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Re: Jersey City biggest recipient in state of surplus DoD assault rifles
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What surplus military gear landed with your police department? (Interactive)

By Carla Astudillo | NJ Advance Media for NJ.com
December 01, 2014 at 7:11 PM

According to the data, the federal government gave 865 M-16 and M-14 assault rifles to 80 New Jersey law enforcement agencies, including New Jersey?s Division of Fish and Wildlife.

Jersey City received 170 M-16s and M-14s? the most out of any New Jersey police agency. However, many suburban towns with very little violent crime, like West Milford and Mt. Olive Township, also obtained assault rifles.

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I have no idea why this is a big deal when we have a gun culture going back to the revolutionary war.
One can only dream that one day we will have a change in attitude !


Wrong FAB. The question has to be - wtf is JCPD doing with this hardware?

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What surplus military gear landed with your police department? (Interactive)

By Carla Astudillo | NJ Advance Media for NJ.com
December 01, 2014 at 7:11 PM

According to the data, the federal government gave 865 M-16 and M-14 assault rifles to 80 New Jersey law enforcement agencies, including New Jersey?s Division of Fish and Wildlife.

Jersey City received 170 M-16s and M-14s? the most out of any New Jersey police agency. However, many suburban towns with very little violent crime, like West Milford and Mt. Olive Township, also obtained assault rifles.

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http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2014 ... partment_interactive.html


I have no idea why this is a big deal when we have a gun culture going back to the revolutionary war.
One can only dream that one day we will have a change in attitude !

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What surplus military gear landed with your police department? (Interactive)

By Carla Astudillo | NJ Advance Media for NJ.com
December 01, 2014 at 7:11 PM

According to the data, the federal government gave 865 M-16 and M-14 assault rifles to 80 New Jersey law enforcement agencies, including New Jersey?s Division of Fish and Wildlife.

Jersey City received 170 M-16s and M-14s? the most out of any New Jersey police agency. However, many suburban towns with very little violent crime, like West Milford and Mt. Olive Township, also obtained assault rifles.

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http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2014 ... partment_interactive.html

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Short memory for some! (note to change some semi auto weapons to automatic weapons is very easy - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nhv4hMGdQ_g)


That's why I clarified with "off the shelf". I wouldn't recommend making any mods without the proper tax stamps.

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Short memory for some! (note to change some semi auto weapons to automatic weapons is very easy - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nhv4hMGdQ_g)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsOWSDtxERU

Report from 2009 makes for interest reading, even if you just look at the graphs !

http://oag.ca.gov/sites/all/files/agw ... ns/Firearms_Report_09.pdf

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This is unsettling. There is no reason for civilian law enforcement to have automatic weaponry. They're not going to have access to the proper training, and I can't think of a legitimate LE action that's going to require the use of suppressing fire.

As an aside, I bought an M1 from the CMP about a decade ago - it is (was?) a great program supporting the civilian militia. The Garand was ground-breaking at the time and remains a fantastic piece of machinery to this day. To clarify, however, an M1 Garand is a semi-automatic rifle, and doesn't have the off the shelf ability to be used as an automatic weapon.

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Sounds like the Feds are getting rid of old inventory. Per the Star Ledger article, a lot of the rifles are old M-14's, which were pretty much phased out during the 60's (with some exceptions).

There used to be a program where you could buy old M-1's from the government. I was too poor at the time to take advantage of it though.

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Jersey City biggest recipient in state of surplus DoD assault rifles

By The Jersey Journal
November 30, 2014 at 11:46 AM

Of the 894 automatic rifles municipalities in New Jersey received through a U.S. Department of Defense program, Jersey City received 170 of them -- by far the most of any town in the state and nearly 20 percent of the total amount distributed to Garden State towns, according to today's Star-Ledger.

The second runner-up, Mount Olive Township, received a total of only 26 M14 and M16 assault rifles.

The only other Hudson town to crack the top 15 list was West New York, which received 24 of the rifles, The Ledger reports.

As part of the program, The Pentagon gives away surplus military gear. Until now, the state Attorney General's Office had refused to disclose which police departments received the battlefield rifles, combat knives, or armored vehicles, city security concerns.

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http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/20 ... fense_assault_rifles.html

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