Would it really be worth it for a developer to give away essentially all of his condos "at below-market rates".

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"The Shore Club (580 Washington Blvd.), a luxury condominium crown atop the mostly-rental 600-acre Newport development, is a multi-staged project that has already drawn intense interest from potential buyers. Since opening its sales office in September, 211 of the 214 available units have already sold - many of them for more than half a million dollars. What's perhaps surprising is that LeFrak was able to move these high-priced condominiums without bothering to advertise them. "

I think saying they were "sold" is a little bit misleading. More like, "handed out to family, friends and assorted Jersey City politicians at below-market rates" is a bit more accurate.

"The Shore Club (580 Washington Blvd.), a luxury condominium crown atop the mostly-rental 600-acre Newport development, is a multi-staged project that has already drawn intense interest from potential buyers. Since opening its sales office in September, 211 of the 214 available units have already sold - many of them for more than half a million dollars. What's perhaps surprising is that LeFrak was able to move these high-priced condominiums without bothering to advertise them. "

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Jeebus wrote:

Very negative article, almost made me want to move!

I wonder if cheap meth is creating a 1990s crack-like wave of crime. That, unlike gentrification, seems at least plausible.

That article was "negative", cause it stated the facts of what are happening downtown. The statements, interviews are not anecdotal passing in the wind, but serious concerns of those of us involved with the neighborhood Watch groups.

Steve Fulop has stated on his site, for public release and I've been at the mtgs. where we looked at comps for all 6 Zones that make up the East District Command,together with Captain McDonough and them's numbers are all up in the 3 Zones downtown where most of us live.

Jon Miller of the Times, worked on that piece several months, interviewing numerous persons downtown who had been either on the "incident reports" of the East District Command or brought to his attention by the Jersey City Neighborhood Watch, of which I am a member.

If you want to change the reality of that "Very negative article..." come to the Jersey City Guardian Angels public mtg. next wk on March 16th, or better yet come to the Monday, March 13th Mtg. of the Jersey City Neighborhood Watch at Grace Church Van Vorst , from 7 till 9PM. Enter by the red doors to the gym on Erie between 2nd and 3rd.

Look forward to makin' you part of the solution!

PS: If you saw the Frontline doc on Channel 13 several wks. ago (still avail in Digital "On Demand"), you would know that cheap meth hasn't hit in the Northeast yet to become the systemic problem it is in the Northwest, Midwest, Southwest and South. That don't mean it ain't comin here, though.

steveikin wrote:
I don't suppose you happen to know of an on-line version of said article?

elgoodo wrote:
I find that really hard to believe given Tris' well documented feelings on the 111 debacle. I'll have to pick up a copy to draw my own conclusions.

I know he does some "writing for hire" assignments but I would assume if it were strictly that (say, a brochure for a condo development), he wouldn't put his name on it as if it reflected his own opinions. And in a neighborhood magazine, where 50 percent of the people reading it are likely to know of him in some capacity.

elgoodo wrote:

I find that really hard to believe given Tris' well documented feelings on the 111 debacle. I'll have to pick up a copy to draw my own conclusions.

I know he does some "writing for hire" assignments but I would assume if it were strictly that (say, a brochure for a condo development), he wouldn't put his name on it as if it reflected his own opinions. And in a neighborhood magazine, where 50 percent of the people reading it are likely to know of him in some capacity.

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MCA wrote:
I miss the good old days when Tris McCall used to write reams about who he was going to vote for... [/wishful thinking]

Tris is too busy writing big sloppy wet blow job pieces about all of the new development in downtown Jersey City. You can find his piece in the new free "Neighborhood Guide" found at various businesses throughout downtown.

If I sound sarcastic, it's because Tris as always portrayed himself to be on the sceptical side of happenings in Jersey City; the voice of reason if you wish to call it that.

In the piece that I am referring to, however, it seems that he very well might have simply gotten "blurbs" from the various sales and marketing departments of the developers and simply tied them together. Don't get me wrong, as a property owner in Jersey City, I'm pretty excited about the renaissance of our fair city, but after reading his article, I could only imagine the developers finding themselves leaning back, wiping themselves off and needing a cigarette.

PHResident wrote:

Tris is too busy writing big sloppy wet blow job pieces about all of the new development in downtown Jersey City. You can find his piece in the new free "Neighborhood Guide" found at various businesses throughout downtown.

MCA wrote:
I miss the good old days when Tris McCall used to write reams about who he was going to vote for... [/wishful thinking]

Officer_Mac wrote:
I like that part about getting involved and becoming part of the solution. Well put!

Jeebus wrote:

Very negative article, almost made me want to move!

I wonder if cheap meth is creating a 1990s crack-like wave of crime. That, unlike gentrification, seems at least plausible.

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MrGrieves wrote:

Not that anyone gives a hoot, but here?s my theory on this whole brouhaha. I find it hard to believe that crime has increased substantially downtown over the past 10+ years? it?s simply getting more attention because of the demographic change. Educated and wealthy persons are more likely to complain and be influential enough to have their complaints heard by government officials and the media. Just a fact of life. The demographic shift downtown has been dramatic. You have an area populated by ?haves? and ?have-nots.? This in itself is part of the issue and there?s no way crime will be substantially reduced until most of the ?have-nots? are forced to move. Or we enact a police state. I don?t believe this is any different than the situation in Hoboken 20+ years ago.

Sorry, but statistics suggest that crime is in fact on the rise, at least in the last couple of years. Also, I'm not sure what you're trying to suggest by "forced to move" or whether you're in favor of such a thing, but it's not going to happen. Jersey City is not a square mile city like Hoboken. It's never going to be all upscale.

MCA wrote:
I miss the good old days when Tris McCall used to write reams about who he was going to vote for, and I usually ended up agreeing with him.

If anyone knows the candidates running in April, maybe you could convince them to post here with their qualifications and campaign issues. [/wishful thinking]

MCA wrote:
I miss the good old days when Tris McCall used to write reams about who he was going to vote for, and I usually ended up agreeing with him.

bdlaw wrote:
I was *mostly* kidding. I'm dead serious, though, about it being difficult to get hold of clearcut information about candidates that isn't attack literature sent by the opponent.

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bdlaw wrote:
Or, do you just say to hell with it and vote the incumbants out no matter who they are?

I hope you're kidding. I hate when people take their cynicism to this level and are dead serious about it.

Politics can give one reason to be cynical - certainly - but this kind of knee-jerk ill-informed voter apathy-cum-cruelty really makes me ill.

bdlaw wrote:
But, where do you get information about the candidates? If JC is anything like the town I'm in now (Lyndhurst), you pretty much only get attack ads in the mail.

bdlaw wrote:
Or, do you just say to hell with it and vote the incumbants out no matter who they are?

Nuada wrote:
P.S. Indeed voting sometimes requires holding one's nose as one pulls the lever. No question about that.

Damian wrote:

WE NEED TO TAKE ACTION TOO!!!!!. If there is a mugging, noise complaints, trash that is unacceptable just keep on calling, call city hall, call the police, call your councelman/woman, call the ABC. The more we make ourselves a pain in the a!! for the city the more they have to listen. It may sound redundant but all our voices will translate into votes come election time. That will get people to listen.

Don't forget, this is "OUR CITY" and we should take that attitude. Unacceptable behaviour will not be tolerated.

Works in places like Hoboken and should work here.