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Re: Bergen Lafayette: DEEJAY HERO SAVES LOST 2-YEAR OLD - naked, wandering along King Drive
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Dude, you clearly have a serious problem with reading comprehension, as Well as the proper and Appropriate Use of capital Letters, which from what I understand Is linked to SchizoPhrenia. Special bonus awesomeness for actually capitalizing "Crazy". It's like you're sending the board a message. Much like the ones I've been beaming into your head from the White House. Better go re-layer the tin foil hat! We've found a way to defeat your countermeasures!!!! GWB
Posted on: 2008/7/7 19:59
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Well, CK, you sure got that wrong - no surprise.
Different strokes for different folks. The DJ went to the cops. I might consider asking the crowd, maybe walking up the street. But that's just me (like Jules, I "walk the Earth). Course, "they" in the crowd might be the same as the 16 year old who lost track of her charge. If you're a parent, you either have or will lose track of your kid, at least once. No one has yet said how far she'd walked - a half a block? GWB is right on - the guy did what *should* have been done, maybe more. This is not news, shame on the JJ for trumpeting a sad affair, and shame on you who jump on the bandwagon with your "racialistisms!!" - Loser
Posted on: 2008/7/7 18:47
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GWB, You should be the posterchild for "its not my Yob"!!!! Its your train of thought that is driving this country down under a rock like the one that you live under . I agree, No one person should be responsible for someone else's child, but to convey a msg that People shouldn't get involved and help, now that plain Crazy and irresponsible ! Maybe thats the society thats Be-fitting of your life style , but sure as hell doesn't benifit anyone like that poor 2 yr old left naked and on a city street like some discarded animal ! CK
Posted on: 2008/7/7 18:14
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Hey Sally Stop Baiting,if you need to read deep into this,then you shouldn't comment ! CK
Posted on: 2008/7/7 18:05
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Thankfully, they're not. You can't legislate morality (obviously it's been tried). Foisting responsiblility for making sure someone's kids are safe on someone else would be a nightmare. There is a reason there is such a thing as "parental rights". There is also "parental responsibility". That's not to say nobody should look out for other's kids- quite the opposite. But I can't imagine if some reprobate decides to dump their kid at the mall alone and the kid gets itself hurt that somehow the shoppers should be liable for not doing something about it. What would be next- getting sued by the failure of a parent for not "co parenting" their kids? Because that's what you'd be asking them to do. The road to hell is paved with good intentions & headline grabbing politicians. Anyone suggesting some sort of liability for an act of ommission, at least in this sphere, hasn't thought it through. You would basically be legislated into being your brother's keeper. Now, you SHOULD be your brother's keeper...and the finder of lost children (que Jules from Pulp Fiction). But not because if you aren't you'll go to jail. You should do it because that is the path of the righteous man (OK I'll stop now). GWB
Posted on: 2008/7/7 17:41
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I am a teacher, and if I saw a naked 2 year old child about to cross the street, I would do something immediately. I would stop my car, grab the kid, and call 911. I think people should be liable for NOT doing anything.
Posted on: 2008/7/7 17:22
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Posted on: 2008/7/7 17:13
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True, CK did mention "the highest bidder".
Posted on: 2008/7/7 17:06
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Hmm well technically I think it would be more of an auction...
Posted on: 2008/7/7 16:42
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Really? What "kind of people" would that be, CK? Oh, and "sell off"? Really?
Posted on: 2008/7/7 16:33
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The kind of people that live there ! Jersey city should sell off that section to the highest bidder and cut it's loses ! CK
Posted on: 2008/7/7 16:27
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Agreed. I guess I'm trying to believe in the overall good of humanity. To Alb's point below yours, some people just aren't cut out for stepping up. We've all seen something "happening" and the looky loo's just sit there, paralyzed. Sometimes you gotta make a move. Reminds me of that news story a few weeks ago. Was it Boston? Some old man got drilled with a car- Car kept going. Whole thing was on tape. Guy just layed there as people walked by, glanced over, didn't do anything. Seemed like a long time, but in reality it was maybe a minute before some guy walked over to see what was going on. I just don't believe that the city is a cold place. I think there is somewhat of a jadedness. Let's be real- it seems like every time I return someone's smile, 2 seconds later it's "how you doin, rough weather, do you have a cigarette/my car broke down/can I have some money?" There's a ton of people always looking to see what they can scam. But I can tell you, every time someone legitimately needed help, with directions, with anything not $$$ related, with carrying things through the subway, I watch people fall all over themselves trying to be the first one to lend a hand. It's like a bunch of little kids just WAITING for an opportunity to be a boy/girlscout. So I go with Alb's assessment- Sometimes we're just clueless & we're not paying attention, and maybe our guard is up a little too high, but I fervently believe most people really just want to help. Proof? I bet you every person who read this thread thought, "I wish I had been there, I would have done the same thing" and you probably would have, if you had only seen it. Oh- and the guy's not a hero. He's a good man, & a good citizen. He simply did what we're SUPPOSED to do. He deserves credit for that, but the word "hero" gets thrown around a little too liberally. If what he did is considered exceptional, that's sad. In my book, it's under the heading of "the cost of admission for being a man/woman in this world" Vass
Posted on: 2008/7/7 16:03
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Probably people with slow reflexes who weren't quite sure if they understood what they were seeing. I once had to help look for a friend's misplaced son in that area. The copy at the MLK shopping center was TERRIBLE (just berated my friend for losing her son; didn't get on his radio for one second to try to find the kid), but the intimidating looking guys hanging out on the street tried to be helpful, and a church worker came marching up the street with the boy about a minute after I began walking along the street trying to find him.
Posted on: 2008/7/7 15:53
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Fair points, GWB, but there are many steps in between seeing the kid on the street and then taking the kid away in your car if you really risk some sort of bogus charge.
How people could watch her walk around and not try to pull her over to safety, just keep an eye on her, help her look for her family, call the cops...and instead just let her walk into a major intersection...is what's most frightening.
Posted on: 2008/7/7 15:27
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I agree it sucks, but I also think it would suck to put a naked child in your car as a stranger & get arrested for kidnapping if the "caregiver" decided that they didn't want to get arrested by DYFS.
"I didn't lose my child, that man stole my child!" That doesn't make it right- anyone should just sack up & do the right thing, but it makes hesitance to do anything understandable- For all they know the parent is 30 feet away, which would not be cool, but hardly abandonment. The way things are today, with either a huge influx in perverts or a huge increase in the number of perceived perverts, it's not a great idea to be around someone's kids without the parent being present. The old days of strangers being able to take your kid home if they got in trouble are long gone. I remember getting busted because my buddy was throwing rocks at a guy's duck (love ducks, still makes me sad to think about it) and the guy caught us, dragged us into his house so we could see how much he cared for his pets, and really taught us a lesson, seriously- Dressed us down good. Nowadays the angry kid could just claim that some sort of something "happened", and the way the police etc are so shit scared to let something like that go, a ridiculous accusation ends up screwing up someone's life. I have a buddy who is a highschool teacher & also works as the trainer for the district- He WILL NOT be in the training room with a female student without another teacher there. Sad world. GWB
Posted on: 2008/7/7 15:09
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That is the most depressing thing I have ever heard. What decent human being watches a naked toddler wander the streets and does nothing out of fear of LIABILITY? That's a sorry world to live in.
Posted on: 2008/7/7 14:05
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The kind that is careful about accountability, and liability thats who. No one wants to get involved. An inch is as good as a mile. The people there were as close to that toddler as people across the country.
Posted on: 2008/7/7 13:58
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"Everybody was standing there looking at her walking down the street," King said. really? jeez, what kind of people would just watch a toddler cross a street on her own?
Posted on: 2008/7/7 13:47
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DEEJAY HERO SAVES LOST 2-YEAR OLD
Monday, July 07, 2008 By CHARLES HACK JOURNAL STAFF WRITER A Good Samaritan picked up a naked, not yet 2-year-old tot wandering along King Drive in Jersey City by herself yesterday and turned her over to police, officials and the alert hero said yesterday. Harvey King, a deejay, said he was driving back home from a canceled gig at Liberty State Park at about 10:40 a.m. when he spotted the 21-month-old toddler about to cross the intersection at Claremont Avenue and Martin Luther King Jr. Drive - about a half block from the little girl's home. "Everybody was standing there looking at her walking down the street," King said. "I grabbed her just as she was stepping off the sidewalk and into the street. It scared me that something might happen to her." King then drove her to the South District police precinct, reports said. The child, he said, did not seem scared or upset, but was "very quiet." When he took her to the station "she did not want to let go of my shirt," he said. The child was taken to the Jersey City Medical Center where she was examined and given a clean bill of health, reports said. The girl was then put in the care of the state Division of Youth and Family Services, said city spokesman Stan H. Eason. Police later identified the girl's parents when the father showed up to the South District asking if anyone had spotted his little girl, Eason said. The mother of the girl told police she had left the child with her 16-year-old cousin while she went to do laundry, Eason said. But because the child was found unattended, DYFS now has to investigate the incident and make decisions about the child's custody and whether charges should be filed against the parents, Eason said. DYFS spokeswoman Mary Helen Cervantes declined to comment yesterday. When the girl's home was phoned, a man who answered quickly hung up. King was still in disbelief yesterday afternoon. "I could not understand why (a baby) should be walking down the street without any clothes on." King said. "It was by the grace of God that I was there at the right time."
Posted on: 2008/7/7 7:01
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