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I'll go back when they cave in and serve some guac and pico de gallo...and sour cream.

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I'll go back when they cave in and serve some guac and pico de gallo...and sour cream.


they should also smother everything in in generic pre-shredded white/orange cheese blend. that's my jam!

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In addition to the Cowboys sucking, I refer you to my TLDR post here: http://jclist.com/modules/newbb/viewt ... id=158431#forumpost158431

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I see this as being very simple issue. More smiles = more money...

Most posters enjoy the food at Taqueria. Some contrarians argue for a different definition of authenticity: Bergenline Avenue, etc.

Many posters either observed, noted, are turned off by, or stay away because of the attitude of some staff at Taqueria. The most frequent target of their frustation is the tall, curt Frenchman...

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The point: If Taqueria wants MORE of my money, they'll endeavor to become more pleasant business owners. It's not a public service their running; it's a business...



I live a block from them now. Will I go back? Maybe. But it's not clear to me why being idiosyncratic and principled - where the effect is that they sometimes appear priggish and rude - is a better business model than being friendly, warm, and accommodating.

PubliusIII: your story is awesome. I recommend you do as I do. Use your real name as your handle so you know there's nothing you'd write that you're unwilling to say straight up. It's liberating. Alexander Hamilton would be proud.

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Been here about a dozen times. Never had any complaints. I think the food is good. And you walk out full without spending much money. It's not a fancy restaurant. It's a similar concept to fast food. Walk up to the counter, order food, sit down and wait for it. And they even have the decency to bring it to your table. How nice is that?

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All this talk of Taqueria had me fiending for a fish taco this afternoon! Too bad they were closed today. Boo!

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it becomes hilarious when people take offense and react to it on an internerd message board

their menu notes are amusing, def unexpected and got a laugh out of it the first time I went there. after that, it's just fun to see who reacts and who doesn't (it's a "tell", you know?)


Sorry Abe, but I wouldn't call my comments "taking offense" at their smugness. They're entitled to behave any way they like, I was merely commenting that their schtick is getting old to me (and it would appear others as well).

AlanWright hit the nail on the head with his response. But something tells me they aren't running that shop to maximize profits. Like I said, live and let live, they can do whatever they want.

I'll let Abe and others worship at the altar of Tacqueria, the rest of us will spend money at places where our business is appreciated - I can tell from his responses (and i'm guessing from Tacqueria itself) that our business won't be missed! Everyone wins...


And on a side note: amusing != hilarious.

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"I was merely commenting that their schtick is getting old to me"

you were either destined to love it or hate it, it would seem.

"I'll let Abe and others worship at the altar of Tacqueria"

hiyo. I worship at the alter of value for dollar and quality product... service takes a back seat within reason, not that I have a problem with the service at this particular spot.

"And on a side note: amusing != hilarious."

really?

amusing: pleasantly entertaining or diverting:
hilarious: arousing great merriment; extremely funny

in any case, I think this summed it up perfectly:

"It's a similar concept to fast food. Walk up to the counter, order food, sit down and wait for it"

thanks for the diversion folks!

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Jesus, this place sounds like it sucks.


totally sucks

always makes me sick

staff doesn't bow down to everyone

they don't serve burritos like Bubby's

no guac

and there are "better" tacos in Union City, which I can also walk to from various points in Downtown JC.

don't go


Man, if you got stock in the place I'd sell.

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Spending time on an "internerd" message board, calling people who post on it "internerds", makes you the biggest "internerd" out there.

That goes for both the TacoTruck dude and Abe.

If you're as above it all as you try to project, why the need to respond? Or the need to eject paying customers?

If you care enough to sign on and respond to tell everybody how much you don't care about what they think, you're probably not telling the truth.

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Watch out Mr. Froman. With all of our references to 80's pop culture, people are going to think that Abe Froman works for us.

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Dear Taqueria,
You know what you all should do? You should take to go orders from JCList threads.
I would like 2 pork tostadas and 1 fish taco with a lime wedge inside. For pickup sometime Thursday night.
Thanks

But seriously, the pork tostada could be the best single food item in downtown JC.

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publius,
based upon your story and postings of other customers on jc list and other restaurant boards, readers get the impression that the owners of taqueria are pathologically thin-skinned control freaks who can't take constructive criticism -- if that's the case, seriously, what are they doing in the service industry?

what bothers me more, though, with headlines of swine flu swirling in the news, is that according to your original post on this thread, they were still serving food while the bathroom was inoperable, and customers/workers unable to use the facilities to wash hands. isn't this some sort of restaurant health code violation?

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I had the pork tostada for lunch today.

Yumm!

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Well, NJLIST, to be fair, the incident occurred about two years ago, long before swine flu was in the news. And I not a germa phobe- don't use antibacterial soap, wipes, etc. Just common sense that after being in the subway, PATH, FAO Swartrz, the MET etc for like 10 hours, one needs to wash hands before eating tacos.

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PubliusIII wrote:

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Just common sense that after being in the subway, PATH, FAO Swartrz, the MET etc for like 10 hours, one needs to wash hands before eating tacos.


Apparently it was not common sense on your trip to Flaco's Tacos.

You should have made the classic argument that, for once, was true: it's about the children. For the sake of the children! For the health of the children! Swine fluuuuuuuuuu!

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Considering that I eat there on a weekly basis, I figure I should weigh in. Yes, they're very to the point. This may offend you if you're the type of person that assumes you will be treated like royalty and have every inane request of yours heeded for your very specific order when you dine out. They have a very simple menu from which you pick your items. Doing things this way allows them to be very efficient at serving you quickly. It works. They do it this way intentionally. They have a quiet sense of humor about it because they realize it will piss off difficult customers.

Understand that it is a taco truck that you can sit in. Enjoy the food.

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I'm pretty low maintenance and don't expect much in the way of service from a Taqueria. I can get with direct. I can't get with eye-rolling snideness.

More over-rated tacos for the rest of you.

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I'm not joking. I'm in there once a week. Outside of the normal to-the-point order taking and people making faces upon hearing the table rules, I don't know where this whole "horrible horrible service" argument comes from. I don't see anyone sighing and moping as they slowly attend to you. Usually the person at the counter is trying to take your order quickly so they can get to the nine people behind you. Apparently that's a hipster attitude. Sorry they don't give you an introduction and make sure there's not too much onion on your taco. Maybe everyone should bring in their own bag of Kraft taco cheese.

Also, "Oh, wow. They treat me like a dick when I order a taco" is the funniest thing I've read on here. If that isn't blown up and on the wall next time I eat in there I'm gonna be pissed.

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I guess I got lucky, because I went there once and the two women working there were fine. What's that shitty burrito place in Hoboken - on Washington between 1st and 2nd? They were always really rude.

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Also, "Oh, wow. They treat me like a dick when I order a taco" is the funniest thing I've read on here. If that isn't blown up and on the wall next time I eat in there I'm gonna be pissed.


I guess you missed the point. I don't ask for weird sh!t on my taco, I don't complain or try to customize my order and yeah, the food's fine. I just don't need the attitude - period.

Take my order, take my money, give me my food and don't be a sh!thead - is that too much to ask? I guess they just have a slightly different take on things - c'est la vie.

Like I said in another post, everyone wins: I keep my money, they keep their tacos, and you my friend have one less person in line to contend with...

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How could I forget Taqueria? Seriously.

I lived in Tucson, AZ for two years (before coming back to NJ) and Taqueria's carnitas tacos are much like the ones I would buy from the taco trucks or taquerias down there. Always served with lots of chopped onion, cilantro, and lime; I never remember seeing sour cream or guac. That is not the style the Mexican folks were into down there, anyway. I grew to really love those yummy pork tacos (in addition to the Sonoran hotdogs - total guilty pleasure), so I was so happy to find them in JC, along with tasty tamales and sopes I've also sampled at Taqueria.

It's a no-frills place, so I guess I never stressed about service. Seems pretty standard for a counter-ordering set-up. + BYOB!

Taqueria is the only show in town (hence the name, which would require a second noun in the SW), for what they do. Love it or leave it.

P.S. They also accommodated a huge pick-up order for an election night party last November. Belated thanks Taqueria!

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That's what I don't understand. All I see is that transaction as described. People give money, they get tacos. What attitude? Do they seem distracted when dealing with you? It's probably because there's one person handling both lines. I'm sorry, but beyond a somewhat curt (with reason) waitstaff I don't see why their efficiency is interpreted as an attitude. You have good food within 10-15 minutes on a busy night.

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Slyng I agree 100%. It's not a war crime, but it's enough to get me to take my business elsewhere.

If others haven't gotten the same treatment, maybe they wear the "right" glasses or t-shirts or facial hair configurations. Or maybe they just have a different threshold for what constitutes apathy versus what constitutes attitude.

Like I said, apathy I could take, attitude not so much. I'm even fond of a certain degree of surly (see: White Star, White Mana, Flamingo, etc.).

I agree, it's absurd that such a small transaction could allow for the exhibition of any attitude whatsoever. Which makes it all the more ridiculous that Moby-dude manages to make it happen. Every time I went in before I gave up. It's almost a talent.

At least the soup nazi's rudeness was funny.

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At least the soup nazi's rudeness was funny.


Hey, This is funny to me, too.

The part that I don't understand is why you continue to go there. If you don't like Taqueria you can walk to Bubbies or to the place on lower Newark (forgotten the name).

Problem solved!

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Oh don't worry, I don't. Went all of twice, got the same treatment both times. Haven't been back in easily 3 years if not more.

If I'm actually paying somebody for food, they are not, in fact, doing me a favor by taking my order and giving that food to me.

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joeauxiliary,
"quiet sense of humor" isn't exactly how i'd describe owners kicking out a customer (who had apparently already paid with his credit card), along with his kids, simply because the customer had previously posted his experience about a restaurant on a community forum.
practically any other eating establishment who gets less than a glowing commentary on jclist will have a reasoned discussion offering up their side. and recall, i think, the iron monkey going out of their way to apologize for the glitches in their new delivery service and offering to make it up to their customers.
taqueria's reponse is rather, shall we say, a bit obsessive, thin-skinned, and so not cool. . . so to pretend they are somehow bemused laidback hipsters who are above is all isn't really on the mark. more like insecure webnerds hyper about any less than positive postings.
and publius's story seems one of many offered up on the web about this establishment.
as for whether the hand-washing incident occurred recently or year ago, it's still sounds gross that workers and customers wouldn't have access to a bathroom to wash up. just my humble opinion. . .

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I will give Taqueria one more shot tomorrow night and here is how I will do it:

1. Put some Death Cab on my iPod

2. Wear a ratty t-shirt with some catchy slogan or phrase from the 80's.

3. Buy a pair of dark rimmed glasses.

4. Talk about how ironic everything is in that creepy hipster kinda way.

5. Snicker at the house "rules" about burrito size, no sour cream and lack of guac, and then make fun of anyone who dares criticize said "rules".

6. Sport some skinny jeans with a wallet chain.

7. Grow a scraggly beard.

8. Demand orange cheese.

9. Wash my hands before I eat the food, then wash them again after I finish.

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Replace Death Cab with Quiet Riot and you've got it!

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"quiet sense of humor" isn't exactly how i'd describe owners kicking out a customer (who had apparently already paid with his credit card), along with his kids, simply because the customer had previously posted his experience about a restaurant on a community forum.
practically any other eating establishment who gets less than a glowing commentary on jclist will have a reasoned discussion offering up their side. and recall, i think, the iron monkey going out of their way to apologize for the glitches in their new delivery service and offering to make it up to their customers.
taqueria's reponse is rather, shall we say, a bit obsessive, thin-skinned, and so not cool. . . so to pretend they are somehow bemused laidback hipsters who are above is all isn't really on the mark. more like insecure webnerds hyper about any less than positive postings.
and publius's story seems one of many offered up on the web about this establishment.
as for whether the hand-washing incident occurred recently or year ago, it's still sounds gross that workers and customers wouldn't have access to a bathroom to wash up. just my humble opinion. . .


I'd say the fact that the owner specifically remembered the incident might mean it was a bit more obtrusive than the poster here made it seem. Maybe the owner was personally offended that a regular of his would go on a forum and publicly bitch about his restaurant because he was inconvenienced one time.

I think you all just hate affluent hipsters and are targeting this animosity towards the fine folks at Taqueria because of their manner and style of dress. For shame. Also, you should probably stay out of the downtown area. It's only going to get worse for you.

Also, hipsters don't listen to Quiet Riot unless they're doing so to be ironic-- they wouldn't actually enjoy such a thing. They just wear the t-shirts. Again, the irony of it all.

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LOL I live right across the street from the place and I am not going anywhere. Just making an observation that birds of a feather... Also, isn't "affluent" and "hipster" used together a little cliche? All the true hipsters I know are far from affluent.

So much for broadening ones cultural horizons.

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