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Just posting the JC website again incase you missed it on the first page of this thread....

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Hurricane Sandy Updates: Sandbags & Sand Available on Sunday; MUA Clearing Catch Basins; All Garbage & Recycling Suspended Until Further Notice; Vehicles Should Be Moved To Higher Ground Or Upper Levels of Indoor Parking Garages



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Yes. We had the same experience trying to get sandbags and had to abandon the effort because it was chaos. I for one am very disappointed with the lack of information coming out of City Hall. Bloomberg is shutting down the transit system and evacuating Battery Park City. People want to know what the plan is.

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The storm shifted back South which means a little less wind / rain, but more storm surge. NOAA just raised the expected surge in downtown J.C. and Hoboken to 9+ ft. Liberty State park region (southern part) is not at 11+ ft.

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A bitch about how they are handling the fill your own sandbag operation at Orchard St:

Went down there this A.M. to fill up a 1/2 dozen bags to help protect two apartments should the backyard drains get overwhelmed.

The Good: People were helping each other load bags. Some guys would help women on their own carry something that weighed 40+ lbs to their car.


The Bad: The JCIA / JCPD really needed to think through how people were supposed to load up their cars. They were positioned in a nice size parking lot with a separate entrance and exit lane. They could have with some cones, created a loading zone, allowing people to pull into the lot and queue up their vehicles.

Instead, you had people desperately trying to double park, or find parking within several blocks, then forced to carry their bags. Some people just gave up and left bags they spent a lot of time filling. Meanwhile, JCPD was busy trying to tell people to move their double parked cars as they were causing traffic on Montgomery to grid-lock.

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Mayor Bloomberg just announced mandatory evacuations of low lying Zone A residents in NYC including Battery Park City. He also closed all public schools on Monday in NYC. This is due to the anticipated 6 to 11-foot surge that is now expected.

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Cuomo just announced the MTA is suspending service for the MTA at 7pm tonight. This includes subways, buses, and metro north.

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If there is a catch basin on your street that is covered with debris or garbage, please be a good neighbor and assist the city by clearing that catch basin.

Report a clogged catch basin can call the MUA at (201) 432-1150.

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How is the stability of power in the Liberty Harbor neighborhood? Have only been here 1 month was just curious if anyone has had to deal with a similar storm?

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Cuomo is telling the MTA to prepare for a shutdown. The MTA wi ll probably announce one way or the other this afternoon.

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Thought I heard that Bloomberg would close down the subways as a precautionary.

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the latest model run shows the storm tracking a bit farther north and slowing down some, hitting South Jersey instead of Delaware. This appears to making the storm surge worse. 9 -12 feet is predicted for some areas around the NYC metro area.



http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graph ... ml/085338.shtml?gm_esurge

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Yes, in August 2011, I believe we had about 17-20 inches of rain in August alone, which was a shocking amount because it was what we typically see in a year.

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Irene dropped about 4 - 8 inches in the area. What made the flooding so bad was that we had a lot of rain that month to begin with.

The rivers were already swollen and the ground was already saturated.

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Bloomberg: No Evacuations Ordered in NYC Yet
BY MICHAEL HOWARD SAUL

Mayor Michael Bloomberg ordered no evacuations in New York City in anticipation of Hurricane Sandy as of Saturday night, but he warned of the storm's potential danger and said there could be preemptive power shutdowns in Lower Manhattan.

"We are not ordering any evacuations as of this time for any parts of the city," Mr. Bloomberg said at a news conference at the city's Office of Emergency Management in Brooklyn.

Last year, the mayor ordered the evacuation of 370,000 New Yorkers in low-lying areas as Tropical Storm Irene headed for the city. But this time, the mayor said, the evacuation ...

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NY scrambles to gird for Sandy, hopes to miss its wrath
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9:48 am | Sunday, October 28th, 2012

Andy Lugo talks on the phone after stocking up on supplies for branches of First Republic Bank in anticipation of disruption from storm elements of Hurricane Sandy in New York City. Some New Yorkers are preparing for possibly devastating effects from the approaching storm. AFP

NEW YORK ? New York City officials geared up Saturday for a possible strike from Hurricane Sandy but have not ordered any evacuations, holding out hope the metropolis might miss the worst of the storm.

?This is a dangerous storm,? Mayor Michael Bloomberg told reporters. ?But I think we?re going to be OK.?

Up and down the mid-Atlantic US coast, Americans were scrambling Saturday to prepare as best they could for a possible ?superstorm? as Sandy lumbered north after leaving at least 59 people dead in the Caribbean.

The so-called ?Frankenstorm? was expected to make landfall somewhere between Virginia and Massachusetts early Tuesday during the key final week of campaigning before US presidential elections on November 6.

And Sandy?s likely collision early next week with a seasonal ?nor?easter? weather system was predicted to super-charge the storm, dragging it to the west where it is expected to impact a slew of coastal US states.

?The trajectory says that the storm will hit a little south of us, (in the) Maryland and Delaware area,? Bloomberg said, adding that no evacuations had been ordered for now, unlike in August 2011 with the approach of Hurricane Irene.

Irene weakened to a Tropical Storm nearing the city, but only after authorities evacuated 370,000 people from their homes in southern Manhattan as a precaution.

?We are not ordering any evacuation at this time for any part of the city,? the mayor said. ?It will be less dangerous (than Irene) but make no mistake about it ? there will be a lot of water.?

?We are working to ensure that no matter how or when the storm arrives, the city will be well prepared and the citizens safe,? he stressed.

The storm was at category one hurricane strength at 0100 GMT, with maximum sustained winds of 75 miles (120 kilometers) per hour as it moved along the eastern US coast, the National Hurricane Center said.

Bloomberg said that he had spoken with Governor Andrew Cuomo ? who on Friday declared a state of emergency ? to coordinate state and local city responses to the storm. Shelters were being prepared in the event hurricane evacuations were needed, he added.

Grocery stores on Saturday were not jammed like last year when Irene churned nearby. However, with Sandy looming, drinking water flew off store shelves.

Among the anxious shoppers was 35-year-old Sandra Martinez, a housekeeper.

?Just in case, I?m buying basics like water, candles, batteries and some non-perishable food,? she said.
?I think the mayor?s office is doing the right thing by taking every precaution, because if the hurricane really hits here, it could be catastrophic,? she added.

The city?s Metropolitan Transit Authority said that it could start ordering bus and train service to shut down on Sunday evening. It usually suspends service if winds surpass 39 miles per hour (62 kilometers per hour).

National parks and popular tourist attractions like the Statue of Liberty ? which on Sunday is due to reopen its crown area after renovations ? could face some schedule changes in the light of the weather.

?We are watching the storm very carefully. As we go forward and we have more precise information, we will make the decision? on delays, said Statue of Liberty press spokeswoman Mindi Rambo.

Schools and social groups already started to call off and reschedule events set for Monday and Tuesday.

Hurricane Irene killed 47 people and did $10 billion in damage in the eastern United States ? hitting Vermont and upstate New York hard ? even though it largely grazed New York City defying earlier forecasts.

Prior to that the last time a hurricane hit New York City was Gloria, back in 1985

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Yes this is a big storm, but picking the worst paragraph out a 2 page article can make anything look bad. Here are some other choice paragraphs:

There?s reason to believe the models may be overdoing it. First off, what?s happening right now doesn?t have a clear precedence in the weather records. Our best available number-crunching simulations of the atmosphere simply weren?t designed for this scenario.

The Hydrometeorological Prediction Center ? the same folks at the National Weather Service that gave Sandy its ?Frankenstorm? name ? have had to manually adjust their official forecasts to tone down the exceptional scenarios that the weather models are currently showing.

Right now, the most reliable model tracks have clustered in a relatively tight range from Delaware to New York City. Counterintuitively, should the center of the storm make a direct strike on New York City, the city may actually be spared some of the more serious coastal impacts from the storm.

Should Sandy veer further north of its current track and make landfall right over the city, storm surge could be dramatically lessened, though the city could receive about double the amount of rainfall ? up to a foot or more.

For these reasons, if I were a resident of New York right now, I?d be rooting for a direct hit. If given a choice, I?d take 12 inches of rain over six feet of coastal flooding any day.



Will there be some flooding? Yes.
Will we lose power? Depends on where you live, but it a real possibility.
Are windows going to get blown out? No
Is this going to be like New Orleans after Katrina? No way.


how much rain did we get during irene?

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Smart reminders from NJ Poison Control Center about carbon monoxide poisoning & food spoilage risks;

Safety Tips to Prevent Carbon Monoxide Poisoning During Bad Weather:

1. Do not bring portable gas powered generator into the home or garage - Do not place them outside near any open windows.
2. Do not bring other gas powered equipment, propane stoves, or charcoal grills into the house or garage.
3. Never cook with charcoal indoors.
4. Check the batteries on your carbon monoxide detector. If you don?t have a detector, install one before the bad weather hits.
5. Keep your home well ventilated. If need be, keep a window slightly cracked to allow air flow.
6. Do not idle a car in a closed garage. Once you pull in, immediately turn off the engine.
7. Have a flash light and/or candles and matches at the ready.

Safety Tips to Prevent Food Spoilage During a Power Outage:

1. In preparing for a power outage, make the temperature colder than usual on both freezers and refrigerators to prolong the cold after a power outage.
2. During a power outage, keep the refrigerator and freezer doors closed and open them only when necessary.
3. Place a refrigerator thermometer in the center of the middle shelf and check the temperature. If it has risen to 45 degrees Fahrenheit or higher, discard any potentially spoiled foods. Such foods include meat, poultry, fish, dairy and egg products, soft cheese, cooked beans, cooked rice, cooked potatoes, cooked pasta, potato salad, custard and pudding.
4. When power is restored, allow time for the refrigerator to reach below 40 degrees Fahrenheit before restocking.
5. "When in doubt, throw it out!"

If you suspect Carbon Monoxide Poisoning, Take Immediate Action:
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3. Call the NJ Poison Experts, 800-222-1222, for immediate treatment advice. Do not waste time looking for information on the internet about carbon monoxide poisoning. Call us for fast, free and accurate information.


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GREAT WRITING DUDE BUT YOUR MOVING PICTURE IS WAY TOO DISTRACTING :)

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Yes this is a big storm, but picking the worst paragraph out a 2 page article can make anything look bad. Here are some other choice paragraphs:

There?s reason to believe the models may be overdoing it. First off, what?s happening right now doesn?t have a clear precedence in the weather records. Our best available number-crunching simulations of the atmosphere simply weren?t designed for this scenario.

The Hydrometeorological Prediction Center ? the same folks at the National Weather Service that gave Sandy its ?Frankenstorm? name ? have had to manually adjust their official forecasts to tone down the exceptional scenarios that the weather models are currently showing.

Right now, the most reliable model tracks have clustered in a relatively tight range from Delaware to New York City. Counterintuitively, should the center of the storm make a direct strike on New York City, the city may actually be spared some of the more serious coastal impacts from the storm.

Should Sandy veer further north of its current track and make landfall right over the city, storm surge could be dramatically lessened, though the city could receive about double the amount of rainfall ? up to a foot or more.

For these reasons, if I were a resident of New York right now, I?d be rooting for a direct hit. If given a choice, I?d take 12 inches of rain over six feet of coastal flooding any day.



Will there be some flooding? Yes.
Will we lose power? Depends on where you live, but it a real possibility.
Are windows going to get blown out? No
Is this going to be like New Orleans after Katrina? No way.

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It is looking very likely that we will all be ordered to evacuate.

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/new- ... 10-26?link=MW_latest_news

The latter scenario ? the one that now appears most likely ? would have many feet of ocean water funneled into New York Harbor over a period of up to 36 hours. Unlike Irene, which quickly transited New York City last year as a weakening tropical storm, Sandy may actually be in the process of strengthening when it makes landfall.

The result could prove incredibly damaging for coastal residents and critical infrastructure. Keep in mind that Irene was only inches away from flooding subway tunnels in Lower Manhattan. Storm-surge forecasts for this scenario haven?t been officially released yet, but six to 10 feet in the city is not out of the question in a worst-case scenario.

That result would put about 700,000 people?s homes underwater, according to a Climate Central interactive analysis. Add to that waves of 10 to 20 feet on ocean-facing shores, and an additional foot or so of tidal influence from the full moon, and we could be dealing with quite a mess on our hands.


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Your forgot some essentials.. Scotch, Vodka, and Beer.. don't go into Armageddon without them...


Too late. Healy & his 'pals' have already hit a couple of places to stock up. Wonder if the fire department will be on hand to pump his kid's bar out like last year.

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Is J.C. offering places you can fill up sandbags?


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Is J.C. offering places you can fill up sandbags?

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"Sump pump", not "subpump". Gahhhh.

Alert for everyone: A&P still has plenty of bread! Stock up on as much as you can before the storm comes. They still had a few rolls of duct tape too, but no water except for 2-3 gallons of distilled water. I hope the people that bought the rest don't drink it... the accelerated cell osmosis would probably kill you.

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Jersey City Home Depot out of car batteries, generators, most pumps.

I drove to eatontown and got a wet vac, backup utility pump (shallower than a subpump), rain gear, extra batteries, extension chords. Still need sand / clay / mulch bags.

It was worth the extra effort and cost for piece of mind.



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Jersey City Home Depot out of car batteries, generators, most pumps.

I drove to eatontown and got a wet vac, backup utility pump (shallower than a subpump), rain gear, extra batteries, extension chords. Still need sand / clay / mulch bags.

It was worth the extra effort and cost for piece of mind.

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Prepare; plan and stay informed..City Prepares For Hurricane Sandy; Mayor Urges Residents to Prepare As Well.

Mayor Jerramiah T. Healy, in conjunction the Office of Emergency Management, announced yesterday that city officials have been meeting and are closely monitoring Hurricane Sandy, which has the potential to impact the entire East Coast late Sunday into early next week?.. Read full text at: http://jerseycitynj.gov

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Do all you grocery shopping today, tomorrow at the latest Sunday there will be a shopping frenzy at all the grocery stores.


I still have a stash of bottled water, batteries and matches from Irene. I'm always amused at the panicked buying at supermarkets before a storm - people loading up their carts with perishables and other stuff that would be useless in a real emergency. Anyway, I don't foresee getting so marooned from this storm that I'd actually starve.

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when irene was headed in, someone posted a link with altitude info for downtown JC. much of it was around 6'. anyone have that link?

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If you install Googleearth you can see the elevation by just putting the mouse pointer over the area you are concerned about.

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Latest run of the ECMWF model (European computer model that so far seems to be the most accurate in tracking the storm) show the storm tracking farther West, hitting the Jersey Shore with sustained winds of 75+knots.

We have above normal water temps off the coast which is helping fuel the storm. In addition, the hurricane is forecast to merge with another system, like the Perfect Storm did in 1991.

While Irene was over-hyped, Sandy appears to be the real deal (for now anyway). To make matters worse, the storm will hit during high tide on Tuesday morning. If the storm hits just South of us, we will get the worse of the surge.

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Do all you grocery shopping today, tomorrow at the latest Sunday there will be a shopping frenzy at all the grocery stores.

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