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I just wanted to take a quick second and post some additional information as I recognize there have been several concerns posted on this site.
While the fixmypath site is far from perfect, it was done on a very limited budget with very limited resources. Going forward, I will correct most of the issues that have been mentioned here and improve them before the next mass e-mail. What is clear though is that there are many issues with the PATH service and we are just scraping the surface. Regardless of whether you care about just Newport, or holiday service, or just weekends, or just Grove Street, or next summer?s Exchange Place, what we all do agree on is that if Jersey City is to continue progressing, the PATH service needs to be improved significantly on multiple fronts. Where we stand now is that there have been over 1000 e-mails sent via the fixmypath site and the Port Authority recognized the e-mails to the point that they drafted a response filled with twisted facts. It is a positive because we are early in the process but they thought it was important enough to respond? I have reached out to the mayor?s office to work together on setting the meeting with the Port Authority. The mayor's office has been responsive in willingness to work together on this and I am sure once the election passes it is something that we will be able to push forward more aggressively. I hope this provides some additional background on where we are with regards to the site and process. Please e-mail me if you have any additional question. Sincerely Steven Fulop
Posted on: 2008/11/3 2:25
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The operation of the PATH system is completely incompetent.
No need to go through fixmypath.com. Just email Michael Depallo (Director/General Manager of the PATH) directly and tell him so: mdepallo@panynj.gov
Posted on: 2008/11/2 22:30
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PATH works fine for me........maybe because I don't get on at Newport
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Posted on: 2008/11/2 7:23
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what about fixthefixmypathsite.com
Posted on: 2008/10/30 23:41
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Don't know where this fits in but I was trying to take the PATH from Pavonia Newport in to 33rd Street and it was so full I had to (like others) run down 2 cars to try and fit in AND I COULDN'T FIT IN! It's the first time I wasn't able to even squeeze in to one of the cars and had to wait for the next one. sigh.
Posted on: 2008/10/30 20:53
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Okay, I can't hold back any longer.
Quote: At first I thought it was a bit assanine, until I read (and this is assuming it's true) that they're going to use the PATH to carry building materials to the site from Jersey. That sounds like a pretty reasonable use of resources to me- fewer tractor trailers jamming up the tunnels & downtown, and delivery directly to the site. Using the PATH tracks to move building materials to the WTC construction site certainly seems like a worthwhile cause. That is, until you realize that the main reason for the PATH closure is to prioritize the 9/11 Memorial so that it can be completed in time for the tenth anniversary of the attacks. From the Star-Ledger: Increased costs, extended deadlines are unveiled for Ground Zero construction Quote: The roof of the hub's PATH station will also serve as the floor of the Memorial Plaza and will be built first -- a "construction solution" officials say will help assure the memorial is mainly completed by Sept. 11, 2011, the 10th anniversary of the attacks. (Some of the 500 trees in a cobblestone plaza may not be planted and a visitor's center may not be open, the report said). From the NY Times: New Ground Zero Timetable Fails to Convert Some Skeptics Quote: Even in the best case ... it will be necessary to suspend service on the No. 1 subway line below Chambers Street for six weeks in 2010, with some temporary shutdowns ?as necessary? in 2009. He also said PATH service to the World Trade Center station would be closed on most weekends starting next summer and stretching out three years, for 40 weekends out of each year. New Plan Sees 9/11 Memorial Open by 2011 Quote: Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg and the memorial foundation have vigorously insisted in recent weeks that the $610 million memorial must be open to the public by Sept. 11, 2011, a goal that the authority had until recently said was impossible. $610 MILLION??? Sure, sounds like a bargain when compared to the estimate of ONE BILLION DOLLARS for the original plans for the memorial. But considering that the entire WTC Transit Hub is budgeted at less than $3B, and the Freedom Tower itself is going to cost $3.1B, spending 20% of that on a memorial seems to me like a colossal waste of money. There, I said it. I know it's not a particularly popular stance to take, and I certainly intend no disrespect to the family and friends of anyone who was killed on 9/11. But spending that kind of money to commemorate the most egregious intelligence failure in US history? It's absolutely ridiculous. Couldn't a reasonable and respectful memorial be built for a tenth of that cost and without unnecessary disruption to the public transportation system? Funding for the memorial is reported to come from private donations and the Lower Manhattan Development Corporation (link). But the State of New York is still using at least $80 million of taxpayer money to build the pavilion, and guess were the LMDC gets most of their money? It comes from a grant given by our federal government (link). This isn't a battlefield or the site of a horrible natural disaster--it's an office building hosted on some of the most prime real estate in the entire country. What happened on 9/11/01 was a terrible, terrible tragedy and those were killed that day deserve to be remembered. But I assure you that nobody is going to forget what happened there, with or without a $610M memorial. Spending hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars on this project and displacing countless commuters to rush its completion for an arbitrary date is absolutely reprehensible. But unfortunately you won't hear that from anyone in power, as it would be political suicide for any politician who dared oppose it and risk being branded as "unsympathetic," or even more unfairly--"unpatriotic. " I'm continually amazed at how our country has managed to take a terrible situation and just continue to make it worse. From the Patriot Act to the fear-mongering that got GWB re-elected in 2004 to the false war in Iraq, the 9/11 attacks have represented success for Al-Qaeda beyond anything they could have ever anticipated. And they have us to thank for most of it. Don't you think Osama bin Laden would love to come and visit an overpriced memorial to his greatest victory against the USA? You bet. The WTC memorial is just one more page in the book I'd like to call The Terrorists Have Already Won.
Posted on: 2008/10/30 19:04
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There have been well thought out systematic efforts to advocate for improved PATH service and better approaches to temporary changes due to construction/work not only by individuals, but also -
the NJ Association of Railroad Passengers - http://www.nj-arp.org/ and Mia Scanga and http://www.talkingpolitics.net/ I would like to see our mayor and city council members take a holistic approach to the PATH system and its impact on the future of Jersey City - be it expansion or service (including addressing massive increases in ridership to come from "smart growth" policies and from development in Journal Square, Harrison and Newark) and ensure that the Jersey City traffic circulation study currently underway - "Jersey City Mobility 2050" not just addresses this, but also produces an action plan to bring to the Port Authority and Governors of NJ and NY. Quote:
Posted on: 2008/10/30 13:36
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I agree with the criticisms of the current fixmypath.org, but I wonder where the other politicians are in supporting any demands for better service. I've only been in JC for 8 years and I may have missed it, but this is the first time I remember any politician speak out directly against the PA and how they are running PATH.
I do wish Fulop would open up this site to the broader community, and let it be a catalyst for the more permanent advocacy group that is needed to balance the monolithic PATH and the PA. As to the details of the PATH excuses for the WTC disruptions, I'm sure there is some way they can alternate the freight trains and the passenger trains that will still provide for weekend travelers. The problem is that the heart of the PA is a for profit company, and they loose money when it comes to PATH operations. We have to make it in their economic interests to improve service, or we need to restructure or replace the PA.
Posted on: 2008/10/30 3:53
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CLicking on the "it gets worse" and then saying "no" to the Newport issues STILL sends a letter out complaining about the Newport station. (Which, of course, you only figure out after hitting send and get sent a copy of your letter.)
Posted on: 2008/10/29 19:42
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What we need is a Governor from Hudson or Essex County, not a Governor from Manhattan.
Posted on: 2008/10/29 19:31
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That was before they announced the weekend closure then I got this update email from the website
Dear Fellow PATH Commuter, YES, like many of you we are aware of the Port Authority's impending closure of the WTC Station on weekends for the next 3 years. We have updated our website and campaign to reflect our extreme dissatisfaction with this outrageous plan of the PA. If you are employed in Lower Manhattan and equally frustrated by this imposition on you, please revisit our website and participate in a new email campaign option to your State's Governor and the Deputy Director of the Port Authority. Click on the "IT GETS WORSE" flashing button on the home page for further information. Pleasant travels! www.fixmypath.com http://www.fixmypath.com
Posted on: 2008/10/29 19:19
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Here is the email from Councilman Fulop regarding the fixmypath.com website and the PATH in general.
Last month, I authored a formal resolution that was approved by the City Council and sent to the Port Authority of NY/NJ formally requesting fairness with regard to increased PATH service on the weekends and weeknights. Councilwoman Beth Mason in Hoboken will have a similar request on the Hoboken City Council agenda this month, as we seek the same similar resolutions from councils in Newark and Harrison. As we approach next year's governor's race in New Jersey, the time for action on an important Hudson County issue is now. I have attached a link for a website www.fixmypath.com which I am using as a tool to show our elected leaders the importance consistent PATH service on nights and weekends to Hudson County residents. Every signature added to the "solution" page at www.fixmypath.com will generate an e-mail to Governor Corzine, Governor Patterson, and the appropriate individuals at the Port Authority. Lets collectively advocate for Governor Corzine to get the Port Authority to give us the services we deserve. This is an issue about safety, about accessibility, and about your tax dollars. I believe that the collective voice carries the most weight and that if we can generate enough e-mails to our elected officials, we can achieve our goal. Right now, the Port Authority, the bi-state commission is undertaking a massive amount of infrastructure improvements as well as building a new state-of-the-art PATH station at the former World Trade Center site. What we in New Jersey are asking for is a fair and accommodating train schedule along with some relatively minor improvements to one of our more crowded stations. Please sign the petition at www.fixmypath.com and pass this along to your friends, your neighbors, and your community groups - Together we can make a difference. Sincerely, Steven Fulop Councilman Ward "E" Jersey City This message was sent by: Fulop for Jersey City, Ward "E", Jersey City, NJ 07302 Powered by iContact: http://freetrial.icontact.com
Posted on: 2008/10/29 19:13
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I agree. The fix my path website ignored my "no" about Newport as well. I couldn't care less about a second entryway at Newport. What riles me up is the Hoboken stop on the weekends. It didn't always used to be like this. The Hoboken stop from 33rd was made because of some "signal work" that ALWAYS seems to be going on. Just make it direct and the WTC thing is solved. I know it sucks having to take extra trains to get home, but if it were quicker, more people wouldn't mind.
The PA doesn't care. If they did, they would address these issues instead of dancing around them with BS answers.
Posted on: 2008/10/29 18:31
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The FixMyPATH is a big problem because it doesn't actually address the issues that rile people up the most. All this about a second entrance at Newport -- whoTF cares? If Newpsies are too stupid to walk to the end of the platform, let them crowd around the entrance.
Posted on: 2008/10/29 17:05
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The fix my PATH site was set-up by city councilman Fulop from Ward E (Downtown JC). If the site was set-up by the councilman, then why is there no attribution to that effect on the site? What's to hide? A more transparent, professional presentation and approach might actually encourage greater participation. All the best. Geoff
Posted on: 2008/10/29 16:14
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The fix my PATH site was set-up by city councilman Fulop from Ward E (Downtown JC). It was originally created before the PA announced it's intention to close service to WTC on weekends and was meant as an overall fix on the PATH with emphasis on the Newport entrance and more frequent trains on nights and weekends and to make direct trips skipping Hoboken.
I don't really get the second entrance argument but the rest is of great importance to most that use the PATH. As far as the PATH the very least they could do is to make sure the cars don't smell like a Bum that hasn't taken a shower in a month, got too drunk and pissed and puked all over himself. PA sucks! So does Michael Depallo and his lame response to the fix my PATH emails but it doesn't get any less classy than Governor Corzine in his offices lack of a response at all and he's the one that can veto the PA's plan. Sometimes I think everyone is right that NJ sucks, as a former NY'er I'm really trying to not to believe it.
Posted on: 2008/10/29 15:44
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The site is a scam. Same thing happened to me - I said I didn't agree with the need to invest in Newport, but the letter sent on my behalf still mentioned newport. I wanted to complain but only after the fact realized that the webiste has NO contact or identification information. Definately avoid this site, it's bad BAD news.
Posted on: 2008/10/29 14:19
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A +1 to Grovester and GWB.
God knows there's no short list of issues that need fixing with the Port Authority, including their management and operation of the PATH, among other things. While I'm no great fan of the Port Authority, the site comes across as an unfocused, unprofessional, and perhaps, irresponsible, diatribe against the Port Authority. The ostensible purpose appears not to be really aimed at producing a constructive result, but at giving the "appearance" of doing something constructive. Perhaps the most disconcerting element is that there isn't a single, scintilla of a reference as to the identify of the responsible parties who are gathering the signatures, nor is there a clear statement of purpose or position letter the signatures are supposedly being collected for. The PATH does need fixing, but this is hardly a transparent, responsible approach, which will drive a successful result. All the best. Geoff
Posted on: 2008/10/28 20:04
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the path has always been a problem and an even more problem now that there's many more condos up. not sure, but i remember there being plans for new routes/lines. i can be wrong, i no longer remember the source, but there would be direct transportation to and from newport and not other stops in jc. i think it was in the city's '10 year plan'. look it up in the library. haven't heard of any new word though, but i believe it's in the city's plans. i'm sure port authority realizes this, but nevertheless continue your letters and complaints.
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My problem with the Fix My PATH website is that it is clearly focused on Newport.
No offense, but I don't care about Newport. I don't commute through Newport. One of the questions that you're asked on the Fix My PATH website is Quote: * Do you believe the Newport PATH Station needs a second entrance to improve overcrowding? I answered "No." I guess I don't know/I don't care would have been a more fair and accurate answer, but I chose "no" because I was really at the website because I was concerned about WTC weekend service. Then it sent me an email to Governor Corzine and CCed me. This was included in the email: Quote: I am writing in regards to the infrequent and insufficient Port Authority PATH train service from Newport at off peak times. The station lengthening currently being funded at the Newark-WTC PATH line is unfair to those of us who really need service improvements here at the Newport station. I don't know who is behind the "Fix My PATH" website, or how to contact them, but it seems like maybe they're taking everyone's outrage about the WTC weekend service and using it to get station improvements at Newport. I just wish they wouldn't disguise their true intentions. If the website is really "Fix My Newport PATH Station" they should just say so.
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To be fair to you, it does appear they're splitting hairs just a little bit- Nobody said the station will be "closed", just that the train will be inaccessible to riders on weekends. At first I thought it was a bit assanine, until I read (and this is assuming it's true) that they're going to use the PATH to carry building materials to the site from Jersey. That sounds like a pretty reasonable use of resources to me- fewer tractor trailers jamming up the tunnels & downtown, and delivery directly to the site. Considering that ridership plummets to downtown on weekends, and considering there are many, many public transportation alternatives to a direct PATH ride to WTC, such as grabbing the subway @ 33rd....well, I suppose it's inconvenient, but that's what happens when an area is flattened & has to be rebuilt. GWB
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Yeah. I emailed the PATh service complaining about the service being shut down for three years between WTC and JC on the weekends. They wrote me back a response that had nothing to do with what I was asking. So you could waste your time trying to get a valid response, but I wouldn't get my hopes up if I were you.
Here is my letter: Is it true that weekend service will be suspended from the WTC station starting in 2009? If so, is there any talk about making the 33rd Street train NOT go through Hoboken all weekend long? I for one will go out of my way to go the WTC train for speedy service home on the weekends and it would be very inconvenient for all Jersey City residents to have to go through Hoboken in order to get home. And here is the response: Thank you for your feedback. There are no current plans to close the WTC station in 2009. However please be aware that there is major construction in the area and temporary closures may occur depending on the type of work that is being completed. Sincerely, PATH Customer Service Whats wrong with this picture?
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I'm so tired of people ranting in forums like this about how bd the PATH service is, where it all falls on no ones ears who can actually do something. I really suggest you log onto a site like FixMyPath.com and send an appropriate message to the PA with your concerns and even possibly some solutions. Get involved even if it's only from your keyboard.
http://www.fixmypath.com/ or better yet, contact the NY/NJ PA directly here: PATHCustomerService@panynj.gov
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