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Re: JC Crime up HUGELY: 46% since Q1 2007! AKA - Stop using stats to fool us during elections
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statistics are great, but they're often misleading. it doesn't seem so horrible to me, that crime stats stayed the same for a particular month, year to year. but If they went way up, or down, that could be something interesting.


These are horrible to me when the City uses crime stats to manipulate elections. See the thread back in Q1 when they were looking for votes. Then tell me this was an improvement year-on-year and not just a cynical tactic to win votes.

http://jclist.com/modules/newbb/viewt ... e=&topic_id=9305&forum=10


well i do agree with you that if someone is going to tout an issue as a pillar of their campaign, that they had better consistantly perform in that area, and make it their priority outside of the campaign.

But, from an overall point of view, I still don't think its so bad from one year to the next that crime stats stayed the same for a particular month.

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statistics are great, but they're often misleading. it doesn't seem so horrible to me, that crime stats stayed the same for a particular month, year to year. but If they went way up, or down, that could be something interesting.


These are horrible to me when the City uses crime stats to manipulate elections. See the thread back in Q1 when they were looking for votes. Then tell me this was an improvement year-on-year and not just a cynical tactic to win votes.

http://jclist.com/modules/newbb/viewt ... e=&topic_id=9305&forum=10

Posted on: 2007/8/28 4:51
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statistics are great, but they're often misleading. it doesn't seem so horrible to me, that crime stats stayed the same for a particular month, year to year. but If they went way up, or down, that could be something interesting.

Posted on: 2007/8/27 13:16
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Re: JC Crime up HUGELY: 46% since Q1 2007! AKA - Stop using stats to fool us during elections
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Long term residents are the exact people keeping these fools in office.

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Long term residents have know the game played when reporting crime and crap being sold to us by the cops and politicians about crime.
I'm just waiting for all our new residents to get a grip with the on-going spin and vote this wanker administration out.

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Re: JC Crime up HUGELY: 46% since Q1 2007! AKA - Stop using stats to fool us during elections
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Look at the stats for Jun and Jul 2007 versus 2006. Very little improvement, if any, year on year. Perhaps violent crime is down marginally. Personal and property crime up. If there was any real improvement, it should be obvious. According to the stats, there is ZERO improvement. Can we take back all those kudos we gave to the City back in March and April? Can we take back our votes? No. But we can be damn sure we can hold the city to account now and try to make sure they don't manipulate the numbers during the next election.

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Uh, crime spikes EVERY July.

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Ok - the politicians made a big stink about reduced crime stats last elections in Q1 2007.

According to JC stats, crime is HUGELY up. 46% up March versus Jul 2007 and ZERO improvement since Jul 2006.

The guys in power got a lot of credibility at the start of the year for reducing crime, but in reality you just have fooled us - just electioneering IMO. Fool us once, shame on us...

http://www.njjcpd.org/

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