DirtMcGirt wrote:
Kill everything that might hurt you! YEAH!

wibbit wrote:

And DirtMcGirt, you are the classic example of the fanatic idiot who should not own a pitbull.

jcnight wrote:
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I_heart_JC wrote:
what I don't understand - and will never understand - is how, with the countless number of dogs languishing in shelters, anyone would want to have a potentially lethal dog in their home.

other dogs may bite more often, but when did you last see a headline about a 70-year-old woman losing half of her face to a chihuahua?

I know that most pit bulls are sweet, and that 99.5% of pit owners will never experience a problem with their pet. but when there is a problem, it's with a dog that has a devastating bite.

why on earth would you take that chance? is your pit bull really *that* much more awesome than the beagle in the cage right next to it?

On most occasions when these labeled bully breeds end up in a shelter the ?adoptive owner? will never find the true history of the dog and is adopting a potentially dangerous animal. I go back and forth with my thoughts on this situation and have often asked myself if I (an animal lover and advocate) would ever bring home a rescued pit bull terrier from the shelter. I have had the opportunity on numerous occasions but have always chosen not to because of other animals in my home and the fear of THE UNKNOWN, (history of the animal) and the potential that the rescued pit bull terrier could kill me and my pets. I am very grateful that there are people out there that do rescue the said animals, but also feel that any person that rescues a bully breed should be made to go thru a somewhat intense training and handling procedure before the animal is released to them. Of course that would require funding and etc? But it may make it a safer environment for both pet and owner.

I_heart_JC wrote:
what I don't understand - and will never understand - is how, with the countless number of dogs languishing in shelters, anyone would want to have a potentially lethal dog in their home.

other dogs may bite more often, but when did you last see a headline about a 70-year-old woman losing half of her face to a chihuahua?

I know that most pit bulls are sweet, and that 99.5% of pit owners will never experience a problem with their pet. but when there is a problem, it's with a dog that has a devastating bite.

why on earth would you take that chance? is your pit bull really *that* much more awesome than the beagle in the cage right next to it?

phDog wrote:

This is not only completely false hearsay but it (redirection) is inherently MORE common in other breeds. think about the purpose of the dogs i stated and the situation in which they were used.

ALL dogs fight, it is a natural behavior. our pets are attacked by poorly managed animals regardless of breed. is a poorly handled pit bull more likely to kill another dog as opposed to a poorly handled chihuahua? yes. but the owners of both have the same responsibility to control their animal.

I am in complete agreement with you that people are crazy for putting the life of a dog before that of a person and I also agree that the owners of these dogs should be held criminally responsible.

phDog wrote:
dogs that fight other dogs and dogs that bite people are rarely the same animal. for 150 years organized dog fights required 3 people (2 handlers and a ref) to be in close quarters to the 2 dogs fighting. a dog that was prone to biting a person was a liability that was not acceptable and therefor removed from the gene pool.

maybe something else will make thins interesting...

itsaurora wrote:
How's this getting interesting? Where's the indication that these dogs were trained to kill, fight, or attack?

70-year-old must have provoked pit bull attack, dogs' co-owner tells shelter official

By Ron Zeitlinger/The Jersey Journal
December 07, 2009, 3:15PM

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http://www.nj.com/bayonne/index.ssf/2 ... lter_manager_70-year.html

One of the owners of the two pit bulls shockingly is blaming the 70-year-old victim for the vicious attack she suffered Friday on a Bayonne street, a brutal assault that sent her to a hospital with critical injuries, says the manager of the shelter where the dogs are being kept.

The co-owner of the dogs, Jason Reid, showed up at the Associated Humane Society of Newark facility Saturday and told D.J. Infield, the manager and chief animal control officer, that Maria Zaldana, of Jersey City, must have provoked the dogs, Infield said today.

The two pit bulls, a male and female estimated at about 2- to 2-and-a-half years old, are being held under quarantine for 10 days at the Newark facility.

Infield said that unless the owners are charged with having potentially dangerous or vicious dogs, the pit bulls will be released to the owners. If the owners are charged, the dogs would remain in the custody of the animal shelter until the case is decided in the courts.

Infield said that Reid came to the shelter Saturday and said he owns the dogs along with Jessica Manno, his girlfriend. "He was adamant that the dogs must have been provoked" by the 70-year-old woman.

Reid did not return a phone call for comment.

Manno, who Bayonne police said was in Florida Friday at the time of the attack on Zaldano, was charged with having unleashed dogs. Police said the dogs were being watched by Manno's sister, Kristy Manno, at the time.

Zaldano was walking to Say It With Flowers on Broadway in Bayonne, where she works, when the dogs apparently escaped from a West 34th Street yard and mauled her at 9:11 in the morning Friday.

Zaldano suffered a partially torn scalp, numerous puncture wounds and the skin was torn from the left side of her face and her right knee and calf.

Infield said the dogs appear healthy, are licensed and are up-to-date with all their shots. He added that the dogs have not acted aggressively since they've been in the Newark shelter.

Infield, who said he has 25 years of experience in the field, said that it they were his dogs, he would have already had them put down.

"The dogs should be euthanized," Infield said. "They nearly killed that woman."

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70-year-old woman attacked by 2 pit bulls

Tim Fleischer
7online.com News Team

(Eyewitness News ABC) -- Bone chilling screams were coming from Maria Zaldana as a pair of pit bulls attacked the 70-year-old, repeatedly biting her face, legs and arms, ripping away pieces of skin and large sections of her scalp.

Maria was walking along West 34th Street Friday morning, and had almost made it to her job at a florist's, when just after 9, she spotted the dogs.

"She had seen two dogs on the porch, she's afraid of dogs, so she crossed the street, they started following her," explained Jessica Fajardo, Maria's friend.

Within seconds the dogs attacked. Maria desperately held onto a parked truck until someone came and got the pair.

The owner is out of town, and another relative was supposed to be watching the male and female dogs.

Somehow, the animals escaped from a fence that's normally kept locked.

Danielle Manno, Dog Owner's Cousin, said "Even though they are big they're the biggest babies, they hide if you yell and scream at them, they'll run and hide, they're scared of everything."

A friend believes Maria's screams may have further fueled the dogs, with the male thinking he was being attacked.

"They probably went up to her and tried to play with her. They jump on people but don't bite them," explained Desiree Marolda, a friend of the dog owner's.

Donna Marki, a friend and of Maria's for 30 years and one of her co-workers says she believes both dogs should be euthanized.

Marki also started a collection to help pay for her medical bills.

"Now without her here, part of the wheel, a spoke of the wheel is missing and it's hard for all of us," said Donna Marki of "Say it with Flowers".

Zaldana was rushed to the Jersey City Medical Center, and was later transferred to the University of Medicine and Dentistry of New Jersey in Newark. The pit bulls have been placed in quarantine at the Associated Humane Society in Newark. Police say Manno was issued two summonses for having unleashed dogs.

wibbit wrote:
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The co-owner of the dogs, Jason Reid, showed up at the Associated Humane Society of Newark facility Saturday and told D.J. Infield, the manager and chief animal control officer, that Maria Zaldana, of Jersey City, must have provoked the dogs, Infield said today.

Infield said that Reid came to the shelter Saturday and said he owns the dogs along with Jessica Manno, his girlfriend. "He was adamant that the dogs must have been provoked" by the 70-year-old woman.

yes people like that should get off with an unleashed dog citation and have the dogs returned to them, so they can let them loose in the yards again....

I cant believe so many of you are defending those dog owners, so WHAT if the dog was in the yards, they jumped out and mauled a woman half to death! That is the owner's fault, period. Add insult to injury, the owner then came and said it's the woman's fault for provoking the dogs, yes the 70 year old must really done a number on the dogs...

You dont think those people should be throw in jail, maybe not attempted murder but reckless endangerment ( or involuntary manslaughter if the poor woman dies)

Maybe all of you pitbull owners are nutcases...

The co-owner of the dogs, Jason Reid, showed up at the Associated Humane Society of Newark facility Saturday and told D.J. Infield, the manager and chief animal control officer, that Maria Zaldana, of Jersey City, must have provoked the dogs, Infield said today.

Infield said that Reid came to the shelter Saturday and said he owns the dogs along with Jessica Manno, his girlfriend. "He was adamant that the dogs must have been provoked" by the 70-year-old woman.

"They probably went up to her and tried to play with her. They jump on people but don't bite them," explained Desiree Marolda, a friend of the dog owner's.

itsaurora wrote:
I would hope that Bayonne animal control is going to follow up with a potentially dangerous dog hearing for the male dog, at the very least. It's unclear from the article whether the female was actually part of the attack.

jaah37 - dogs do not need to be leashed when they're in a backyard but the moment they're off the owner's property they can (and should) be cited.

wibbit wrote:
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GrovePath wrote:

Jessica Manno was given two summonses for having unleashed dogs, police said.

The issue of whether pitbull can be domestic pets with proper training/care is up for debate, and i do think euthanize all pitbull are unfair to responsible owners who take care of their dogs.

The real injustice here is the punishment of the dog owner, 2 summons for unleashed dog?!?! that's like giving a parking ticket for running over someone to close to death.

The woman should be brought up on attempted murder charges, throw in jail for a good part of her life, and never be allowed to own/care for another dog.

This isnt a case of accident, the woman purposely choose not to leash the pitbull and as a result almost killed the poor woman. Why should such disgusting irresponsible dog owners not be charged with a serious crime.

2 summons for unleashed dogs?! what a joke...

wibbit wrote:
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GrovePath wrote:

Jessica Manno was given two summonses for having unleashed dogs, police said.

The issue of whether pitbull can be domestic pets with proper training/care is up for debate, and i do think euthanize all pitbull are unfair to responsible owners who take care of their dogs.

The real injustice here is the punishment of the dog owner, 2 summons for unleashed dog?!?! that's like giving a parking ticket for running over someone to close to death.

The woman should be brought up on attempted murder charges, throw in jail for a good part of her life, and never be allowed to own/care for another dog.

This isnt a case of accident, the woman purposely choose not to leash the pitbull and as a result almost killed the poor woman. Why should such disgusting irresponsible dog owners not be charged with a serious crime.

2 summons for unleashed dogs?! what a joke...

GrovePath wrote:

Jessica Manno was given two summonses for having unleashed dogs, police said.