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‘It’s a miracle’ children inside Jewish school next door to deadly Jersey City shooting were unharmed, rabbi says

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Wow people were wondering about the car service murder connection…

A chance encounter with Jersey City shooters left a hardworking cab driver dead, friends say


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JERSEY CITY, New Jersey (WABC) -- Friday morning, the FBI released new photos of the suspect's van in the Jersey City shooting.

They say it belonged to David Aderson, 47, one of the gunmen. The FBI wants to find the vehicle

It's a white 2001 Ford van with license plate number B40JSD. If you find it, you are asked to call 973-792-7518.

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The incident started with the fatal shooting of a police officer at a cemetery before the two assailants, a man and a woman who were suspects in a homicide, holed up in the market, engaging police in a lengthy gun battle.

The shooters also killed Moshe Deutsch, 24; Miguel Douglas, 49; and Joe Seals, a Jersey City police detective. The shooters, identified as David Anderson and Francine Graham, were found dead in the store.

Now the Jewish community of Jersey City, and their friends and family in New York, are reeling and wondering what comes next.

Many had moved from Brooklyn to escape the borough’s high prices and had found a welcoming new home. It wasn’t a danger zone, they said. They got along with their neighbors and did not experience the anti-Semitic vandalism, harassment and assaults that have taken place recently in Brooklyn’s Hasidic neighborhoods.

“There have never been any attacks or incidents with the Jews who lived there,” said Rabbi Avi Schnall, the New Jersey director for Agudath Israel of America, an Orthodox organization. Schnall has worked with Jews and other local leaders in Greenville on building bridges with the neighborhood’s communities.

Schnall drew a link between Tuesday’s shooting and the killings at synagogues in Poway, California, in April, and in Pittsburgh a little more than a year ago.

“It’s beyond tragic,” Schnall said. “It’s frightening. What’s more frightening is this is not a local issue. This is taking place in three places throughout the country in the past year, that people are being gunned down.”

Officials say it remains unclear whether the attack was motivated by anti-Semitism. Jersey City Mayor Steven Fulop tweeted Wednesday morning that “it has now become clear from the cameras that these two individuals targeted the Kosher grocery location.” But officials at a news conference later in the day repeatedly stressed that they could not definitively say what motivated the shooters.

“We know there is significant speculation about the shooters’ motive,” said New Jersey Attorney General Gubrir Grewal. “We are not in the position at this time to say definitively why the suspect decided to stop in front of the supermarket and begin firing immediately.”

Less than a day after the shooting, JC Kosher is already rebuilding.

On Wednesday, a plywood frame stood in front of the store entrance near a truck carrying what looked like drywall. Men from a company called Gold Star Restoration were hammering away. Inside, boxes of children’s candy, cereal and croutons lined the shelves. A group of Orthodox men were carrying a shiny new door to the building. Construction paused only for a prayer service at the adjacent synagogue, K’hal Adas Greenville, with New Jersey Gov. Chris Murphy in attendance.

The grocery store is on Martin Luther King Drive, one of the neighborhood’s central thoroughfares. Down the street is a Pentecostal church, a mosque and a string of businesses. The surrounding blocks are full of row houses in a rainbow of colors along with some empty lots. Broken bottles and litter line the streets.
https://www.jta.org/2019/12/11/united- ... errorized-their-community
Jersey City residents say the area has been gentrifying, with a boom in new construction in the past few years. Douglas Harmon, 43, a lifetime Greenville resident and local building contractor, said most of the new arrivals are Jewish families.


I'm not sure where you got the 1st paragraph or if it's your own words but the shooters did not "hole up" in the kosher store. They went in guns firing. It's pretty well substantiated that their target was the people in the store.

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ALso murdered was Mindy Ferencz, 31, who owned the supermarket with her husband. Moshe Deutsch was her cousin visiting from Brooklyn.

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The incident started with the fatal shooting of a police officer at a cemetery before the two assailants, a man and a woman who were suspects in a homicide, holed up in the market, engaging police in a lengthy gun battle.

The shooters also killed Moshe Deutsch, 24; Miguel Douglas, 49; and Joe Seals, a Jersey City police detective. The shooters, identified as David Anderson and Francine Graham, were found dead in the store.

Now the Jewish community of Jersey City, and their friends and family in New York, are reeling and wondering what comes next.

Many had moved from Brooklyn to escape the borough’s high prices and had found a welcoming new home. It wasn’t a danger zone, they said. They got along with their neighbors and did not experience the anti-Semitic vandalism, harassment and assaults that have taken place recently in Brooklyn’s Hasidic neighborhoods.

“There have never been any attacks or incidents with the Jews who lived there,” said Rabbi Avi Schnall, the New Jersey director for Agudath Israel of America, an Orthodox organization. Schnall has worked with Jews and other local leaders in Greenville on building bridges with the neighborhood’s communities.

Schnall drew a link between Tuesday’s shooting and the killings at synagogues in Poway, California, in April, and in Pittsburgh a little more than a year ago.

“It’s beyond tragic,” Schnall said. “It’s frightening. What’s more frightening is this is not a local issue. This is taking place in three places throughout the country in the past year, that people are being gunned down.”

Officials say it remains unclear whether the attack was motivated by anti-Semitism. Jersey City Mayor Steven Fulop tweeted Wednesday morning that “it has now become clear from the cameras that these two individuals targeted the Kosher grocery location.” But officials at a news conference later in the day repeatedly stressed that they could not definitively say what motivated the shooters.

“We know there is significant speculation about the shooters’ motive,” said New Jersey Attorney General Gubrir Grewal. “We are not in the position at this time to say definitively why the suspect decided to stop in front of the supermarket and begin firing immediately.”

Less than a day after the shooting, JC Kosher is already rebuilding.

On Wednesday, a plywood frame stood in front of the store entrance near a truck carrying what looked like drywall. Men from a company called Gold Star Restoration were hammering away. Inside, boxes of children’s candy, cereal and croutons lined the shelves. A group of Orthodox men were carrying a shiny new door to the building. Construction paused only for a prayer service at the adjacent synagogue, K’hal Adas Greenville, with New Jersey Gov. Chris Murphy in attendance.

The grocery store is on Martin Luther King Drive, one of the neighborhood’s central thoroughfares. Down the street is a Pentecostal church, a mosque and a string of businesses. The surrounding blocks are full of row houses in a rainbow of colors along with some empty lots. Broken bottles and litter line the streets.
https://www.jta.org/2019/12/11/united- ... errorized-their-community
Jersey City residents say the area has been gentrifying, with a boom in new construction in the past few years. Douglas Harmon, 43, a lifetime Greenville resident and local building contractor, said most of the new arrivals are Jewish families.

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I watched a CBS news video of a press conference. The explanation given was (paraphrase) the perpetrators stopped the vehicle in front of the kosher market, got out with weapons in hand, and started shooting at/into the target, "bypassing other targets" such as people on the street and neighboring buildings. Did they look up the market ahead of time and it was the specific destination, or did they cruise the street looking at target options and decided on that one? It's a tragedy regardless, but these are different definitions of "they targeted the location".


The guy was from JC he would of known it was there with out looking it up. He was a Black Isrealite, they believe Black people are the original Jews.

I'm curious if the first homicide in Bayonne that they are believed to be connected to was a random attack or targeted?

https://nypost.com/2019/12/11/jersey-c ... in-murder-of-uber-driver/

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Why so vague? Where do they live? Work?


I searched both names and his last address was listed as Astor Place in JC and the woman's was in Elizabeth.

I also looked up the shooters NJ criminal record, his prior gun possession charge originally in the "complaint" listed he had a "machine gun" but was later charged with possession of a weapon "Air/Spring". So I'm not sure if that means when he was first arrested they thought he had a machine gun but it turned out to be a BB Gun? He also had a PCP charge.

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Chilling video shows Jersey City shooters charge into kosher market with guns drawn
Updated 1:52 PM;Today 1:51 PM

https://www.nj.com/hudson/2019/12/vide ... rket-with-guns-drawn.html

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I watched a CBS news video of a press conference. The explanation given was (paraphrase) the perpetrators stopped the vehicle in front of the kosher market, got out with weapons in hand, and started shooting at/into the target, "bypassing other targets" such as people on the street and neighboring buildings. Did they look up the market ahead of time and it was the specific destination, or did they cruise the street looking at target options and decided on that one? It's a tragedy regardless, but these are different definitions of "they targeted the location".

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Based on our initial investigation (which is ongoing) we now believe the active shooters targeted the location they attacked. Due to an excess of caution the community may see additional police resources in the days/weeks ahead. We have no indication there are any further threats

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It would be good to know which part of "the community" would see additional resources. All Jews? All synagogues?

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Why so vague? Where do they live? Work?

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Sources said David Anderson, who committed the deadly Tuesday attack with a woman identified as Francine Graham, was a one-time follower of the Black Hebrew Israelite movement and made the hateful postings on his social media page.


here is nj.com piece

Jersey City shooting: Man, woman reportedly ID’d as attackers in fatal gun battle at kosher market
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https://www.nj.com/hudson/2019/12/jers ... tle-at-kosher-market.html

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Sources said David Anderson, who committed the deadly Tuesday attack with a woman identified as Francine Graham, was a one-time follower of the Black Hebrew Israelite movement and made the hateful postings on his social media page.

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"A suspect involved in a prolonged firefight in Jersey City, N.J., that left six people dead, including one police officer, had published anti-Semitic and anti-police posts online and investigators believe the attack was motivated by those sentiments, a law enforcement official familiar with the case said on Wednesday."

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Does Fulop have any direct knowledge that the store was targeted? If he does he has not revealed what he knows.


This is from today's press conference

Jersey City mayor says video shows kosher market was targeted in shooting, references ‘hate and anti-Semitism’

Updated 8:40 AM;Today 8:26 AM
By Jeff Goldman | NJ Advance Media for NJ.com

Jersey City Mayor Steven Fulop said Wednesday that surveillance video of the violent gun battle that left six dead including two suspects shows the Kosher grocery store was targeted in the city’s burgeoning Jewish community.

“Last night after extensive review of our (closed-circuit television system) it has now become clear from the cameras that these two individuals targeted the Kosher grocery location on (Martin Luther King Drive - the 2 JCPD officers that were on a foot post one block away immediately responded/engaged and prevented the perpetrators from leaving that location and harming any further civilians,” the mayor wrote in the first of five tweets he sent early Wednesday.

https://www.nj.com/hudson/2019/12/jers ... te-and-anti-semitism.html

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Does Fulop have any direct knowledge that the store was targeted? If he does he has not revealed what he knows.

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This carnage was bad enough.... imagine what would have happened if Officer Seals had not come across the van by chance.

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Based on our initial investigation (which is ongoing) we now believe the active shooters targeted the location they attacked. Due to an excess of caution the community may see additional police resources in the days/weeks ahead. We have no indication there are any further threats

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Posted on Twitter:

"Condolences to the families of those who were killed today in the Kosher grocery store in Jersey City. Rabbi Shlome Friedman
Mrs Chava Gold and Mrs Leah Mindel Ferentz. May their families be comforted among the mourners of Zion and may they know no more sorrow."

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How the Jersey City shooting unfolded

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By Alex Napoliello | NJ Advance Media for NJ.com

It started with a heroic effort from a 15-year Jersey City police detective trying to arrest suspects in a murder investigation. It ended four hours later with six people dead following a “rapid and continuous” police standoff, officials said.

Detective Joseph Seals, a member of the Jersey City Cease Fire Unit, approached a vehicle near the Bayview Cemetery on Garfield Avenue that was reportedly linked to a homicide in Bayonne on Saturday night, NBC New York reported.
The news outlet said a suspect exited the vehicle and fatally shot Seals before driving away. It’s unclear what time this incident occurred.

Authorities chased the vehicle about a mile through the streets of Jersey City, ending at a Kosher supermarket at 223 Martin Luther King Drive.

https://www.nj.com/hudson/2019/12/how- ... ty-shooting-unfolded.html

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It's at the top of Drudge.

6 DEAD IN NJ KOSHER SUPERMARKET
'LIKE A WARZONE'
COP KILLED
'AMBUSH'

This is from a dailymail story:

An unnamed federal law enforcement source told Fox News that two juvenile suspects - one male and one female - were shot and killed in a stand-off with police, along with three other people who were inside the bodega. A third suspect, described by the source as a black male wearing all black, is still at large.

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RIP Detective Joseph Seals father of 5

2 other officers released from hospital

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Reports of ambush after drug bust went bad... Shooting started over at the cemetery. Looks like the perps fled into the bodega.


Cops on scanner say school still on lock-down.

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UPDATE: Jersey City officials said public schools will begin dismissing students at 4:15 p.m.

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