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Responsible bike riders? I wished there was a video camera several years ago, near city hall when a bike rider nearly ran over a pedestrian and hit a car. I am hoping more cameras are installed around JC so we can watch these responsible riders! They need insurance.
Posted on: 2012/6/15 17:59
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And walkers alike Yvonne. We have to learn share as we did when we were children. With the Complete Streets program in J.C., all new and revamped streets in Jersey City are to have a multi use system in place. Perhaps restaurant delivery people on bikes should have insurance as well. Sure lets have bicycle insurance, bike lanes, registrations it will give the bike riding community a leg to stand on in case of litigious situations that may arise so let?s see who ends up being at fault perhaps that is what the non-biking public is afraid of. As far as accidents are, concerned bike lanes create a responsible riding environment for all that share the road, without it, cyclists may run amuck. The country is becoming more bicycle friendly should Jersey City continue to live in the Stone Age or finally get on the map of progress ?
Posted on: 2012/6/15 17:39
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Get on your bikes and ride !
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My earlier post on this subject, I mentioned how many people compared NYC bike's lanes and suggested JC should have similar. I stated JC have narrower streets, more developments are being built near these bike lanes (Boys Club), and a study was not done which should have included a car census. This census should also included traffic from the turnpike that bypass 14C, travel our streets to arrive at the tunnel. I totally believe more bike lanes will lead to accidents for bikers as well as pedestrians. There is an elections next year, so this bike lane really is a political subject. It is not done on the safety of bikers, pedestrians, or drivers in mind. JC is not NYC with mass transit and I see more accidents. Those painted lines down Grove Street give a false sense of security for bikers. I really hope the police department save the stats on these future bike/car accidents and not have them listed as motor vehicles accidents. More accidents in JC means higher car insurance. Maybe it is about time, bikers who are involved in accidents start paying insurance.
Posted on: 2012/6/15 17:27
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oh sweet I just realized that since I won't be getting exercise on a daily basis, my health can suffer and my health insurance rates will go up as well! AND I can drive up gas prices by putting a bit more demand out there. This is the best you guys.
Posted on: 2012/6/15 4:07
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Better to just drive my car so I can pay for gas and cause traffic and struggle to find parking. Nothing I love more than that. Ooh I bet my insurance company would raise my premiums too!
Posted on: 2012/6/15 4:02
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Oh, stop. Nowhere did anyone say "ban cars" or "force arthritic 80 year olds to ride bikes." I don't know where you're getting that from. Having bike lanes so people can safely ride their bikes isn't preventing anyone from driving. I realize cars are a useful invention. If you don't like bike lanes just don't use them. I really don't see the problem here. A bike lane network would just be another viable transit option in addition to other transit options.
Posted on: 2012/6/15 3:46
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If you are arguing we should eliminate old people and people with children, you might get more support than you expect.
Posted on: 2012/6/14 18:54
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I don't know what makes me angrier... cars not realizing they can KILL me while I am on my bike, or other people on bikes not realizing cars can KILL them.
Posted on: 2012/6/14 18:53
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Bikes can be a viable option for transportation if people stop having children and people do not grow old developing arthritic limbs.
Posted on: 2012/6/14 18:33
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I think the discussion about bike lanes is about changing the infrastructure and creating livable streets. Yes, as it is now, much of jc is lacking in public transportation and it's not safe to bike because there are no bike lanes. It would be safe to do all the things you say by bike if, over time, that changes. The only reason you need a car is because there is only infrastructure for cars. The first step to changing this is by putting in some bike lanes. If everyone just says "it's not going to work so let's not try it" then nothing changes.
Posted on: 2012/6/14 3:38
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Why do people compare JC with NYC? You don't need a car in NY with subways, buses, and cabs. I know families with 3 and 4 cars in JC because jobs are only available with a car. I cannot imagine parents with children under five during winter traveling on bikes, especially with sick children. Bikes will not replace cars. There are safety guidelines for children in cars, none exists for parents transporting children with bikes because it would be dangerous, especially infants.
Posted on: 2012/6/14 1:03
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Nobody said "everyone should stop driving forever." Also, this is a city. Look across the river. Only 46 percent of people living in NYC own cars. The beauty of living in a city is that things are close by and accessible so you don't need to be doing Costco-style shopping.
Posted on: 2012/6/14 0:11
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Before the city adopted bike lanes, there should have been a census of bikes, cars or any type of vehicle that uses the streets. And that census should have also included cars that exit the turnipke either going to NYC, to advoid 14C or the waterfront. The problem of traffic becomes harder when streets are closed off for parades or street repairs. Yes, I do agree there are too many cars but comments that people should bike are not realistic. Do you bike your children to school, or buy 20 bags of grocery with a bike? Suppose you are disable, or elderly or suffer for arthritis or have any number of medical conditions that requires a car for transportation, are you still suppose to use a bike? Using a bike in the rain or snow or biking over a pot hole has to be dangerous. The city adopted the bike lanes so it could claim it is a green city. Only time will tell how many accidents will happen between bikes, cars, and the walking public.
Posted on: 2012/6/13 18:43
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Bike lanes encourage more people to bike. There is a safety in numbers effect.
Posted on: 2012/6/13 16:40
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Bike friendly cities are the future, just look over at what NYC is doing. JC will be very slow to adopt this mentality if they do at all. Ending the right on red is just one of many things that need to happen to make this area safe for bikes/pedestrians. Not holding my breath...
Posted on: 2012/6/13 16:16
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Exactly. I'm just as worried about walking and getting hit by some asshat running a red light.
Posted on: 2012/6/13 14:05
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I will continue to ride my bike around town but I have no faith that the bike lanes will keep me any safer, or keep drivers from cutting me off.
Posted on: 2012/6/13 13:47
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"I know how to solve this congestion problem, more auto-centric infrastructure!" NYC is getting a huge bike share this summer. If jersey city is to have a successful future it needs to get with the program. Future generations are driving less and opting for urban environments when looking for places to live.
Posted on: 2012/6/12 23:25
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Jersey City has too much traffic to safely have bike lanes. Just because JC gov't has created bike lanes doesn't mean it will be used well. Let's not forget, there will be more traffic on Grove St after the Boy's Club is converted to 468 condos! The city just amended their tax abatement, so look for more problems between cars and bikes. Unlike NYC which has wide streets, our streets are narrow.
Posted on: 2012/6/12 22:40
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Give me a break, please. I'm tired of all this Obama socialistic green energy regulation stuff. Why impose more regulations on businesses. more rules is the wrong way to go, especially when the economy is so weak
Posted on: 2012/6/12 21:44
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I have to agree that in a city where horrible driving habits rule, the bike lanes will give a false sense of security to cyclists. In my area of town, people are always double parked, even on streets like Garfield and Danforth that are extremely busy. And i dont even recall how many times i have been passed on Garfied by the Bayview Cemetary, sometimes on the left and sometimes on the right.
until these drivers get the word that violations are serious and expensive I think bike lanes would just be seen as another passing lane.
Posted on: 2012/6/12 20:13
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Could any one share their opinons on the bike lane and it's future existance in Jersey City ? Also curious if anyone heard the City of Jersey City's impression of the bike lane and it will further the plan to have more ??
Posted on: 2012/6/12 17:44
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Hopefully the bike lanes stay and get expanded to the other main thoroughfares in town...Newark ave, Jersey Ave, Columbus ave, Montgomery, Grand, Marin and Washington.
Yeah, prob asking a lot but it would be nice.
Posted on: 2012/6/12 16:42
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As far as weaving in and out of double parked cars there is a risk of the bike side swiping the doors or mirrors of these illegal double parked cars which could result in dents, dings, and scrapes of the pretty painted surfaces of these horseless carriages. Not to mention the bikes themselves.
Posted on: 2012/5/22 13:19
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Every time I ride down Grove I encounter 3 to 5 cars parked in the bike lane for that short stretch. I decided to just take the center of the lane because it's safer than merging in and out of the bike lane constantly to avoid double parked cars. I don't understand it--can't people just find a parking space and then walk to their desired location? You don't have to park right in front of the door everywhere you go.
Posted on: 2012/5/21 22:59
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Good luck getting the JCPD to enforce keeping cars out of the bike lane. I rode the bike lane section of Grove St on Saturday and stopped to take this photo:
 The police cruiser was just sitting there and not on any obvious business. Worse, there was plenty of room for the car to be parked closer to the curb and out of the bike lane--but the cop didn't seem to care. Nor did the two other drivers who had their cars double-parked blocking the bike lane between Columbus and Montgomery, making a total of 3 cars in the bike lane on that short stretch of road. And that was for the north side of the street only!
Posted on: 2012/5/21 19:11
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Mainly just for the month of May during Green month the city decided to put the bike lane in front of city hall so they can monitor the lane. Who is taking tabs on this bike lane's usage ? The mayor states the bicycle lanes are temporary but will gage how well the lanes work out and if successful may stay. Maybe at that point the city can go from parade paint to a more permanent stripping. Many cyclists? ears have heard that the Mayor thinks bike lanes are dangerous. I wish someone could debate him on that. Why is he so against them but in favor of automobiles and the traffic that goes with them?
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Fast or slow, sidewalks are not for cycling. Period. (They might be called "sidecycles" if they were....
 ) http://www.state.nj.us/transportation ... e/pdf/bicyclingmanual.pdfIf you feel unsafe in the road and need to get onto the sidewalk, get off your bike and walk it. Granted, there aren't many places worse to ride than Hudson County (Hoboken excepted) but pedestrians shouldn't have the risk shifted onto them because you don't feel safe in the road.
Posted on: 2012/5/21 16:18
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I'm on board with everything you've said but this. Granted, I wasn't with the ride so I don't know the full extent, but taking a lane on a bicycle is more for the cyclist's safety than anything. I frequently ride in the lane to prevent doors from flying open on the right, to prevent cars from sandwiching me on the left and for options if anything else pops up. If we are riding in traffic and not in a bicycle lane, than we have to be apart of traffic and not some sort of side show. When turning, I use lanes marked for cars. When riding, I use lanes marked for cars. It's unfortunate that it blocks other cars, but it's a shared road. Maybe your riders over-did it, but there's some truth to their theory.
Posted on: 2012/5/21 0:41
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As a cyclist, it feels safest to mix and match. Sometimes sidewalk is safer, sometimes the road, and yes sometimes the wrong way "feels" better. This isn't the law, but sadly, with our sad state of transportation culture, it is the reality.
Obviously there are many yahoo/low-skill/entitled cyclists among us, there is no doubt. I did a group ride with some "serious" cyclists (messenger types), and I cannot believe how center of street they stayed and how pissed off drivers were. I told them that was not cool at all, how would they like it if pedestrians blocked them? I stay as right as possible, but then I've had doors opened on me. How many drivers check their mirror for cyclists? In Holland, they teach you to open the driver's door with your RIGHT hand so you turn your head automatically. I am a pedestrian, a driver and a motorcyclist. Can I cycle the way I motorcycle through town, obeying the letter of the law? No, I would be killed. I have to duck and weave to "make space", because cars don't give me any (and some peds don't either). If you want to see transportation done right, go to Germany. I've spent some time in Cologne, and it was many kinds of awesome. Cars drive slow in town and fast on the highway. Public transport works. Bike lanes are not beside the road, they were between parked cars and the sidewalk. Pedestrians stay off the bike sidewalks. People who cycle know how to ride a bike (sort of like they knew how to drive). There is a whole culture around transportation safety, efficiency and fun. Some people are bothered by cyclists on streets and try to run us down, some of those are the same people who are bothered by the occasional cyclist on the sidewalk. Even the recently started bike lane on Grove (that really needs to be extended to a whole lot of other streets) has double-parked cars on it. Where do you want us to go??? /END RANT In summary, bike lanes are a GOOD thing. The more the better. City streets need to be narrowed in any case to slow traffic down (also a GOOD thing and I personally like fast cars in safe circumstances). I just hope we make the transition with the most respect for each other, whichever role we are in, and with the least amount of accidents.
Posted on: 2012/5/21 0:30
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