store, then great. That was a business expense on her part. And to ask the general public to pay for that during a time of crisis is ludicrous. How much did it cost to run that generator? $50? Sorry, she lost my business and respect after doing that.

07310 wrote:
Reading all the comments several things come though, she was very good at baking and knew what should go into her products not sure if she had a business plan. I think if she did she would have known that JC was not the demographic for her products. She might have done well on the upper east side of Manhattan or Princeton NJ. If she had a business plan she would have known at what price points for her products in JC would be acceptable and figured this into her cost of goods.
This seems to be the story of many of the small retailers in JC that open and close good intentions and no business sense.

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maybe in the heights, gv, and bl but us downtowners don't want those 99c, rainbow dream stores here.

Well you DTer?s have a funny way of showing your support for the DT businesses that ?you DO want here?. The ones that are slowly replacing those 99c dream stores that you mock. There are a lot of threads on JCList about how the businesses that are replacing those 99c dream stores are closing. (shame on you) Except for the ones that sell alcohol of course. (cheers can?t blame you)

Yes the 99 cent stores are a fixture in the Heights, Greenville, and Bergen- Lafayette, and WE support them every single day. Small 99c dream stores and smaller bodega?s are very convenient. Love walking a few steps in either direction being able to stop in for a 50c cup of coffee, a newspaper (yes the NY Post, not the NYT?s) and a $1.25 24 pack of knockoff Oreo cream filled black and white cookies. (on Friday?s I am right there for the 2 packages for 2 dollars deal)

Oh yeah and you can not beat the characters that run the places and even better the bodega groupies that hang out inside of the store ALL day. (I want that job) I only wish I could understand more Spanish, along with Vietnamese, Tagalog, Hindi and Arabic. Well maybe not because I would hate to know what the translation for ?big goofy white man? was. Funny I have been going to one store for years and I think the only thing the guy has ever said to me was his daily ?2 dollar 75 cents? line. Can?t beat that for customer service, the ultimate in not being a pushy salesman.

Tip: the trick to shopping in the countless JC bodega?s is NOT to look at the expiration dates when buying packages food like cookies and cakes. Also do a smell test on the red meat and chicken before purchasing. They don?t mind if you ask for a quick sniff, it is expected.


Hey all you rich newcommers in the 07310 zip code come on over to the other JC zip codes (during the daylight hours of course) and spend some of the cash that you are saving by renting in JC versus the Big Apple?we don?t bite. (no pun intended) We love to venture down to all of your DT joints that we read about on JCList so you guys should return the favor. A favor that you also owe us for wiping out retail in the rest of JC with your precious Newport Mall. Signed.. the 220K ?other? Jersey City peeps, your NEIGHBOR?s.

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fat-ass-bike wrote:
Poor business plan and no understanding of JC's demographics and socio-economic communities - JC will always be nothing more then a business haven for the 99c Dream and a fast food franchise mecca.

maybe in the heights, gv, and bl but us downtowners don't want those 99c, rainbow dream stores here.