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Re: the most profound movie that will blow your mind
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Ok Freedom.

Go to the website below and read up on the responses given by people who actually know what they're talking about. If you can read, and understand the physics involved. Then good. If not, follow the advice of those physicists to the idiot that continued to peddle his trash.


http://physicsforums.com/archive/index.php/t-82026.html

Then go google causes of the trade center collapses, and read the official reports.

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Can you go to the sites linked by Freedom and read the postings on Activism and how to get involved. They use "innocent questions" on sites and blogs like JCLIST, accept no answers but their own, and use it to peddle their highly organised and activist propaganda.

Then can you ban this dick if he continues to use this forum to peddle his conspiracy theories. The only conspiracy I see is the one funded by these "Truth about 9/11" nutters. And I'm sure the Patriot act will take care of their funding very soon.

Posted on: 2007/12/23 2:33
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Re: Councilwoman Flood & her son flee Fox5's "Shame on you" TV reporter Arnold Diaz
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Don't forget Bill the "no unleashed dogs in segregated dog parks cause they peed on my sports fields", helped Willie escape. Guess they kinda share the same name.

Bill ...I suppose Arnold Diaz peed on your sports field too?

Posted on: 2007/12/22 7:15
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Re: the most profound movie that will blow your mind
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Profound? Yes.

Profoundly stupid in thinking anyone could believe these tortured lines of reasoning
Profoundly offensive to those of us who lost friends/family/co-workers during 9/11
Profoundly boring to believe that we care about you linking some of these ancient links on conspiracy
Profoundly idiotic to miss the point that the US public cares more now about the US reaction to 9/11 and not the original act itself.
And overall profoundly insulting to our intelligence.

I have no ties to the US Government. I am not a Jew. I am not involved in any kind of conspiracy. I saw what happened first-hand during 9/11. I lost friends and co-workers.

And you, Freedom, are either demented, a dick or have your own agenda. Personally, I hope you're just a dick.

Posted on: 2007/12/22 5:50
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Re: Professional Makeup
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Posted on: 2007/12/22 4:51
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Re: the most profound movie that will blow your mind
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Quote:

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\"There were no explosions after the planes hit.\"


I started filming from the waterfront after the planes hit
using a broadcast quality camara zoomed in on the towers.
When i got home and watched it on my big screen tv, i
was shocked to see people jumping /falling from the building
and at one point there is a huge explosion inside that blows out windows, a big fireball comes out , and then a body comes flying out from the force. this is long after both
planes hit. I remember thinking to myself wtf was in those
offices that would explode like that.

And for the record its Larry Silverstein not Silverman.
Check out what Silverstein has to say about building #7


http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/ ... 106silversteinanswers.htm



"Wtf was in those offices that would explode like that?"

Err...how about the almost full fuel tank from the airplane, the fires creeping through the building, the build-up of explosive gases, posibility of backdrafts.... duh! Why is that a less reasonable explanation that the government rigged the building and detonated it minutes after the planes hit?

And the Silverdude article? "This puff of smoke", the phrase "pull it" and the statement from some dude in the fire dept all add up to a grand conspiracy to blow up an empty building???? Soooo...how does that relate to the other grand conspiracy to blow up WTCs 1&2 with people in it...why not just detonate it at the same time as the others for maximum impact?

I believe that the fire dept didnt have a clue where all their people were at that time ...half the fire department were killed by that time buried under a mountain of rubble and the other half were blinded and suffocating in the clouds of debris, plus they were working with makeshift communications. And some fire dept guy can say with conviction that noone from the fire dept were in WTC-7?

Go have a look at the hollow shell of Deutche bank building which was at a similar distance to the South Tower as WTC-7 was to the North tower. If WTC-7 hadn't fallen, that's what it might have looked like, and they still might be finding human remains from the site as they do from the Deutche building.

Frankly I find your posts extremely offensive and insulting to those of us who lost co-workers and friends in the 9/11 attacks. Go peddle your propaganda and distorted lies elsewhere please.

Posted on: 2007/12/22 4:27
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Re: Revisiting Violent Past on Eve of New Jersey Death Penalty Vote
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Info from
http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0777460.html

It's great to see the US holding the line on this along with the great defenders of freedom and democracy that include: China, Iraq, Iran, Pakistan and Sudan.
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The Death Penalty Worldwide
According to Amnesty International, 133 countries have abolished the death penalty. During 2006 25 countries, 91% in China, Iraq, Iran, Pakistan, Sudan, and the United States alone, executed 1,591 people compared to 2,148 in 2005. More than 3,861 people were sentenced to death in 55 countries. More than 20,000 prisoners are on death row across the world. See also U.S. Figures.

Death Penalty Outlawed (year)1
Albania (2000)
Andorra (1990)
Angola (1992)
Armenia (2003)
Australia (1984)
Austria (1950)
Azerbaijan (1998)
Belgium (1996)
Bermuda (1999)
Bhutan (2004)
Bosnia-Herzegovina (1997)
Bulgaria (1998)
Cambodia (1989)
Canada (1976)
Cape Verde (1981)
Colombia (1910)
Costa Rica (1877)
C?te d'Ivoire (2000)
Croatia (1990)
Cyprus (1983)
Czech Republic (1990)
Denmark (1933)
Djibouti (1995)
Dominican Republic (1966)
East Timor (1999)
Ecuador (1906)
Estonia (1998)
Finland (1949)
France (1981)
Georgia (1997)
Germany (1949)
Greece (1993)
Guinea-Bissau (1993)
Haiti (1987)
Honduras (1956)
Hungary (1990)
Iceland (1928)
Ireland (1990)
Italy (1947)
Kiribati (1979)
Liberia (2005)
Liechtenstein (1987)
Lithuania (1998)
Luxembourg (1979)
Macedonia (1991)
Malta (1971)
Marshall Islands (1986)
Mauritius (1995)
Mexico (2005)
Micronesia (1986)
Moldova (1995)
Monaco (1962)
Montenegro (2002)
Mozambique (1990)
Namibia (1990)
Nepal (1990)
Netherlands (1870)
New Zealand (1961)
Nicaragua (1979)
Niue (n.a.)
Norway (1905)
Palau (n.a.)
Panama (1903)
Paraguay (1992)
Poland (1997)
Portugal (1867)
Philippines (2006)
Romania (1989)
Samoa (2004)
San Marino (1848)
S?o Tom? and Pr?ncipe (1990)
Senegal (2004)
Serbia (2002)
Seychelles (1993)
Slovak Republic (1990)
Slovenia (1989)
Solomon Islands (1966)
South Africa (1995)
Spain (1978)
Sweden (1921)
Switzerland (1942)
Turkey (2002)
Turkmenistan (1999)
Tuvalu (1978)
Ukraine (1999)
United Kingdom (1973)
Uruguay (1907)
Vanuatu (1980)
Vatican City (1969)
Venezuela (1863)


Death Penalty Outlawed for Ordinary Crimes2 (year)
Argentina (1984)
Bolivia (1997)
Brazil (1979)
Chile (2001)
Cook Islands (n.a.)
El Salvador (1983)
Fiji (1979)
Israel (1954)
Latvia (1999)
Peru (1979)


De Facto Ban on Death Penalty3 (year)4
Algeria (1993)
Benin (1987)
Brunei Darussalam (1957)
Burkina Faso (1988)
Central African Republic (1981)
Congo (Republic) (1982)
Gambia (1981)
Grenada (1978)
Kenya (n.a.)
Madagascar (1958)
Maldives (1952)
Mali (1980)
Mauritania (1987)
Morocco (1993)
Myanmar (1993)
Nauru (1968)
Niger (1976)
Papua New Guinea (1950)
Russia (1999)
Sri Lanka (1976)
Suriname (1982)
Togo (n.a.)
Tonga (1982)
Tunisia (1990)


Death Penalty Permitted
Afghanistan
Antigua and Barbuda
Bahamas
Bahrain
Bangladesh
Barbados
Belarus
Belize
Botswana
Burundi
Cameroon
Chad
China (People's Republic)
Comoros
Congo (Democratic Republic)
Cuba
Dominica
Egypt
Equatorial Guinea
Eritrea
Ethiopia
Gabon
Ghana
Guatemala
Guinea
Guyana
India
Indonesia
Iran
Iraq
Jamaica
Japan
Jordan
Kazakhstan
Korea, North
Korea, South
Kuwait
Kyrgyzstan
Laos
Lebanon
Lesotho
Libya
Malawi
Malaysia
Mongolia
Nigeria
Oman
Pakistan
Palestinian Authority
Qatar
Rwanda
St. Kitts and Nevis
St. Lucia
St. Vincent and the Grenadines
Saudi Arabia
Sierra Leone
Singapore
Somalia
Sudan
Swaziland
Syria
Taiwan
Tajikistan
Tanzania
Thailand
Trinidad and Tobago
Uganda
United Arab Emirates
United States
Uzbekistan
Vietnam
Yemen
Zambia
Zimbabwe

Posted on: 2007/12/21 7:31
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Re: $1.5M makeover to begin at City Council Chambers
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Quote:

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A $1.5 million spend like this would be much more palatible if it didnt add directly to our individual property tax bills. At a time when JC has real trouble balancing it's budget, and with the debt crisis (no-one wants to buy Municipal bonds/debt anymore), all this means is that every dollar of JC overspend is likely to directly hit JC property owners pockets.

Mr Fulop - you work in the big bad world of Finance. Can you beat some sense into these council numbskulls?


Sorry, nug. Check the October 24 agenda - Fulop voted for the renovation. They all did.


In the world of Finance Oct 24th was an eternity ago. Don't care what Fulop voted back then - though he's well placed to understand what a credit crunch means for municipal finances going forward.

Cut the spending guys - no-one is buying munis and you're not going to get this kind of funding without raping your property owners again. We'll get raped on this, and in the next few years we're going to get raped on Abbott unless the City wakes up on financing.

Posted on: 2007/12/21 7:17
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Re: the most profound movie that will blow your mind
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This movie will make you think. Its about 2 hrs long but well
worth the time, check it out.

http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/


As someone who actually saw both planes hit the towers on 9/11, and I mean I was on Vesey St under the first plane when it hit the North Tower, and I was watching the South Tower from a Ferry to NJ when the second plane hit, I find these "truth about 9/11" intellectualists at best demented and seriously insulting the memory of those that died at the site, and at worst serving the agenda of those who attacked the towers.

When they start looking for holes in what happened on 9/11...yes there was total mayhem and confusion at the time, even at a government level. To then go back in hindsight and point to inconsistencies, and invent the crazy conspiracy theories just makes me sick. I can empathize with negative sentiments about the US's reaction to 9/11, but no - 9/11 was not any kind of US/Israel conspiracy despite the insinuations and crazy theories of the so-called 9/11 "truth" distortionists.

Their distortions are all about "why did this building fall the way?". "Our experts say it should have fallen that way". And why did Silverman say "pull it" referring to WTC-7? The distortionists say this meant "blow it up". On WTC-7, the rational explanation is given the mayhem at the time was to get people the eff outta there, cause the building was likely to fall, given the number of fire/police and other deaths that had already occured.

And the "why did the buildings fall this way" argument? There were no explosions after the planes hit. There was nothing to suggest the trade center was exploded from below...in fact my clear memory and TV coverage shows both WTC towers crumbled top-down, not base-up. So the US/Israeli planned an extremely complex and coordinated series of events that would involve hitting 2 towers at the same time with planes, and near-simultaneously detonating pre-prepared explosives at the top of both WTCs and at the bottom of WTC-7???

Honestly, if you accept the theories if the 9/11 truth distortionists you would have to accept a sequence of events and actions that noone would have been capable of coordinating, not even the US government.

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Re: $1.5M makeover to begin at City Council Chambers
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A $1.5 million spend like this would be much more palatible if it didnt add directly to our individual property tax bills. At a time when JC has real trouble balancing it's budget, and with the debt crisis (no-one wants to buy Municipal bonds/debt anymore), all this means is that every dollar of JC overspend is likely to directly hit JC property owners pockets.

Mr Fulop - you work in the big bad world of Finance. Can you beat some sense into these council numbskulls?

Posted on: 2007/12/20 7:06
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Re: Signs Signs, everywhere there's Signs
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http://www.destinationjerseycity.com/aboutorganization.php


So...this non-profit org got a $3.6million NJDOT grant, spent it on 500 signs and an website (works out about $7,200/sign), and they supposedly consulted the local residents? And the City Hall has a $1.5 million makeover in the same week that according to the City Clerk gives us "...a first class space to conduct public business"?

Somehow I can't get over the image of pigs feeding.

Posted on: 2007/12/20 6:54
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Re: Hudson County: 31% think pit bulls should be outlawed, 50% believe they are the most dangerous b
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PS:

If you extrapolate the 1.8% and 0.3% CDC numbers to Jersey City, it works out at over 80 dog bites/week, 14/week of which need medical treatment.

If the real JC numbers were this high, I don't think there'd be many other topics on this site.

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Re: Hudson County: 31% think pit bulls should be outlawed, 50% believe they are the most dangerous b
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Grovepath. READ THE REPORT. Let me make it easy for you.
Click here: http://www.cdc.gov/ncipc/duip/dog4.pdf

The figures you and the CDC throw around are based a TELEPHONE SURVEY. Not very scientific. No distinction was made between accidents (dog nipped my hand when grabbing a ball), versus real attacks. No independent verification. My point was the A&E stats are likely more reliable.

Posted on: 2007/12/18 18:03
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Re: Chief Tom Comey
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Great speech from Councilwoman Richardson.

Posted on: 2007/12/18 8:47
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Re: Hudson County: 31% think pit bulls should be outlawed, 50% believe they are the most dangerous breed
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trp3 wrote:
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1. maybe i'm just missing your point and construction of the "For" and "Against" list you made, but these two statements completely contradict each other. Is one of them true, or both of them wrong?

nugnfutz wrote:

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1. Public and press hysteria over dogs has created an unhealthly and unneccessary public fear of ALL dogs.


do you consider 5 million bites per year an "unnecessary public fear"? with such a high occurence, why would you trust ANYONE'S dog? with such high numbers, I would certainly be paranoid if I saw a dog approaching my 5 year old in a park.

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How many police carry dog treats?


oh no you dit' int'......

the day i see a cop with a bag of dog treats strapped to his belt is the day i lose all faith in law enforcement in the United States.

"HEY! Meyer! Don't forget your doggy treats! Yeah, they're being issued to all officers now. Make sure you feed a few dogs today. Oh yeah, and here's your bag of lollipops for the little boys and girls."

nugnfuts wrote:

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How many routinely stop day-to-day and pet local dogs on the street (which gives the dog their scent and marks them as a friend)?


who in their right mind would pet various dogs throughout the neighborhood while on patrol, knowing how potentially dangerous all of them are? not to mention, what good does that do? honestly? do the cops need to make it a priority to be in good standings with the neighborhoods' K-9's? this sounds totally absurd!

nugnfutz wrote:

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How many children without dogs are taught the "tree" or the "tortoise"?


WHAT

THE

HELL

is the "tree" or the "tortoise"??????????

nugnfutz wrote:

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How many parents let their kids give their scent to local dogs in their local park?


again.....5 MILLION bites a year.

nugnfutz wrote:

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How many parents know the right way to stop a dog attacking their child? (I've seen recent horror stories on TV of mothers using their arms and bodies as shields and getting mauled.)


enlighten me, my friend. how does a 30 or 40 something year old woman pry an 80 or 90 pound dog off of her child's neck, face, or arm? hmmmmm? what would be "the right way" of handling that situation? do they offer this class in college, because i don't recall this one being offered:

How to murder a dog that is mauling your child 101.

nugnfutz wrote:

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(Do you blame the SUV or the driver?)


if this is your "best comparison", then i guess i'll follow suit by saying this:

If it happens 5 million times a year, eventually you gotta start looking at the SUV.


First read the report on the stats you throw around. This was a telephone survey, without independent verification. Around 5600 people (56%) responded to the phone survey, with 92 adults and 94 children reporting dog bites based on the phone survey. This data was then normalized and extrapolated to the entire population. Factual that there were 5 million dog bites in 1994? Doubt it. The hospital stats are probably more reliable for comparison.

On the for-and-against on jaw strength, they are exactly that - two opposing points of view. My take is there is no difference in jaw strength of a pit versus say a German Shephard. The GS however hasn't typically been trained to fight and hasn't for example been trained to swing on a rope by jaw-power alone.

Regards public fear and what I consider irresponsible reporting, yes there is far too high a number of bites in the US. Even the 12 deaths or so is 12 too many. Scaremongering though creates more potential conflict, and in-turn creates the perfect circumstances for bites to occur. I'd much rather see parents (and non dog owners) feel comfortable with any contact with dogs, and to do that requires a certain confidence on how to deal with dogs other than a fear response. Similarly dog owners need to be better educated on how to control their dogs, and in-particular in how to recognise and avoid situations where their loving little bundle of fur bites the face off someone. The JJ report could have included some CDC recommendations such as:

Quote:

Preventing Dog Bites

Teach children basic safety around dogs and review regularly:

Do not approach an unfamiliar dog.
Do not run from a dog and scream.
Remain motionless (e.g., "be still like a tree") when approached by an unfamiliar dog.
If knocked over by a dog, roll into a ball and lie still (e.g., "be still like a log").
Do not play with a dog unless supervised by an adult.
Immediately report stray dogs or dogs displaying unusual behavior to an adult.
Avoid direct eye contact with a dog.
Do not disturb a dog who is sleeping, eating, or caring for puppies.
Do not pet a dog without allowing it to see and sniff you first.
If bitten, immediately report the bite to an adult.


How do you pry a dog off someone? You can break up a dog fight by grabbing the dogs back legs and pulling it away while circling. If it doesnt release its grip, use pepper spay, a trashcash lid or anything u can hit it hard on the head while keeping you separated from it. Umbrellas and fire extinguishers have also been known to work. Do they offer classes in this? No, but they should. No difference to giving people driving lessons and road safety classes imo.

Police and children avoiding peoples dogs because of 5 million bites/year? Think you have that the wrong way around. If the dog knows you and is introduced in a controlled way, it's much less likely to bite you. Your point illustrates the fear-mongering impact of the press. Police carrying dog treats absurd? Well, instead of shouting "stop or I'll shoot" to a dog in it's home protecting its territory, why not throw a treat first? Do the police need to be in good standing with local neighborhood K9s? Err yes - that'd be a great way to break down barriers between the police and community. Best way to get to know people is through their pets.

And on the SUV comparision - go look at the stats yourself.

Quote:

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In the United States during 2005, 1,451 children ages 14 years and younger died as occupants in motor vehicle crashes, and approximately 203,000 were injured. That?s an average of 4 deaths and 556 injuries each day (NHTSA 2006b).
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and
Each year, 800,000 Americans seek medical attention for dog bites; half of these are children. Of those injured, 386,000 require treatment in an emergency department and about a dozen die.



For the CDC factsheets, I don't see dog bites listed as a major cause under http://www.cdc.gov/ncipc/factsheets/children.htm

Posted on: 2007/12/18 8:33
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Re: Hudson County: 31% think pit bulls should be outlawed, 50% believe they are the most dangerous breed
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although I'm so completely sick of the freakin' dog talk on this website, i am routinely amazed by the blind ignorance of these psycho dog lovers. like, i don't know.......people that post using the name "CatsandDogs".........for example.

CatsandDogs wrote:

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Remember all, you are more likely to be bit by a mosquito carrying West Nile Virus than you are to get bit by a dog - pitbull or otherwise. Please stop the hysteria about pits for crying out loud.


sorry, but what a ridiculous statement.

i just checked the facts, and you couldn't be more incorrect.

there were, in 2006, 4269 cases of West Nile Virus in the USA last year.

now go to this website:

http://www.dogbitelaw.com/PAGES/statistics.html

better yet, don't bother, i'll give you a quick summary:

there are, on avg., just under 5 MILLION dog bites, per year, in the United States.

800,000 of which require medical attention, 368,000 of them need to be sent to emergency medical depts.

1,000 PER DAY are treated in Emergency Medical Rooms.

Quote: "Most of the victims who receive medical attention are children, half of whom are bitten in the face."

lovely.

the most common age for people being bit by dogs is 5 to 9 years old, and the numbers go down as the ages go up. on avg., only 26 attacks are fatal every year, but there sure are a hell of alot of young children walking around with scars on their faces or something worse, not to mention traumatized.

hell, google this kind of thing, there are lawyers all over the United States that specialize in dog bite cases. they make a living off of these repeating occurences.



Your right. Dog bites are one of the most common and serious causes of child injuries according to the CDC. Some people consider it an epidemic. As a dog owner I fully agree that problem needs tackling at every level.

Your also right on the comparison to mosquitos and West Nile. There's likely many more mosquito bites annually than dog bites, much less incidence of west nile versus A&E dog bite visits, but the comparison is fairly pointless. Entirely different problems.

So going back to the original question and the purpose behind it.

Should pit bulls be outlawed?

For:
- Pit bulls (and Rottweilers) respresent the 2 highest breeds that cause death in the USA according to the stats
- Pits are regularly trained to be "aggressive" for the purpose of 'sport" or as guard dogs.
- a bite from a Pit is likely to cause more serious injury than from most other breed because of the power in its jaws and the fact it's nearly impossible to break its grip during a bite.

Against
- No evidence that banning pits and similar breed reduces injury or deaths due to dog bites (from Canada and Britain)
- No evidence that Pits have stronger bite strength than comparable sized dogs, nor have they any "jaw-locking" mechanism other than through what is trained into them.
- Pits consistently score highly on breed temperament tests designed to test how well they deal with family and social situations.
- The bite statistics themselves are suspect since most people attribute every dog bite from an unknown type of dog to the Pit Bull, and there's no A&E record kept of cause of attack.

Most dog experts say that if you ban Pit Bulls, it will not tackle the real underlying causes of dog bites. I'd go a little futher and say the following:

1. Public and press hysteria over dogs has created an unhealthly and unneccessary public fear of ALL dogs. The best comparision to this would be the press creating a similar hysteria over SUVs and the relationship to injuries and deaths to children from road injuries involving SUVs. (Do you blame the SUV or the driver?)

2.Ban pits? What breeds are next? I'd bet the majority of the serious bite injuries are dogs that have been trained as guard dogs, or abused as fighting dogs. Do people think that banning pits solves this? Heck! An angry Jack Russell terrier can do near the same damage to a kid as a Pit for those people who know dogs.

3. Education, education, education. For example, the JCPD carry firearms, mace and all kinds of offensive weapons. They know they come into contact daily with local dogs. How many police carry dog treats? How many routinely stop day-to-day and pet local dogs on the street (which gives the dog their scent and marks them as a friend)? How many children without dogs are taught the "tree" or the "tortoise"? How many parents let their kids give their scent to local dogs in their local park? How many parents know the right way to stop a dog attacking their child? (I've seen recent horror stories on TV of mothers using their arms and bodies as shields and getting mauled.)

IMO the more people treat every dog with fear and as a potential attacker, the more self-fulfilling it becomes. Dogs sense fear and will react with fight or flight.

Enforcing existing city and state laws needs to happen. However, the biggest impact overall is likely down to education: educating children, parents, dog owners, police, and others on how to deal with dogs.

Posted on: 2007/12/17 9:32
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Re: Hudson County: 31% think pit bulls should be outlawed, 50% believe they are the most dangerous b
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Good point GP and possibly the right way to attack it. Still...gonna be a tough sell. And the state might have to underwrite some of the homeowner insurance.

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Re: Downtown JC on north side of the Holland Tunnel gets a new nick name by Hobokenites: Welcome to A-Ho
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rather be an a-ho than a hoe.

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Re: Hudson County: 31% think pit bulls should be outlawed, 50% believe they are the most dangerous breed
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"Pit bulls are unlikely to replace poodles, Yorkies and Labs in the hearts and hearths of Hudson County residents anytime soon," wrote NJCU political science professor Fran Moran, one of the poll's authors.


Ummm...no shit sherlock! And what's your scientific or social point worthy of research from an institute of higher learning that we couldnt have got from a sleazy tabloid, or a Cosmo poll?

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I guess your neighborhood doesn't have the same dog issue as ours - Heaps of pit-bulls with most (from what I've seen) without those registration tags on the dogs. When 'siht hits the fan' around Arlington Park regarding dogs, no-one wants to claim ownership. Its a bit like that pit-bull off leash/attack fiasco with the woman near H/park.
Whatever happen to that dog / woman - was there a court case, or did it simply get swept under the rug like most things?


The NJ law is set up to litigate the owner or destroy the dog. If your dog mauls someone and you got no assets...well tough on the dog and the victim. A high percent of dog owners don't even even pay their license fee of under $10 a year. Think they give a flying sh*t about liability insurance, which would likely cost $500+/year for a pit? Alternatively is NJ going to fill jails with dog owners without licenses that cant pay dog liability insurance?

I think they're need to be a major shift in state and federal policies to make any kind of dent in this issue. And the experience in other countries suggests that dollars spent publicising public awareness of dog bites, and changing attitudes to dog-fighting probably reaps higher dividends than legislating against breeds.

Posted on: 2007/12/14 3:08
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Re: WE NEED MORE COPS
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Not sure we need more cops, but we definitely need more "visibility" from our cops.

We have 800-1000 police on the JCPD force. Is 1 arrest a month per officer a good statistic? (Serious question, I don't know how this compares to other comparable cities). Some studies I've read suggest we're actually overstaffed in JC for the return we get.

Like other posters, I don't think we just don't have enough police visibility on the streets in JC. I posted elsewhere that Oct stats downtown were a huge improvement of previous months - and i think this was a JCPD reaction to the series on crime run by the Jersey Jounal.

Now - I'll predict a significant upswing for November, because I believe that the JCPD East have gone back to their bad old ways and are not patrolling the downtown streets as much as in Oct. Hope I'm proved wrong.

Posted on: 2007/12/10 6:20
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Re: Signs Signs, everywhere there's Signs
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Why doesn't it say dogsh*t?

Posted on: 2007/12/5 8:16
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Re: Police brass promote 34
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Grats to all those officers that got promotions. Honestly, the ones that got the promotions most likely deserve it. If the JCPD bosses have messed up...well their time will come, very soon, by way of an internal class action.

Posted on: 2007/11/23 3:32
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Re: B.S. Car impound and bad treatment.
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I don't think this is a cop issue - I think the overriding philosophy for the city, is if there are any cross-department questions, let the resident sort it out in court. Recently, our Mayor stated he is happy for our Parking enforcement to f**k up doing their jobs because our judges are honest and can straighten things out in court.

Me - I'd rather see a little more on-the-spot training and empowerment of City officials to act in the best interests of their employers - us JC residents.

Posted on: 2007/11/23 3:07
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Re: Where does the rent-a-cop money go?
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[quote]
BrightMoment wrote:

Yeah, well it's been 5 years since I last picked up a cue in open league competition, but I'm sure I could still kick YOR butt! Straight pool, call pocket only, all balls pocketed not called are spotted, 14 to 1 continuous till 144 points scored. Any table in Jersey City. Let me know when and where.

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Sweet...i totally suck at pool...and im sure u can kick my ass for $20-$100 bucks a game. Actually dude or dudette...let u off lightly...we can play for beers :)

Posted on: 2007/11/12 5:00
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Re: Their $140G to Healy Bought Them Nothing?
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My dog started breathing heavy in the house today, then squirted liquid poop outta his butt for a good 30 secs.

Posted on: 2007/11/11 7:05
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Re: Where does the rent-a-cop money go?
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BM - kick ur ass anywhere, anytime at 8-ball, 9-ball, straight, snooker, billiards...name ur poison. I'm not very good, but i got a nice stick :)

Oh ...and can you give me the short answer plz....fell asleep on the long one. Not worth my time. But thats ur Zzzzzzzz.

Posted on: 2007/11/11 6:55
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Re: Where does the rent-a-cop money go?
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Quote:

BrightMoment wrote:
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nugnfutz wrote:
Q.E.D.


Quod Ego Dic(k)o, "because I say so" or quo errat demonstrator, "where the demonstrator errs".

Figures.

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When I signed up to this website i agreed not to entered into personal flames with other people. And when I have, I believe I have had enough humility to apoligise when needed.

Think you've forgotton that BM. You just proved my assertions with your intolerance and total dismissal of anyone that doesn't share you views nor experience.
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QED = An abbreviation of the Latin phrase "quod erat demonstrandum". It literally translates as "which was to be demonstrated", and is a formal way of ending a mathematical, logical or physical proof. It's purpose is to alert the reader that the immediately previous statement, which naturally was arrived at by an unbroken chain of logic, was the original statement that we were trying to prove.

Posted on: 2007/11/11 4:09
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Re: Where does the rent-a-cop money go?
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Q.E.D.

Posted on: 2007/11/8 12:09
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Re: Where does the rent-a-cop money go?
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Trying to understand u Brightmoment....u lash back at anyone and everyone that has a serious question about policing in downtown JC. My question was a serious one without any agenda. What ur doing is showing your intolerance for any view not compatible with your own.

If you can drop the posturing, I may consider joining the DJCW group. As it stands...u guys need to start listening to people downtown and not slam people with valid concerns that may or may not put the police in a bad light.

At the moment you're appearing as an apoligist for the JCPD...and nobody outside the JCPD and City gov need that.

Posted on: 2007/11/8 3:05
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Where does the rent-a-cop money go?
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We see cops directing traffic downtown everywhere. How much do they get, how much does the City get, and how much lines the pockets of their bosses?

Posted on: 2007/11/7 4:53
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Re: Another cop attacked by pit bulls -- West District Police parking lot -- shot one dog twice
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No police officer should be subjected to this kind of attack. Ever. Are these feral wild dogs? Were these dogs released on police property with the intent to cause injury to the police?

Posted on: 2007/10/28 5:31
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