heights wrote:
This is why we need luxury condo apartments with high rents and condo conversions. Having apartment buildings with one owner will deem it rent controlled with low rent and possibably section 8 families. If these hoodlums don't live in the area they caused havoc in then why were they lurking in that neighborhood ? That basketball court is an invite asking for trouble in the newly renovated Hamilton Park.

I came home to a handful of teens hanging out on my stoop, talking and smoking. They politely stood up and excused themselves as I passed. They weren't bothering anyone, as far as I could tell. Were they on their way to cause trouble? Who knows.

A cop car pulled up, and without getting out, a police woman shouted at the kids through a megaphone, telling them to move it along. Her tone was incredibly snotty and bullying as she repeated, "don't just sit there lookin' at me, MOVE it!"

The kids left, still in a group. This wasn't crowd-dispersal, it was crowd-relocation, and what had been, to my eyes, a group of kids just sitting and chatting, was now a gang of pissed-off disrespected teenagers on the move.

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corybraiterman wrote:
it only took two replies for this thread to get derailed into a political turdfest. sometimes you impress me, jclist.

What amazes me, given the turdish nature of the overwhelming majority of our politicians, is that the "fest" is limited to snitty comments on a message board. Hard to believe not even a year has passed and no one is asking "hey, when is Mariano Vega going to have his trial?" or "why was Mariano Vega's trial delayed twice and no reason was given" or "why the hell isn't Mariano Vega in jail?" Look like in the end you win

corybraiterman.

GrovePath wrote:
There is a curfew in place for good reason -- these thugs attacked a female jogger -- no one is talking about "polite" kids waiting on a bus after a school activity or a softball game. Get real!

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alanwright wrote:
This is terrible.

Until young, single women feel safe in this town, Jersey City is going to be wading in it's own...

I hope the girl is ok!

Safety is key! I agree -- police need to go after any large teen groups wandering around late -- we all need to call in these groups if we see them roaming -- but I must say that the police have always come if I call them.

leigh13 wrote:
There has been a group of teens around that age hanging out on the SW corner of 4th & Erie (across the street from Ralph's Tire Shop), usually playing handball or football. Could be related?

disportus wrote:
+1 @Alanwright

was the jogger okay?

alanwright wrote:
This is terrible.

Until young, single women feel safe in this town, Jersey City is going to be wading in it's own...

alanwright wrote:
This is terrible.

Until young, single women feel safe in this town, Jersey City is going to be wading in it's own shit. I've been saying this for years.

Every night we see these kids out being punks. Every night the park on Wayne Street is racous and disgusting.

I used to be sympathetic to the concerns of folks who oppose gentrification. IanMac might now that about me; I'm not sure.

Right about now, I simply do not give a damn. I feel like Travis Bickle: turn on the tap and wash away the scum. If you can't enforce the existing law and existing regulations, folks will adapt work-arounds to skirt the law and do selfish, self-serving, destructive behaviors. Unfortunately, police resources are few and they have made priorities. (Do we use CompStat in this town?)

Most of us have lived in this town for 4-10 years and we see few improvements beyond a few restaurants, sidewalks, planters, etc.

Individuals have pushed for change through business ventures. Developers for residences. Andit seems Steve Fulop bashes his head against a wall of inept colleagues and city structures.

But these kids walk the street every night and their antics are neve stopped. The city can't handle Wayne Street Park, so they remove benches. The city has no solution for dumping, so they remove public garbage cans. The city can't figure out how to get folks into town, so they build the Columbus Autobahn. The City couldn't install a traffic light on Grand/ Barrow for 6 months. The City decided to drag their feet on Hamilton Park until... A WEEK before the election and then ruin last summer and fall with their slow work. The City sees the Green Acres money to acquire the Embankment, but they ignore it for years. The City sees schools failing and school board ineptitude, and there's a new contract for the bozo in charge.

Mostly, I've recited downtown inconveniences and problems of the past several years. Ask the folks in the Heights, Mosquito Park, Westside, JSQ, Lafayette, Bergen Hill, Greenville... their problem are worse and the solutions are fewer.

Yet, mostly we see foot-dragging, corruption, and penny-ante misbehavior from the Hudson County Democrats and their public-employee minions.

This IS a political problem. Ian didn't make it so.

BTW: Webmaster, this is another reason this website shouldn't be exclusive with it's concern. Problems and solutions can cross the imaginary border between Wards.

corybraiterman wrote:
it only took two replies for this thread to get derailed into a political turdfest. sometimes you impress me, jclist.

ianmac47 wrote:
The police don't patrol downtown. Its safe. Crime is down. Healy said so last year. Crime is down. Crime is down. You are lying. There is no crime. Nothing to see here.