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Re: Former Utah Governor to Start Presidential Campaign in JC
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Why shouldn't we starve the beast? Almost every experience I have had with government entities has been an aggravation. Why not limit the misery we have to deal with?


If they actually starved the beast instead of being deficit spending queens, at least the philosophy would have to sit in it's own pile of shit. As is, they use "starve the beast" more to pretend that starving the tiny liberal programs they oppose will have any effect on the budget. This capitalizes on Americans ignorance of where their money actually goes.

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A poll by the Program for International Policy Attitudes at the University of Maryland showed that most Americans still imagine that 20 percent of the federal budget goes to foreign aid. In reality, less than 1 percent of the budget is for foreign aid, and only about one-third of that is development assistance.

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Any serious takers yet?


Takers of what?

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better than don't-tax and spend republicans, mir?

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Jersey City is facing a budget deficit of nearly $80 million, which the city hopes to reduce through the current round of furloughs and layoffs.
Go Democrats! Tax and spend. More salaries and benefits for public workers.

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Any serious takers yet?

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Zzzzzz.

ALL these Republicans are constantly trying the starve the beast philosophy.



Why shouldn't we starve the beast? Almost every experience I have had with government entities has been an aggravation. Why not limit the misery we have to deal with?

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No takers yet?

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Zzzzzz.

ALL these Republicans are constantly trying the starve the beast philosophy.

And NO trickle down, supply side economic theory DOES NOT work.

Any of my Republican friends on here, please show us the opposite. With facts please and not talking points. Because as Daniel Patrick Moynihan said so eloquently , everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but they are not entitled to their own facts.

So have at it.


http://petesview.com/starve-the-beast/
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/12 ... -of-Supply-Side-Economics

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Here we go with the Ronald Reagan obsession.It appears that every Republican that wants to be president has to be like him even though he's one of the reasons why we have a gigantic deficits and massive government debt spending when we can't afford it.

If I were President this is how I would fix our government;

End NAFTA and replace it with something more fair for the US
Increase taxes on the corporate world and on the rich
End child tax credits (stop encouraging poor people to have kids)
Cut the dependence on government services
Make welfare a way to get off poverty not to stay in it
Cut military spending, get out of Iraq, Europe, but remain in AF
Change government contract rules to be more fair to the taxpayer
Reduce benefits for federal employees
Encourage the return of manufacturing jobs to America
Arrest Mayor Healy for corruption

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Here is a link confirming that Liberty State Park will be used this tuesday by another republican on the Hunt to the presidency - pun intended.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/20/us/politics/20huntsman.html?hp

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Huntsman Will Announce at Liberty Park

By MICHAEL SHEAR and JIM RUTENBERG

2:58 p.m. | Updated Jon M. Huntsman Jr., the former governor of Utah, will officially declare his intentions to unseat his former boss from the White House next Tuesday in the shadow of the Statue of Liberty, where Ronald Reagan began his presidential campaign in 1980.

Mr. Huntsman made his announcement of an announcement official on Tuesday afternoon at the Thomson Reuters building in Times Square, where he was discussing China with Henry Kissinger and Sir Harold Evans, the newly-named Reuters editor at large.

?I intend to announce that I will be a candidate for the presidency a week from today,? Mr Huntsman told an audience of elite media and political figures, among them Leslie Stahl of ?60 Minutes? on CBS, the publisher Mort Zuckerman and the former Massachusetts Gov. William Weld.

Mr. Huntsman said his family was ?shocked and surprised? before returning to the discussion on China with Mr. Kissinger who is promoting his new book, ?On China.?

Mr. Huntsman, who served two years as President Obama?s ambassador to China, is set to make his campaign official at Liberty State Park in New Jersey.

Mr. Huntsman will then kick off a campaign swing through New Hampshire, South Carolina, Florida, Utah and Nevada ? noticeably skipping Iowa, where caucus voting begins next year.

Choosing New Jersey for the announcement, and using the Statue of Liberty as a backdrop, is intended to conjure up the memory of Mr. Reagan?s legacy as Mr. Huntsman seeks the nomination.

Mr. Huntsman joins a race well under way, as was made clear by Monday night?s debate in New Hampshire. But his advisers argue that there remains plenty of time for him to establish himself as a serious contender.

Mr. Huntsman has already said he will not compete in Iowa, saying his stand opposing ethanol subsidies would make victory there difficult. The decision could clear the way for him to focus more intensely on knocking off Mitt Romney, the former governor of Massachusetts, in New Hampshire.

But it could also take Mr. Huntsman out of the political narrative toward the end of 2011 as the other candidates compete in the caucuses.

Pressed by Mr. Evans about how his experience in China would help his candidacy, Mr. Huntsman said the nation would be in a better position to deal with China when it strengthens its own economy. He said the United States has ?a very weak economic core? and is ?less able to project the goodness and the power and the might of the United States.?

Because of that, he said, the nation was diminished ?at the negotiating table, and everybody knows that.?

In a brief discussion with reporters after the event, Mr. Huntsman said his final decision came after discussions with his family and his recent trip to New Hampshire, where he proved to himself he could handle ?that retail side.?

Acknowledging his status as a relatively unknown candidate, he said that for now ?we?re a margin of of error candidate? and ?a statistical anamoly.? But he said he was comfortable as such if the pace was already a bit intense: ?I?m tired,? he said, ?I can tell you that much.?

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/20 ... announce-at-liberty-park/

Posted on: 2011/6/14 19:44
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